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It’s rather a pessimistic scenario that I am reading from signs I see in the atmosphere; I hear and see that some Shia parties with strong militias are seeking a truce (not peace) with Sunni counterparts especially those with significant militias but this in my opinion will be more like a sectarian truce than a true national reconciliation.

But again, why would they seek truce with all the deeply rooted differences between them?
Well the unpleasant scenario I’m expecting is basically that these parties want this truce to fix one front and pave the way for the beginning of a Sunni-Shia joint Islamic insurgency against the US and the UK in Iraq, and I call it Islamic because that’s how the planning party wants it to look like to persuade militants of the other sect to join them in their next mischief or at least to guarantee that the other sect would remain neutral during the conflict they are planning to spark.

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Remember these guys are pro Amerucan and pro occupation. Hopefully they are hallucinating.

This nitwit (ugh) president, and his selected nitwits IGNORED every warning as to what would happen if Iraq should be invaded. Going into Afghanistan with a uniformed troop force afer bin Laden was bad enough, let alone an invasion of Iraq.

Here is the either ignored or forgotten fact.

On September 11, 2001 the United States, WAS NOT attacked by any soverign nations army on orders of government.

LOL – That is why the brave IDF is not going into Lebanon full bore, just give them more “Scock and Awe”. And why the JP and IDF spokesmen tell us every day they have Bint Jbeil under control. Stop reading the Zionists rags!! Show some links to The Star saying this – not JP.

This is why Israel bombs Lebanon killing 10 for every 1 Israelis. This is why an Israelis general says 10 laser guided presicion bomb for every Katyusha unguided “bootle” rockets. Israel is fighting a Cheetos war, with nice footage of laser guided bombs. Lets see them go door to door and fight man to man to defeat and disarm Hezbelloh. Then the UN and the World can enforce a cease fire. From 12,000 feet a pilot sees all as terrorists.

Is an Israeli teardrop worth more than a drop of Lebanese blood?

To make very broad statements: Post-1982-invasion Lebanon and post-World-War-I Germany had several similarities particularly in the way they were both politically and economically weak, and security was to be maintained through buffer zones and arms control. I think most historians would agree that the conditions created in Germany by the treaty of Versailles created an environment that fostered the rise of the Nazi party. We should not be at all surprised that radicals have strengthened in power in Lebanon.

Fortunately, following World War II, the victors employed a different tact than the victors post WWI. One especially, Winston Churchill, had direct political experience in both wars and in the period in between. Largely because of his wisdom, the folly of the outcome of WWI was not repeated and the cycle of violence was broken. Japan and Germany are now full participants in the world economy and the world is safer for it.

We have the history books before us, will we learn these principles of war at the cost of our forefathers or our children?

“Moral of the Work. In war: resolution. In defeat: defiance. In victory: magnanimity. In peace: goodwill.”
-Winston Churchill

For lazy folks – http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/magnanimity

The big “irony” is that many on the Right in the US have called for the UN’s demise

If you’d prefer, Rudi, we could nuke (or just remove funding) the UN, and do just as well. It’s called politics. You have to use all possible diplomatic options to keep votes from the peaceniks, something even Bush did in Iraq (Spending months building up to that war sure worked wonders. Bwhahaha…hah). We know, and we know Israel and Bush knows, that the United Nations will never provide a useful action here. Russia, and too many of the Middle-Eastern member states (and many Eastern European countries cowed by their muslim populace), will never support anything more helpful to Israel than simply just providing a UN held ‘no man’s land’ that will quickly be filled by UN-hired Hamas and Hezbollah men.

Possibly better : we wouldn’t have United Nations funding going into the (incredibly biased link alert) pockets of Hamas.

Or be generous in making peace as soon as possible to allow today’s enemies to obtain prosperity equal to that of Israelis.

No mother, Shiite, Palestinian or any other, would send her children to war if that were to end their constructive and prosperous lives

(incredibly biased link alert) None?

Do you really think welfare will stop a religious war? You think it’s just a lack of ‘prosperity’ that encourages people to become suicide bombers? Which of the 9/11 terrorists didn’t have a degree, again?

You think any amount of ‘kindness’ will undo two generations of training got racial hate?

You think giving land will undo the Doctrine of Revenge that propagates like that? The same people who are willing to kill dozens after an allegedly flushed book are going to stop at taking a certain amount of land that was allegedly taken from them?

If non-Muslims go into “Muslim land”, it is the duty of any non-Sufi muslim to fight them. How long do you think it’ll be til the ‘legitimate’ bounds of Israel are Muslim land? Or, hell, how long til the whole earth is? After all, “God” did make everything :eyeroll:

The solution to the problem is at once simple and unacceptable. Make terrorism from Hezbollah and Hamas and similar groups so well-fought that the monetary supporters will consider it a waste of funds compared to simply bribing UN officials.

Doubt any human worth defending would allow such a path, though.

“However, given Israel’s situation and strategic dilemma, the Israeli people may not have a generation to come down off their war frenzy, and they may not be able to move on to another cycle. This could be for keeps, in other words.”
http://billmon.org/archives/002581.html

A home country, out of reach for attacks, that is. Israel’s position is more difficult.

This reminds me of another nation that did “not have the stomach to kill civilians by the tens of thousands”. It withdraw from all countries where it faced terrorist attacks and civil uprising and released them into autonomy. That’s how Israel was made possible and how India became independent. Of course, this nation had a home country to withdraw to…
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