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Weiner Wrap, with Barbara Walters

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WASHINGTON – The elite D.C. media, new media, talking heads, gleeful Republicans, and spineless Democrats all weighed in… and then New Yorkers had their say, including Barbara Walters.

According to the one-day poll, conducted Wednesday, just 33 percent of voters in New York’s Ninth Congressional District think Weiner should resign from the House, while 56 percent do not think he should resign. – Poll: Weiner’s Constituents Don’t Think He Should Resign

Rep. Weiner is not resigning, in spite of the chattering class calling for it.

An ethics investigation may reveal more, though I doubt it because they take too long and even Charlie Rangel survived his, but there’s no reason to jump unless there is something indictable. Again, see David Vitter. The worst is over for Mr. Weiner, regardless of what may ensue from the Democratic establishment.

If John F. Kennedy had been held to today’s standards he would never have been president, with his White House behavior something the press would have ravaged him over today, perhaps rightly so:

Since they had not lived together before marrying, Jackie was unprepared for what she called Jack’s “violent” independence — by which she meant not just his habit of going off with his male friends but, more important, his thinly disguised promiscuity. … “I don’t think there are any men who are faithful to their wives. Men are such a combination of good and evil.” … Jackie’s unhappiness was no inducement to Jack to restrain himself. In the summer of 1956, while she was int he late stages of a pregnancy that ended in a miscarriage, Jack went on a yachting trip with George Smathers in the Mediterranean, where he enjoyed “a bacchanal, with several young women getting on and off the boat at its ports of call.” … In 1958, when younger brother Ted got married, Jack was caught on tape whispering to him “that being married didn’t really mean that you had to be faithful to your wife.” – An Unfinished Life, by Robert Dallek (pgs. 194-195)

The bad news is Rep. Weiner’s campaign to keep his job and weather his stupidity isn’t going to be easy.

The good news about the revelatory photos is, congratulations, Tony, and Barbara Walters agrees.

Walters acknowledged that she had seen the picture “days ago.” As the women discussed the authenticity of the picture, Elisabeth Hasselbeck offered a theory: If Weiner hasn’t denied it was his, then it must be flattering.

“It is,” quipped Walters.

… “What he did was unfathomable,” she added. “I just heard a statistic which is 56% of his constituents want him to remain in office. And he’s been, if you’ve followed him, a very effective, outspoken, sometimes angry, certainly passionate congressman … the personal stuff is between him and his wife.”

Classic statement on Weiner from Democratic grand dame Diane Feinstein, “I just view it with great surprise and dismay. That’s all I can say.”

Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, Sen. Patty Murray, said “of course” Weiner’s actions make it tough for Dems in ’12. That’s malarkey, especially in the Senate, where Dems were in trouble long before Weiner’s wiener went wide.

Thanks to Rep. Paul Ryan’s Medicare-ending budget scheme, the House could be in play for Democrats.

Pres. Obama’s problems are economic not moral, with any trouble he’s getting from Democrats who think he’s compromise and capitulated of his own making.

We can now also put to sleep any notion that Breitbart was going to uphold his words on the “Today” show, where he said he’d hold the photo as insurance in case Weiner went after him.

In fact, two nights ago, Andrew Breitbart went out drinking with Anthony and several others — and according to Anthony, showed the picture to numerous people, even leaving his laptop computer unattended with the picture on the screen for long periods of time. One of those people was right wing flamethrower Ann Coulter. Here’s Anthony’s photo of Coulter reacting to the picture; notice that his computer is apparently there, but Breitbart is nowhere to be seen. – Charles Johnson

Johnson goes on to allege Breitbart handed his phone around the studio. As I tweeted yesterday, did Breitbart actually believe that talk radio shock jocks wouldn’t leak the photo?

Breitbart and the shock jock statements now sound laugh out loud hilarious. Needless to say, neither Breitbart or Anthony “regret” the release of the photo.

The Washington political establishments of both big parties are not hip. But they deliver verdicts differently. Republicans are permanently self-righteous and allow disgraced politicians like Vitter to keep on keeping on. Democratic self-loathing doesn’t allow for that and with so many Blue Dog Democrats now holding sway it will take the strength of Huma Abedin and the dogged tenacity Weiner’s has exhibited on the House floor to weather the party’s wrath, which they both are intent on doing.

In fact, much of the defense of Weiner is actually for Abedin, who is respected as a “substantial” woman of great substance and character. She’s the one encouraging her husband to dig in, which contrary to Roger Simons and Jay Newton-Small and others, does not require she make an appearance.

“She loves her husband very much. She is committed to her husband and her marriage,” the close friend said. She’s adamant that her husband does not resign, and is optimistic that he can continue his career as an elected official. “I think people have weathered worse,” said the source. “They are still talking all the time about what to do [to survive the scandal],” the source said, adding that they plotted his political comeback while at the hotel. – Weiner on wife support, Huma has his back

The calls for resignation were a mistake, especially looking at new generations of potential politicians waiting in the wings. Social media mistakes will be common to many good people coming up the ranks in politics, which Krystal Ball represented in 2010. But it shouldn’t be a deal breaker, nor should we continue to expect what never can be delivered: perfection in our politicians.

Weiner’s no Jack Kennedy and he’s no Bill Clinton. But at least his wife Huma is carrying his child and his cheating is virtual (at this point, though it really doesn’t matter if it crossed over after his X-rated exposure). You can’t say that about Arnold Schwarzenegger, John Edwards, David Vitter or the scores of other politicians who’ve been unmasked.

If Weiner had only paid a prostitute he wouldn’t be in this trouble. The Washington political establishment, including the media, can handle the oldest profession pitfall; they just can’t wrap their heads around virtual sex.

Taylor Marsh is a Washington based political analyst, writer and commentator on national politics, foreign policy, and women in power. A veteran national politics writer, Taylor’s been writing on the web since 1996. She has reported from the White House, been profiled in the Washington Post, The New Republic, and has been seen on C-SPAN’s Washington Journal, CNN, MSNBC, Al Jazeera English and Al Jazeera Arabic, as well as on radio across the dial and on satellite, including the BBC. Marsh lives in the Washington, D.C. area. This column is cross posted from her blog.



13 Responses to “Weiner Wrap, with Barbara Walters”

  1. DLS says:

    The U.S. public is disgusted with Weiner and wishes he’d resign, or get expelled or at least censured by the rest of the House.

    It is impossible to defend Weiner by mischaracterizing his critics.

    (Even if it were not mischaracterization, it would still be an invalid and pathetic attempt to defend Weiner.)

  2. DLS says:
    June 10, 2011 at 2:32 pm (Edit)

    The U.S. public is disgusted with Weiner and wishes he’d resign

    Who isn’t disgusted?

    Your wild accusation that the “U.S. public… wishes he’d resign” doesn’t matter and is sheer hyperbole.

    It’s up to New Yorkers whom he serves.

    As one of the links in my piece reveals, New Yorkers tend not to give a crap about what other people think, especially the Democratic establishment.

    gcotharn says:
    June 10, 2011 at 2:35 pm (Edit)

    1. What if Weiner…

    If an ethics investigation or something concrete and provable surfaces, whether it’s what you’re floating without any proof whatsoever or something else, Rep. Weiner will have to pay the consequences.

  3. DaGoat says:

    I’ve said consistently that as long as what Weiner did was consensual, the matter should really remain between Weiner and his wife, and he should not resign. I have since read that the picture Weiner sent to Gennette Cordova was unwelcome, as were some of his sexual comments made to the Las Vegas chat buddy.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43343779/ns/local_news-las_vegas_nv/

    If more statements come out that Weiner was sending pictures and making comments that were unwelcome, that really moves things into a different light. I don’t agree with gcotharn that there is enough evidence to show Weiner was stalking underage girls, but if it is shown Weiner had moved into the area of harassment that would be good reason to ask him to leave.

  4. DLS says:

    G. C. The extreme leftist “feminists” will defend Weiner even more than the underage recipient (whom they’d defend if she liked it and wanted more, encouraging the Slimebag-D NY). Hopefully they won’t emerge from their dark places and add to this.

    If he actively went after under-age girls, yes, it ought to become extremely bad for him (and the “things” that have come, even as though they’ve been moved, to try to defend him).

    You know that at the same time, had the politician been a Republican, wow, the Outrage(!) [snicker] from “feminists” and other Usual Subjects.

    [snicker, again]

  5. roro80 says:

    The extreme leftist “feminists” will defend Weiner even more than the underage recipient

    Who, DLS? Find me a feminist who is saying that Weiner should be allowed to send shlong shots to underaged girls. Go for it. Find me one.

    It is my contention that even if he sent pictures to adult women without consent that he did something morally depraved and criminal.

    Again, DLS, your knowledge of feminism is so poor that you should probably stick to not putting words in their mouths.

  6. roro80 says:
    June 10, 2011 at 6:59 pm

    Again, DLS, your knowledge of feminism is so poor that you should probably stick to not putting words in their mouths.

    Good advice.

  7. DLS says:

    Well, then there are those on the Left so extreme that then defend Weiner’s actions with young women, itself remarkable, then defend it when Weiner is married.

    [shaking head in sadness about the Decline]

  8. DLS says:

    There’s all kinds of entertainment from the Usual Suspects.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304259304576373624099940038.html

  9. DaGoat says:

    gcotharn those are good questions. I would bet almost all candidates say they support family values, they just define them in their own terms. I would also bet most would not define family values as secretly sexting other women when you’re married. So whatever terms you use to define family values, Weiner probably failed to observe them.

    I’ve never been comfortable with the idea that the same action is acceptable for a Democrat but not for a Republican purely on the basis of the GOP espousing family values. It seems hypocritical to say an action is OK for one party but not another.

  10. DaGoat says:

    gcotharn I would say typically GOP family values are defined mainly in terms of being anti-abortion and anti-gay marriage. Neither of those applies to this situation. I agree most Democrats would define monogamy and faithfulness as family values that should apply to almost everyone. So in that sense Weiner’s behavior would not be consistent with family values as defined by either party.

    BUT as I have said if Weiner’s actions were consensual they do not rise to the level that would make me want him to resign.

  11. DLS says:

    Weiner’s best defense is that what he did has nothing to do with his Congressional duties. Of course, he has to show that he didn’t do it on Congressional time or misuse Congressional assets (computer) to do it.

  12. JSpencer says:

    Frankly I don’t think the country is particularly well served by the way private lives of people (not just politicians) have become so public. This is a relatively new phenomenon and as has been pointed out, there are many highly respected and successful leaders in the past who wouldn’t pass muster by today’s “standards”, including some pretty big names in the history books. I’d MUCH rather have qualified and effective leadership that included indiscretions and peccadillos than I would watered down and inept Pat Boonish “leaders” who can’t figure out which end is up. If you dig deeply enough you will find skeletons in every closet. Granted, Weiner did most of the digging in this case, but that is beside the point. Now, if it turns out he has broken any laws that would of course be a different matter. Meanwhile, none of this has any relationship to his well known abilities as a representative.

  13. EEllis says:

    While I understand the position, and generaly agree, that Wiener has done nothing in his email and tweets that would require him to vacate his seat. I do think many are missing the other side of the coin. As the saying goes “It’s the coverup that get’s you”. And here in this case I think it’s true. If he just blew it off or played dumd then fine but he lied, attacked, defamed, slandered, set friends up to lie, and generaly acted like there were no limits. That to me is wrong, and as a basis for him being removed, seems more than a good idea.

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