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  • Axel Edgren

    We need a new term for reasoning like that.

    I submit the portmanteau “Lolgic”.

  • oaechief

    No two people have the same “normal.” If she does not chose that behavior that is her private business. What two consenting adults do in the privacy of their bedroom is no body elses business. I’m quite sure that there is behavior that I would think is strange and would not participate in, but I will not try to impose any of my views on any one else.

    • DaMav

      I agree with you in general that what two consenting adults do to each other in privacy is nobody elses business and short of major organ damage none of the state’s business. However I would respectfully point out that demanding public recognition and sanction by the state for ‘gay’ marriage is not, by definition, private activity.

      • WagglebutII

        ” . . . short of major organ damage . . . ” What are we talking about here, scratching the cabinet, busting a suction bellows, breaking a draw knob, roughing the manual. As the old priest said, the old thing better than roses on the piano is tulips on the organ. You folks are too much.

        The only reason to deny parity, equal treatment or human rights to all and any people is prejudice.

        • DaMav

          “You folks are too much”

          Actually what I had in mind when I wrote that was such things as extreme asphyxiation, employed by both homo and hetero, which can result in a dead or severely damaged body. It’s a standard part of a rational disclaimer to the simplistic credo that what two consenting adults do to each other in private is none of the state’s business. Playing Russian roulette is another example. As is apotemnophilia.

          When a dead or severely injured body shows up it becomes state business. You would have to be a pretty extreme libertarian to argue otherwise.

      • oaechief

        “I would respectfully point out that demanding public recognition and sanction by the state for ‘gay’ marriage is not, by definition, private activity.” Is not hetero-marriage sanctioned by the state?

        • DaMav

          Of course it is. I’m not making a ‘privacy’ argument about a non-private matter.

  • DLS

    “demanding public recognition and sanction by the state for ‘gay’ marriage is not, by definition, private activity”

    It’s normal to question the what, the “noun.” But what bothers people as much or more is the how or the “verb,” as is true with other leftist causes. What many question additionally is the why — for example, is it elevation to parity that’s sought, or reduction or “destruction” by eliminating distinction?
    These lead us not only to ask why, really why, but along with the how make us aware of who (the loudest voices often are not of the GBLT community claiming victimhood or making these demands).

  • Axel Edgren

    “is it elevation to parity that’s sought, or reduction or “destruction” by eliminating distinction?”

    Marriage equality doesn’t require destruction of anything. There must be no distinction in the legal, official area between gay couples and straight couples, because it is not the job of the state to preserve such distinctions (or, rather, discrimination).

    Like with much resistance to left-wing ideas, the worrywarts are reduced to sophistry and concern-trolling.

  • WagglebutII

    I see your point. We commonly see married patients in the trauma unit and psych wards suffering from wanting to look like amputees in ordere to be aroused. As for asphyxiation, I’ve yet to encounter a married partner experiencing asphyxiation simply for arousal. It has become a fad among some younger groups but wouldn’t make a whit of difference in granting equality to gay marriage or affirming the state’s compelling interest in same. Usually asphyxiation follows in the direction of homicide and requires a different referral. The state should stay out of the bedrooms of consenting adults. It damned well has enough to occupy the resources of government.

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