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		<title>By: Lynx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 16:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul, among the many reasons to not do this (chief being that it&#039;s against our Constitution and that the EU would not stand for it) there is the fact that they aren&#039;t asking for a chunk of land, they are asking for an entire province. Oh yeah they want &quot;independence&quot; but still with Spain giving up some cash to &quot;compensate&quot; them for their &quot;suffering&quot; (the Basque country is given more money than any other province and is allowed more autonomy than any other). They also are asking for the province next door, which very energetically rejects the very idea of becoming part of the Basque country. Oh, and they also want a piece of France. I&#039;ll leave to your imagination what the French have to say about that.

The point is that they won&#039;t stop killing unless they get EVERYTHING they want, that is: A large piece of Spain and a piece of France with Spain giving them money, in addition to releasing every single ETA terrorist in jail. Even if we were willing to cowardly hang our heads and give them this (which we aren&#039;t) there is the matter of the millions of Spanish citizens who would fall under their rule unwillingly. We&#039;d have to deal with a massive refugee crisis.

I wish we COULD just put them all on a chunk of land, build a fence and forget about them, but they aren&#039;t so brave and open, they will hide amongst the populace and continue their little fight (which incidentally makes them a ton of money through extortion, or what they call the &quot;revolutionary tax&quot;).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul, among the many reasons to not do this (chief being that it&#8217;s against our Constitution and that the EU would not stand for it) there is the fact that they aren&#8217;t asking for a chunk of land, they are asking for an entire province. Oh yeah they want &#8220;independence&#8221; but still with Spain giving up some cash to &#8220;compensate&#8221; them for their &#8220;suffering&#8221; (the Basque country is given more money than any other province and is allowed more autonomy than any other). They also are asking for the province next door, which very energetically rejects the very idea of becoming part of the Basque country. Oh, and they also want a piece of France. I&#8217;ll leave to your imagination what the French have to say about that.</p>
<p>The point is that they won&#8217;t stop killing unless they get EVERYTHING they want, that is: A large piece of Spain and a piece of France with Spain giving them money, in addition to releasing every single ETA terrorist in jail. Even if we were willing to cowardly hang our heads and give them this (which we aren&#8217;t) there is the matter of the millions of Spanish citizens who would fall under their rule unwillingly. We&#8217;d have to deal with a massive refugee crisis.</p>
<p>I wish we COULD just put them all on a chunk of land, build a fence and forget about them, but they aren&#8217;t so brave and open, they will hide amongst the populace and continue their little fight (which incidentally makes them a ton of money through extortion, or what they call the &#8220;revolutionary tax&#8221;).</p>
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		<title>By: Paul in Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul in Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 15:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lynx,
Why not give these separatists a chunk of land and then isolate them? Let their followers decide what kind of quality of life they want - independence and poverty or connectivity and prosperity.
Why would anyone want to do business with people who kill those who disagree with them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lynx,<br />
Why not give these separatists a chunk of land and then isolate them? Let their followers decide what kind of quality of life they want &#8211; independence and poverty or connectivity and prosperity.<br />
Why would anyone want to do business with people who kill those who disagree with them?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael van der Galien</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/9963/responsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-40745</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael van der Galien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 12:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lynx will be posted and I agree completely with your comment. As I said, it&#039;s &#039;mostly&#039; a muslim problem, that doesn&#039;t mean that other &#039;groups&#039; don&#039;t have the same problem.

And I&#039;m sorry to hear this. It is understandable that you&#039;re upset.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lynx will be posted and I agree completely with your comment. As I said, it&#8217;s &#8216;mostly&#8217; a muslim problem, that doesn&#8217;t mean that other &#8216;groups&#8217; don&#8217;t have the same problem.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m sorry to hear this. It is understandable that you&#8217;re upset.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynx</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/9963/responsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-40744</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 12:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though usually a muslim problem, you don&#039;t have to be Muslim &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/12/30/madrid.blast/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;to be a terrorist&lt;/a&gt; . 

Sorry, I know it&#039;s not quite on the topic, I agree with the sentiment of the post, but today it&#039;s hard for me to get worked up about Islamic terrorism when my own cities airport has just been attacked by terrorists of our own, ending the &quot;cease-fire&quot; (which was really just a strategy to regroup and rearm, and we all knew it). 

PS: I HATE that American publications call ETA &quot;separatists&quot; or &quot;militants&quot; and their attacks &quot;part of a bloody campaign for independence&quot;. They are terrorists, they form a terrorist organization that MURDERS people. They put bombs in shopping centers, they once put a bomb in a child&#039;s toy.  Calling them separatists lends them a hell of a lot more credibility than those bastards deserve.

OK, I&#039;ve gone way off topic, but I&#039;m kind of shaken up about this. Americans learned on 9/11 the terror and the helplessness that terrorism brings, but Spaniards have dealt with it for 40 years and we are damn sick of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though usually a muslim problem, you don&#8217;t have to be Muslim <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/12/30/madrid.blast/" rel="nofollow">to be a terrorist</a> . </p>
<p>Sorry, I know it&#8217;s not quite on the topic, I agree with the sentiment of the post, but today it&#8217;s hard for me to get worked up about Islamic terrorism when my own cities airport has just been attacked by terrorists of our own, ending the &#8220;cease-fire&#8221; (which was really just a strategy to regroup and rearm, and we all knew it). </p>
<p>PS: I HATE that American publications call ETA &#8220;separatists&#8221; or &#8220;militants&#8221; and their attacks &#8220;part of a bloody campaign for independence&#8221;. They are terrorists, they form a terrorist organization that MURDERS people. They put bombs in shopping centers, they once put a bomb in a child&#8217;s toy.  Calling them separatists lends them a hell of a lot more credibility than those bastards deserve.</p>
<p>OK, I&#8217;ve gone way off topic, but I&#8217;m kind of shaken up about this. Americans learned on 9/11 the terror and the helplessness that terrorism brings, but Spaniards have dealt with it for 40 years and we are damn sick of it.</p>
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