Rush Limbaugh. perhaps the highest rated talk show host in American history, a broadcaster who truly knows broadcasting, and a conservative Republican icon. is now blasting President Barack Obama because Obama ordered the pirates to be killed — and the pirates were teenagers. And he casts it in a way suggesting that innocents were slaughtered. Read it here.

Honestly: Who ever would have thought thirty years ago that millions of Americans would tune in for three hours a day to listen to someone who does almost nothing but demonize and whip up rage against anyone who belongs to a different political party and the other party itself? Politics has become entertainment in the form of one big grudge match. Not long ago, Limbaugh and other conservative talkers were accusing Obama of dithering on what to do about the pirates that held Captain Richard Phillips hostage. Now Limbaugh has this new line.

Question to Republicans: I’ve voted for some Republicans over the years (and for some years was a registered Republican) but now you seriously expect me to vote for anyone who belongs to a party that holds this man up as indicative of your party’s principles, thoughts and values? It isn’t just that Limbaugh is a Republican — and no one is calling for Limbaugh to be silenced. It’s that Republicans either echo him, pay homage to him — or fear to criticize him. This won’t help GOPers make inroads in chipping away at Obama’s coalition that now includes independent voters and non talk show political culture Republicans.

Some cartoonists such as the The Hartford Courant’s Bob Englehart have clearly had enough of seeing the GOP fall lockstep behind Limbaugh as well:

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  • Braindead

    Hey. What goes around comes around. We had to listen for 7 years as GWB killed women and children during Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Oh….oh wait. That was different.

  • StockBoySF

    Hahaha….

    Many of these Obama bashers were giving credit to the US MILITARY for taking out the pirates.

    And of course we all know how these same people claim that Obama will be soft on terrorists and want to negotiate with them.

    What, pray tell, do the Republicans want? From reading the link it appears that Limbaugh actually believes that the pirates should have been let go…

    Is that how we respond to someone who hijacks ships and take hostages? Just let hem go? Who cares if they were between 17 and 19 years old?

    I mean it’s a shame that kids so young do this, but these Republicans didn’t give a rat’s ass about the captives held in Gitmo, many of whom were younger (weren’t there some 10 year olds caught up in the anti-terrorist net?) than the pirates. And these folks Bush threw in Gitmo were held in detention, without due process for years. Even the mere mention that we should look at their cases caused frothing fromthe right-wingers mouths that the liberals wanted to sing Kumbayuh with the terrorists.

    Also these Republicans don’t give a twit about black teenagers in America who commit violent crimes and are charged as adults. What about the African American in GA who was accused of statutory rape of his girlfriend? It was consenual but GA wanted to lock him up and throw away the key.

    Why all the sudden compassion for human rights? I think even the far leftist liberals would agree that if pirates hijacked a ship, took hostages and threatened to kill them that there should be punishment.

    This Limbaugh truly is an entertainer and what’s sad is that most of his listerners buy into his BS and think he’s serious.

  • Braindead

    Right the same comment could be made about GWB and the war on terror but it wasnt. Isnt it interesting StockboySF how you now find yourself defending the murder or killing of boys for reasons that you believe are justified.

    Isnt it funny how the Obama faithful have turned on their heels and are now beginning to suggest we should invade Somalia. Isnt it funny how the left lied for 7 years for one reason. To gain back power.

    Your comment is the exact reason why GWB will be exonerated by future historians. Barak Obama is continuing all his evil hitler policies and the left now sounds like the right part deux.

    • StockBoySF

      Braindead, “Right the same comment could be made about GWB and the war on terror but it wasnt. Isnt it interesting StockboySF how you now find yourself defending the murder or killing of boys for reasons that you believe are justified. Isnt it funny how the Obama faithful have turned on their heels and are now beginning to suggest we should invade Somalia….”

      You know, Braindead, Bush saw the world in terms of black and white and I see that you do, too.

      Let me put a little color in your black and white world and remind you of Obama’s stated positions….

      First of all… during the lead-up to the invasion of Iraq Obama said something very similar to, I’m not against all wars, just dumb ones.

      As to what Obama said during his actual election campaign (and I will remind you that he said this numerous times and he won)…. Obama said he believed in drawing down our troops in Iraq IN AN ORDERLY FASHION from Iraq and take the fight to the real war on terror…. in Afghanistan and elsewhere in the world. Obama even went so far to say that if the government of a country was unable or unwilling to take out terrorists then Obama would take the terrorists out. Bush, as it turned out. later took Obama’s advice and did just that when Pakistan was being reluctant.

      Bin Laden, I will remind you, threatened to attack us in 2001 but no one took him seriously (Dem or Republican). As a result we lost thousands of lives in the US on 9/11. Bush took the fight to Bin Laden in Afghanistan and had HUGE approval ratings (weren’t they something like 80%?) It takes more than just Republican support to get those approval ratings. The WHOLE COUNTRY (well, for the most part) supported Bush’s Afghanistan assault.

      But then Bush unnecessarily went into Iraq (and that’s when the huge war protest started with tens of millions protesting in the US and around the world). Even though Bin Laden was still threatening to attack us Bush relegated him to the status of irrelevancy (Bush stated Bin Laden was irrelevant). I would have thought Bush would have learned his lesson about ignoring Bin Laden the first time around. Bush lost his high approval ratings as many Americans were against what they viewed was an unnecessary war (and today even MORE Americans view it as unnecessary).

      While I can’t speak for everyone, I have said since the time I started commenting on TMV that I’m against war, but if it is necessary to protect my country, then so be it. We should not start a war just because we want their oil (or whatever). My forefathers did not fight for this country over the generations for this country to be taken over by some petty dictator or terrorist organization. I certainly will not let anyone take my country away from me and I fully support war if the alternative when necessary. Just like millions of other Americans I supported Bush’s invasion of Afghanistan in 2001 but I opposed his invasion of Iraq.

      It is beyond me that you can compare Obama’s actions of ordering the intervention to save a hostage’s life which was in danger to the actions of Bush who lied to the nation to take this country into an unnecessary war which has claimed more American lives than Bin Laden killed in the 9/11 attacks.

      I also don’t understand why most people on the right seem to believe that those on the left are against war and are against Bush because he took us to war.

      That is simply not the case and I think the election of Obama as president proves that. Most people on the left dislike Bush for what he did with his authority and his abuse of power, including the unnecessary war in Iraq, while Bush chose to disregard the terrorists and Bin Laden in Afghanistan. I think except for the far left peace-niks who never want war, most Americans want sensible war policies, want a president who will defend our country and they are willing to support a president who they feel has good judgement. There will be many aspects of Obama’s approach to war that are like Bush’s. Obama campaigned as being a pro-war (when necessary) candidate and he won. Obama never, ever said that he was against all wars and promised only peace.

      Obama won because people felt that Obama could see the difference (obviously figuratively not literally) between a.) a group of hostages hijacking a ship, holding hostages and threatening to kill them and b.) choosing to invade a country like Iraq, which was not threatening us, while willfully disregarding the one man alive in the world who HAD successfully threatened and attacked us (killing thousands) and was threatening to do so again.

      If there is evidence of terrorists in Somalia then Obama has a responsibility to investigate and take the necessary actions to protect this country. Obama does NOT have the right to invade Somalia because he wants access to that country’s livestock and bananas (the two main exports).

      So your comments about the left being hypocrites because they now support Obama’s war policies but they did not support Bush’s war policies has no basis in reality.

      It appears that you’ve been listening to too many people such as the entertainer Rush Limbaugh who tells you what they want you to know about Obama. You also appear not to have listened too closely to Obama on the campaign trial or bother finding out about his policies. I would suggest that instead of believing what others tell you what they want you to believe, that you should listen to the source and make up your own mind. Believe me.

  • sugarvalley

    The truth be known… Rush is a Democrat and Machiavelli would have been proud!

  • AustinRoth

    So they were teenagers. So what? They were PIRATES, they held a hostage, and they paid the price for what happens when you do things like that.

    Stupid, ridiculous, hate-full comment by Rush. No excuse for it.

  • $199537

    I haven’t listened to Rush for some time but I think he is jerking the liberal’s chains on this and they are falling for it.

  • peachy305

    The GOP should be so proud. This fool is making millions heaping garbage on the air waves. How can anyone honestly listen to to his trash and call themselves a Republican. What is wrong with the Party? Scum like this person are so busy confusing their followers into believing their trash, that’s whats wrong with the party.

  • DdW

    Limbaugh may be very well “jerking the liberal’s chains” but what a disgusting, shameful way of doing it.

  • troosvelt_1858

    Rush is, and has been for some time, an idiot.

    Then again so are many other media types on both sides of the political fence

  • Unbelievable. And if you go to the full show transcript, it’s actually somewhat different (and on some levels, potentially worse) than the quoted section indicates. He’s either tried for satire and totally missed, or he’s lost his tether entirely.

    Rush Limbaugh site link.

    His guest was apparently Al Sharpton. (David Gergen was also there, it looks like).

    • StockBoySF

      Polimom, “He’s either tried for satire and totally missed, or he’s lost his tether entirely.”

      I agree with you. I was just talking with someone today and mentioned that I might even enjoy Limbaugh if I thought it was satire. But the truth of the matter is that many people believe that what Limbaugh says is the truth. Some people even claim that the media lies and Rush is the only one who tells the truth.

      If Rush’s show was satire it would probably be pretty good. Unfortunately it’s not. It’s how he keeps his private jet, big house, etc.

    • skylights

      No, there are just audio clips of Sharpton and Gergen.

  • kathyedits

    Braindead, you are aptly named.

  • Way to get those ratings, Rush. Way to lose those moderates, Republicans.

  • skylights

    Limbaugh is saying that if Obama had known that the pirates were black Muslims, he wouldn’t have ordered them shot. Rush Limbaugh, racist? NAAAAH!

  • Lit3Bolt

    What Rush is trying to do is whip up anger (what else) by suggesting that Obama is so ruthless he’s even willing to kill his own kind to stay in power. See? Obama is an incompetent leftard aka the 2nd coming of Jimmy Carter, but he’s also a Machivellian tyrannical demigod who has seduced the military into performing for him.

  • superdestroyer

    If a white mayor in a large American city had Oked the sniper shooting of three AFrican-American teenagers who were holding white hostages, all of the progressives at TMV would be screaming racism and demanding DOJ Civil Rights investigation. The poiint that Rush was trying to make is that there are severe racial double standards in the U.S. and the progressives at TMV are going out of their way to prove him correct.

    The left talks about at dealing with international criminals during the Obama Administration but then talks about emptying the jails. Talk about people being confused.

  • Lit3Bolt

    @ SD –

    Darn, you figured us out and accurately predicted our behavior in that hypothetical situation.

    Do you have any non-race related posts? Just curious.

  • $199537

    Do you guys really think Rush Limbaugh has a problem with shooting 3 pirate kidnappers holding an American at gunpoint? This is clearly satire.

  • This is the same Rush Limbaugh who cheered George W. Bush’s decision to drop bombs on Baghdad, a city of 5 million people! More than 7000 civilians–men, women, and children–were killed during the first 6 weeks of the Iraq War. And now he’s complaining because three teenage pirates were killed?

    Limbaugh’s hypocrisy knows no bounds. One can agree or disagree with Limbaugh’s political views. But it would be the height of intellectual dishonesty to for any of Limbaugh’s supporters to defend his recent comments without condemning his support for George W. Bush’s “Shock and Awe” campaign on Baghdad.

  • JSpencer

    I too have voted for republicans in the past; I’ve also voted for democrats, independents and other third party candidates. It’s easy to make a choice, I just steer the furthest away from the least promising of the bunch. Any party that appears to be allowing itself to be influenced by the noisiest, most divisive, and negative voices in the pack make my job of choosing much, much easier.

  • jwest

    Superdestroyer,

    It’s brave of you to try to explain the biting satire that exposes the hypocrisy of the left in Rush’s pirate segment yesterday, but I’m afraid the truth is lost on this crowd.

    Gandelman used Crooks and Liars as his “source”, not once thinking that maybe, just maybe, the information was not exactly as accurate as it could have been.

    Polimom at least went to the source, but somehow gleaned that Al Sharpton was Rush’s guest (OMG!).

    You can talk, but if no one is listening communication doesn’t work. Let’s all continue the tradition at TMV to avoid any real comprehension of what the other side says and stick to using prejudices and stereotypes to project the hate.

    • “Polimom at least went to the source, but somehow gleaned that Al Sharpton was Rush’s guest (OMG!). “

      I thought the idea of Sharpton on Limbaush was bizarre when I read the transcript (which doesn’t give quite the context I evidently needed, unfortunately) — and almost added a question mark to my initial comment, but ran out of time.

      Full disclosure: I don’t like Rush Limbaugh, for reasons too numerous for this comment. However, I did show the complete transcript to Dear Husband (who is neutral about Rush). His take-away was also that it was an attempt at satire, but that it was incredibly poorly done.

      He and I ended up in full agreement (a rare moment!): when Rush goes into these off-the-wall places, it’s not at all clear that it’s satire to even people who are not predisposed to reject him — which makes broadcasts such as this one problematic. People who swallow every pearl that falls from his lips are (imo) pretty unlikely to separate out the various threads and subtexts.

  • jchem

    DE: “Limbaugh may be very well “jerking the liberal’s chains” but what a disgusting, shameful way of doing it.”

    I agree with you DE, but speaking of disgusting and shameful:

    http://themoderatevoice.com/28976/the-despicable-vileness-of-grandmother-palin/

    Limbaugh is a dolt. I’m sure he’ll talk at length about how his comments were somehow spun out of control. He loves the attention and he certainly gets plenty of it here.

  • DdW

    The BIG FAT IDIOT (sorry, my caps key got stuck) is the sublime example of a man who’ll do anything—repeat ANYTHING…sorry, no matter how base, vulgar, cowardly and tawdry for attention, ratings…and bucks. Let’s accept that, and we’ll save ourselves a lot of aggravation.

    Stay tuned for his “apology”, it was all a satire, “trying to make a point,” and “you all fell for it”

  • jwest

    Polimom,

    “I thought the idea of Sharpton on Limbaush was bizarre when I read the transcript (which doesn’t give quite the context I evidently needed, unfortunately)…..”

    When people read Shakespeare for the second (or tenth) time, they discover a new bit of wit or satire that they previously didn’t realize was there. Any of his works could be interpreted in a bad light if the reader was predisposed to think of him in a negative manner and was looking to find evil intentions in his writing.

    Rush makes $100 million a year giving his opinion. His listeners have been found by Pew Research to be the most informed group of news consumers in the country. His brilliant satire highlights the vacuous thought process and hypocrisies of the left, but it requires a trained ear with years of reference to relate each skit to relevant current events and past satires that drive home the point.

    Rush is an experience that is best enjoyed by listening. I’m sure if you had played the segment in question, you would naturally have picked up on the situation and humor of the skit. The reference to “Somali merchant marine organizers” was kind of a dead giveaway.

  • I can’t think of a more tin-eared interpretation of Limbaugh’s remarks, which were so obviously facetious.

  • RogerSweeny

    Jonathan Swift once wrote this thing called “A Modest Proposal” where he said poor Irish people should fatten up their babies and sell them to the English as food. People think he’s a brilliant satirist but I think that’s just plain mean.

  • timmaguire

    Amazing how few literate people there are here (post-literate?, well, phrase it that way and maybe they’d sign on!) Gandelman, you should be ashamed of yourself (you have beclowned yourself, sir).

    Limbaugh is quite clearly talking about how liberals would react if Obama were a Republican. How could any of you have missed that? Gandelman, it’s a short excerpt, didn’t you bother reading it before writing this ignorant essay?

  • jwest

    Roger,

    It’s pretty obvious you’ve never tasted Irish Baby Fillets. Delicious.

    Seriously, Swift is an excellent example of satirical writing that ridicules some of the same traits of the left that Rush makes fun of now. Limbaugh is making fun of liberal naivety, their use of anonymous sources, questionable “experts” and made-up “facts”.

  • CStanley

    His take-away was also that it was an attempt at satire, but that it was incredibly poorly done.

    That was my immediate assumption, because almost all of the liberal outrage at Limbaugh is the result of this (though of course, ‘poorly done’ depends on what his intent is- if it’s to get attention and ratings, knowing that liberal commenters and bloggers will pick up on what he’s saying, then he’s succeeding as he always does.)

    Anyway, glad to hear that my assumption was right without having to wade through it or try to explain it to anyone (which always brings on the litmus tests “You don’t actually defend him, do you?”) No conservative can have cred if he/she won’t agree that Limbaugh is evil incarnate.

  • CStanley

    jwest: I think Roger himself was engaging in satire to make his point.

  • Franco53

    No one cares how you vote. You obviously vote for the party that includes Moore (Michael) and Obermann and Sharpton and Pelosi Reid Fran,k Fwank rather. So of course you are such a principled moderate you will never vote R.

  • piratearg

    have you seen this video about the pirates?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjreRSFNLTI

  • CStanley

    I hadn’t even noticed at first, but just glanced back at Joe’s post and something struck me. Since Limbaugh has been able to fill three hours every day with lampooning of how the left in this country drums up outrage, what does that say about the state of things on the left?

  • AliceAN

    Ha!

    My thought exactly when I first heard about this. Seriously, Rush made a pact with Obama – more listeners for Rush, no credible opposition to Obama.

  • dumbdumbdumb

    Wow. You’re dumb.

  • TravisJSays

    “I haven’t listened to Rush for some time but I think he is jerking the liberal’s chains on this and they are falling for it.”
    Of course. It’s obvious. Rush often does a very sarcastic “expose absurdity by being absurd” thing. The “TELL” is this:

    “The left itself warned us of this in Iraq, they said all we’re doing is creating more terrorists. So apparently we’ve created more hijackings on the high seas, in the Gulf of Aden by teenaged black Muslims, the merchant marine organizers. ” – Rush

    You don’t know Rush at all if you take this straight up. He’s inserting a leftwing talking point into current events – IN THE PROCESS SHOWING HOW ABSURD THE WHOLE CONCEPT IS.
    Rush said this on heels of mentioning that there are now additional hijackings of ships. SO IF YOU FIND RUSH’S COMMENT AN ABOMINATION, WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS ADMITTING THE LEFT WAS WRONG IN ITS CRITIQUE AGAINST BUSH IN IRAQ. That’s Rush’s point here – “REALITY” has hit Obama and if he acts like a real President who defends American citizens, he’ll be killing ‘bad guys’ just like Bush did, and engaging in the same kinds of Bush policies that the left decried.

    Maybe his satire isn’t your cup of tea… Fine. Change the channel. But its clueless to go into meltdown over his comments. Unless your goal is just to whip up ignorant hate against Rush by people who never listened to him by taking comments out of context and real meaning.

    BTW, trying to tie the whole Republican party to Rush is a pathetic dweebish DNC Talking Point. Give. It. A. Rest. Rush is not a GOP or Republican leader. He’s just a talk show host with a popular show spewing entertaining from a right-wing viewpoint; not more than Chris Matthews is the DNC head or John Stewart is a Democrat leader. Just different media mouthpieces. The Obama admin wants to play up Rush for the sole political purpose of having some GOP punching bag; all political demagogues need an enemy – Rahm E. has decreed that Rush is Obama’s. Any media person who goes along with this blatant political game (and Evan Thomas of Newsweek admits it was a game and Rahm Emmanuel was playing it), is just a shill for the obama White House.

    And BTW since Rachel Maddow and Keith Olberman are as unhinged on the left as Rush is on the right, you should forbid yourself from voting for Democrats as well as a protest against the existence of foul partisan mouthpieces… How DARE there be any voice except the ‘moderate’ ones!

  • TravisJSays

    “Limbaugh is quite clearly talking about how liberals would react if Obama were a Republican. How could any of you have missed that? Gandelman, it’s a short excerpt, didn’t you bother reading it before writing this ignorant essay?”

    When it comes to criticizing Rush Limbaugh, it is definitely an ADVANTAGE to be completely ignorant. I am convinced most liberal critics don’t listen to Rush.

    After all, if Gandelman actually studied the transcript, or (gasp) actually listened to Rush, then ended up accidently admitting he listened to Rush and that he made a bit of sense … where would his career be? What woudl the friendly Obama admin sources say? Who would talk to him at Georgetown soirrees?

    Priorities, man, priorities!

  • TravisJSays

    PoliMom: “I thought the idea of Sharpton on Limbaush was bizarre when I read the transcript (which doesn’t give quite the context I evidently needed, unfortunately) — and almost added a question mark to my initial comment, but ran out of time.”

    The context needed is to listen to Rush Limbaugh. The fact that you dont even know how his show WORKS yet you pass judgment on him is very TELLING.
    Apparently, conservatives can be judged harshly and with extreme prejudice on the basis of flawed information.

  • soupsoupsoup

    To quote the popular meme:

    Successful troll is successful.

    You don’t get Rush; instead of simply acknowledging your lack of understanding and moving on, you whine and complain. This only fuels his greater success.