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		<title>By: Chippedchips</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/7800/a-wider-war/comment-page-1/#comment-16133</link>
		<dc:creator>Chippedchips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Aug 2006 13:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Israel, Canada, and Netherlander ecole from U S all right, everyone else all wrong.... &lt;b&gt;!!&quot;they&lt;/b&gt;&quot; has clicked da heels of der boots and spoken!!...so all you guys better shuddup...LOL

Fact: None of you guys are ever going to change each others minds on a single issue, just butt heads like little billy goats and fan the flames.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Israel, Canada, and Netherlander ecole from U S all right, everyone else all wrong&#8230;. <b>!!&#8221;they</b>&#8221; has clicked da heels of der boots and spoken!!&#8230;so all you guys better shuddup&#8230;LOL</p>
<p>Fact: None of you guys are ever going to change each others minds on a single issue, just butt heads like little billy goats and fan the flames.</p>
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		<title>By: Don in Canada</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/7800/a-wider-war/comment-page-1/#comment-16132</link>
		<dc:creator>Don in Canada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Aug 2006 20:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim S:
&lt;blockquote&gt;But do they really not realize that Hizbollah is the only reason Israel might have for attacking Lebanon?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
As Israel&#039;s current operations (and minor border violations of their own in the last 26 years) fuel support for Hezb&#039;Allah in fighting Israel. 
&lt;blockquote&gt;It&#039;s more likely that while the Lebanese (And most of the nations in that part of the world as well.) might say that they want democracy and freedom it is a weak desire compared to the desire to destroy the Jews. All any despot has to do is blame Israel for the unfortunate necessity of putting off any reform and they fall for it every time.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
To borrow from Michael vdG:
&lt;blockquote&gt;O really? How would you know that? You don&#039;t. Some of us know that we can&#039;t look inside peoples heads. Therefore, we have to listen to what they say and watch what they do.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Lebanese who might not have supported Hezb&#039;Allah previously are watching Israel&#039;s actions now. That the dropping of warning leaflets before destroying people&#039;s homes and livelihood is being characterized as &#039;benevolent&#039; is just a sign of how twisted the rhetoric is becoming. 

And lest we forget, Hezb&#039;Allah and Hamas are also political entities, elected and supported because the alternatives were corrupt, impotent, or both. Israel is only interested in its own security and, since Reagan, the west can&#039;t be bothered with contributing to Lebanon&#039;s stability until the body count starts rolling. In other words, the Lebanese and Palestinians &lt;i&gt;democratically elected&lt;/i&gt; representatives who will looking out for their interests, an inconvenient truth often forgotten because we don&#039;t like who they elected.

Short and sweet, there is no right side in this; the only winners are political hawks (for now) and arms merchants.
&lt;blockquote&gt;You know what&#039;s so funny Rudi? People said the same thing about Hitler. Well, that worked out just fine didn&#039;t it&lt;/blockquote&gt;
That and the current situation prove one thing: the &#039;pound a nation into the dirt and ignore it for 20 years or until it grows a despot to be pounded again&#039; foreign policy approach doesn&#039;t work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim S:</p>
<blockquote><p>But do they really not realize that Hizbollah is the only reason Israel might have for attacking Lebanon?</p></blockquote>
<p>As Israel&#8217;s current operations (and minor border violations of their own in the last 26 years) fuel support for Hezb&#8217;Allah in fighting Israel. </p>
<blockquote><p>It&#8217;s more likely that while the Lebanese (And most of the nations in that part of the world as well.) might say that they want democracy and freedom it is a weak desire compared to the desire to destroy the Jews. All any despot has to do is blame Israel for the unfortunate necessity of putting off any reform and they fall for it every time.</p></blockquote>
<p>To borrow from Michael vdG:</p>
<blockquote><p>O really? How would you know that? You don&#8217;t. Some of us know that we can&#8217;t look inside peoples heads. Therefore, we have to listen to what they say and watch what they do.</p></blockquote>
<p>Lebanese who might not have supported Hezb&#8217;Allah previously are watching Israel&#8217;s actions now. That the dropping of warning leaflets before destroying people&#8217;s homes and livelihood is being characterized as &#8216;benevolent&#8217; is just a sign of how twisted the rhetoric is becoming. </p>
<p>And lest we forget, Hezb&#8217;Allah and Hamas are also political entities, elected and supported because the alternatives were corrupt, impotent, or both. Israel is only interested in its own security and, since Reagan, the west can&#8217;t be bothered with contributing to Lebanon&#8217;s stability until the body count starts rolling. In other words, the Lebanese and Palestinians <i>democratically elected</i> representatives who will looking out for their interests, an inconvenient truth often forgotten because we don&#8217;t like who they elected.</p>
<p>Short and sweet, there is no right side in this; the only winners are political hawks (for now) and arms merchants.</p>
<blockquote><p>You know what&#8217;s so funny Rudi? People said the same thing about Hitler. Well, that worked out just fine didn&#8217;t it</p></blockquote>
<p>That and the current situation prove one thing: the &#8216;pound a nation into the dirt and ignore it for 20 years or until it grows a despot to be pounded again&#8217; foreign policy approach doesn&#8217;t work.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael van der Galien</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/7800/a-wider-war/comment-page-1/#comment-16130</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael van der Galien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Aug 2006 18:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The &quot;desire to destroy the Jews&quot; is rhetoric used to flame the Arab on the street.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

O really? How would you know that? You don&#039;t. Some of us know that we can&#039;t look inside peoples heads. Therefore, we have to listen to what they say and watch what they do.
Doing those two things, it&#039;s obvious that Ahmadinejad isn&#039;t just using rhetoric.

You know what&#039;s so funny Rudi? People said the same thing about Hitler. Well, that worked out just fine didn&#039;t it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The &#8220;desire to destroy the Jews&#8221; is rhetoric used to flame the Arab on the street.</p></blockquote>
<p>O really? How would you know that? You don&#8217;t. Some of us know that we can&#8217;t look inside peoples heads. Therefore, we have to listen to what they say and watch what they do.<br />
Doing those two things, it&#8217;s obvious that Ahmadinejad isn&#8217;t just using rhetoric.</p>
<p>You know what&#8217;s so funny Rudi? People said the same thing about Hitler. Well, that worked out just fine didn&#8217;t it</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/7800/a-wider-war/comment-page-1/#comment-16128</link>
		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Aug 2006 13:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;desire to destroy the Jews&quot; is rhetoric used to flame the Arab on the street.None of the Arab countries have an army capable of destroying Israel. The oil rich Arabs would not allow this to happen, it would bankrupt their corrupt regimes. The US economy has even bigger problems coming when India and China ramp up their economies and really compete for the oil reserves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;desire to destroy the Jews&#8221; is rhetoric used to flame the Arab on the street.None of the Arab countries have an army capable of destroying Israel. The oil rich Arabs would not allow this to happen, it would bankrupt their corrupt regimes. The US economy has even bigger problems coming when India and China ramp up their economies and really compete for the oil reserves.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim S</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/7800/a-wider-war/comment-page-1/#comment-16126</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Aug 2006 05:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brij, you state &quot;Of course, all Lebanese civilians want an end to the warlord culture because they have tasted democracy and prosperity. But so long as Israel can humiliate their country at will by bombing anywhere with impunity, no patriotic Lebanese can take the risk of confronting Hizbullah to dismantle it.&quot;.

But do they really not realize that Hizbollah is the only reason Israel might have for attacking Lebanon? It&#039;s more likely that while the Lebanese (And most of the nations in that part of the world as well.) might say that they want democracy and freedom it is a weak desire compared to the desire to destroy the Jews. All any despot has to do is blame Israel for the unfortunate necessity of putting off any reform and they fall for it every time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brij, you state &#8220;Of course, all Lebanese civilians want an end to the warlord culture because they have tasted democracy and prosperity. But so long as Israel can humiliate their country at will by bombing anywhere with impunity, no patriotic Lebanese can take the risk of confronting Hizbullah to dismantle it.&#8221;.</p>
<p>But do they really not realize that Hizbollah is the only reason Israel might have for attacking Lebanon? It&#8217;s more likely that while the Lebanese (And most of the nations in that part of the world as well.) might say that they want democracy and freedom it is a weak desire compared to the desire to destroy the Jews. All any despot has to do is blame Israel for the unfortunate necessity of putting off any reform and they fall for it every time.</p>
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		<title>By: Elrod</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/7800/a-wider-war/comment-page-1/#comment-16125</link>
		<dc:creator>Elrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Aug 2006 04:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good analysis.  There are local conflicts and there are regional confrontations. That&#039;s what started World War One, and the recent African War in the Congo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good analysis.  There are local conflicts and there are regional confrontations. That&#8217;s what started World War One, and the recent African War in the Congo.</p>
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