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Posted by on Aug 3, 2009 in At TMV | 12 comments

Rasmussen: Hey! You know what doesn’t suck? Our health care!

thumbs.jpgIt’s not hard to understand why some supporters of the Democratic majority are in such a hurry to push through a massive health care reform bill before everyone has a chance to weigh in and gain some consensus. Rasmussen has finished yet another round of polling which indicates that a significant majority of Americans don’t really feel that we’re hovering in the range of third world nations when it comes to either coverage or care. (You can view the specific questions and percentages here.) I could bore you with yet more tea leave reading on this, but our friend Ed Morrissey at Hot Air has already done the heavy lifting. Take it away, Ed.

Rasmussen notes a partisan split among the respondents, but it’s not as stark as one might imagine. Eighty-nine percent of Republicans think the health care they receive now is good or excellent and 69% of independents agree — as do 66% of Democrats. When asked to rate the overall system rather than just their own care, all of the three give lower favorable ratings, but both Republicans and independents have majorities rating it as good or excellent. Even though two-thirds of Democrats rate their own care as good or excellent, 71% of Democrats want to change the system, which hints that quality of care may not be their primary motivation.

Interestingly, the satisfaction with their own personal care doesn’t show much difference by income levels, either. Fifty-eight percent of those making under $20,000 a year think their care is good or excellent, which goes up to 72% for those making between $20K-$40K, and continues to escalate through the various income levels. If 58% of the lowest-income Americans think they get good or excellent health care, why should we upend the entire system?

(Emphasis mine, particularly for the figures on independent voters, without whom the Democrats have absolutely zero future next fall.)

Once again we see Nancy Pelosi and company attempting to rush a trillion dollar plus package through, crashing toward yet another cliff, but Americans seem to be taking a pause to consider exactly what we have and, more importantly, what we may stand to lose. There is room for improvement, to be sure, and measured consideration by all factions of Congress can probably come up with something good. Or, we can do what has been the hallmark of this Congress thus far and try to jam something through before anyone notices the potential damage they are leaving in their wake.

If the Democrats don’t want to be a one term wonder crew yet again, they would be wise to listen to the people upon whom their jobs depend. This lemmings into the void approach is wearing very thin.

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  • Zzzzz

    At least when it comes to political polling, Rasmussen has been one of the least accurate. I would need to see more polls showing the same trend to find this result credible.

  • Kastanj

    “If the Democrats don’t want to be a one term wonder crew yet again, they would be wise to listen to the people upon whom their jobs depend.”

    You wish. The democrat learned their lesson from ’94, will rightly impose reform on everybody (which will not be a problem for the already insured, who will sadly have to forgo wonderful freedoms such as the choice to have to pay 22000 dollars for having a baby) and then when the new system won’t destroy the world and doom all of humanity to eternal torment, it will be accepted and will be useless as a political bludgeon for the GOP, just like Medicare (which was described as the end of freedom by that other politician who was great at making the poor feel empowered while he enacted policies that hurt them – Reagan).

    “measured consideration by all factions of Congress can probably come up with something good.”

    Yeah, let’s wait until 2011, I’m sure that Grassley will no longer be a complete idiot by then, and I am sure that we won’t have slogan-spouting left-haters pretending to be informed citizens or anti-reform propaganda trying to spread completely made-up rumors about reform: http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_treatment/archive/2009/08/03/quot-there-s-absolutely-nothing-here-that-s-right-quot.aspx

    No dice. No reform is bad for the DNC and all Americans, any reform will have more than a good chance at being a boon for all. You keep on trying to pretend that the manufactured and misguided distress over reform will be a problem for democrats after it is voted through, but it won’t. The reality of reform will not match the shibboleth, and once reform has gone through only the anti-Obama crowd will continue caring and whining.

  • shannonlee

    We also think our coffee tastes good….doesn’t make it true.

  • “Even though two-thirds of Democrats rate their own care as good or excellent, 71% of Democrats want to change the system, which hints that quality of care may not be their primary motivation.”

    Or maybe we all know someone in that 1/3 of Democrats or 11% of Republicans who don’t rate their health care as good or excellent. Maybe our sister’s husband just lost his job, leaving both without insurance, and while we’re very willing to lend the money to make sure they can afford the meds they need, we really think it would be better if that didn’t have to be the case. Maybe we know that just because we ourselves have the priviledge and social status and job to have excellent or good health care, that doesn’t automatically mean that everyone else does. Maybe we remember that close call a few months ago when our companies were laying off people and we were seriously considering just eloping with the fiancee earlier than planned just in case it came down on one of us. Maybe we can see ourselves in the position of those millions who do not have adequate health care, and it makes us fearful, knowing that especially in a job market like the current one, whether one has a job with benefits or not is more luck than at any other time in our lifetimes.

  • Kastanj

    There is really nothing to suggest that the people currently chuffed and happy with their insurance (yeah, what a delight for you, paying exorbitantly more than people like me for almost always the same coverage and treatments…) would have to change anything under any of the reform plans. The reform is about covering the uncovered so they don’t end up costing so damn much for no good reason, and to change the dynamic between customers, hospitals, insurance companies etc. for the better. Man no one is going to send a gubbyment bureaucrat to sew a patch on your sleeve or anything – get over yourselves.

  • Tully

    when it comes to political polling, Rasmussen has been one of the least accurate

    Heh. Rasmussen consistently scores up at the top of pollsters for accuracy. Not as good as SurveyUSA, but well above Mason/Dixon and Gallup and Zogby.

    • SteveK

      Tully wrote: “Heh. Rasmussen consistently scores up at the top of pollsters for accuracy.”

      Consistently, eh? Tully, your link only says that Rasmussen was third in polls regarding “Democratic contests in North Carolina, Indiana, West Virgina, Kentucky and Oregon.” in May, 2008. That hardly fits most peoples definition of ‘Consistent’.

      Following are our updated pollster ratings, accounting for the Democratic contests in North Carolina, Indiana, West Virgina, Kentucky and Oregon.

      UPDATE:
      The Poll of Polsters: Rating the IA Polls at polster.com shows that Rasmussen was at the bottom of the barrel eeking out a mere 16th a field of 18.

      The pollsters receiving the lowest scores are Zogby International, the American Research Group and Rasmussen Reports. In the case of Zogby, four out of five pollsters rated their surveys as not very (28%) or not at all reliable (52%).

  • Lit3Bolt

    Jazz, I’ll tell you what’s wearing thin is your attitude towards the mere suggestion of healthcare reform. Pelosi! Cost overruns! Cliffs! Lemmings! Then let’s add a link to the conservative DailyKos, Hot Air. Whoopie! Wonder what their bias is?

    But I’m sure you’re gleefully thrilled at some pushback. It fits in with your cutesy “Tee hee! Both sides dislike me so I must be an Omniscient Moderate!” act.

    What was that about the Party of No Ideas again, Jazz? This article seems to be perfectly fine with the no idea status quo. I mean, our Healthcare doesn’t suck! It’s great! And the insurance companies deserve every hard earned dollar they get denying coverage, the poor dears.

    • Dr J

      “Jazz, I’ll tell you what’s wearing thin is your attitude towards the mere suggestion of healthcare reform.”

      We will never know how Jazz would have responded to the mere suggestion of healthcare reform.

  • Tully

    Um, you’re nitpicking my example with a subjective poll of other pollster’s subjective opinions of the “dependability” of other pollster’s polling of a single state for a single caucus (Iowa Dem Caucus 2008), said survey being taken before the results of the caucus were in? That said poll is not even remotely an objective analysis of polling accuracy at all, in any way shape, or form? Sweet irony.

    Let’s look at the actual results and polling in November 2008 for Iowa, that state you think Rasmussen so sucked at. Hmmm. Seems Rasmussen called it at 8% for Obama a week before the election and noted a rising trend in his favor, and the final results were (insert drum roll) Obama 54.0% versus McCain 44.7%, for a final of 9.3% Obama, a 1.3% undermargin for Rasmussen but reflective of their claim of a slight upward Obama trend. Marist, also a week out, was first in accuracy for Iowa at 10% or 0.7% off. Third was Mason-Dixon, also a week out, with 11% or 1.7% off. ALL other Iowa pollsters in the final week or closer were off at least 4.7%.

    • SteveK

      Tully, They say a broken clock is right twice a day, too, but since you put NO value on what all the other MAJOR pollsters (Rasmussen included) think there’s nothing left for me to say. I’ll leave you to your belief system. November 2008 in IOWA, eh? Boy howdy you got me with that one.

  • Tully

    Horrors, I put less weight on opinions that have been empirically demonstrated to be wrong than I put on opinions empirically proven to be correct! However will I live with myself? 😀

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