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		<title>By: JSpencer</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/62348/before-the-health-care-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-250928</link>
		<dc:creator>JSpencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 03:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see my work is done here. Next thread. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see my work is done here. Next thread. <img src='http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: DaMav</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/62348/before-the-health-care-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-250916</link>
		<dc:creator>DaMav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would be happy to admit fault when you produce evidence that the charges on her three arrests were &#039;trying to get a letter to the President&#039;.    The fault, dear JSpencer, lies not in the stars, nor in ourselves, but in the false and misleading narrative offered in the original post.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Once she was arrested for disrupting Congress.  Another time she was arrested for trespassing.  The fact that she said she had a letter had nothing to do with it.  Claiming you want to deliver a letter does not grant you immunity from following the law.  I&#039;m guessing you actually realize that the statement was deliberately misleading.  I give you that much credit, even if you don&#039;t want to claim it publicly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be happy to admit fault when you produce evidence that the charges on her three arrests were &#39;trying to get a letter to the President&#39;.    The fault, dear JSpencer, lies not in the stars, nor in ourselves, but in the false and misleading narrative offered in the original post.  </p>
<p>Once she was arrested for disrupting Congress.  Another time she was arrested for trespassing.  The fact that she said she had a letter had nothing to do with it.  Claiming you want to deliver a letter does not grant you immunity from following the law.  I&#39;m guessing you actually realize that the statement was deliberately misleading.  I give you that much credit, even if you don&#39;t want to claim it publicly.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/62348/before-the-health-care-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-250912</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I&#039;m sure she was not charged with &#039;trying to get a letter to the President&#039;.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s reasonable to assume that this is another example of deliberate &quot;benign neglect&quot; of details, or euphemistic rewording of what happened, similar to &quot;demonstrated against capitalism&quot; neglects fine details and is a euphemistic description of anti-G-8 &quot;demonstrating&quot; consisting of breaking windows and setting structures afire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I&#39;m sure she was not charged with &#39;trying to get a letter to the President&#39;.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#39;s reasonable to assume that this is another example of deliberate &#8220;benign neglect&#8221; of details, or euphemistic rewording of what happened, similar to &#8220;demonstrated against capitalism&#8221; neglects fine details and is a euphemistic description of anti-G-8 &#8220;demonstrating&#8221; consisting of breaking windows and setting structures afire.</p>
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		<title>By: JSpencer</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/62348/before-the-health-care-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-250900</link>
		<dc:creator>JSpencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hurts too much to admit you were wrong eh? Facts, they are such stubborn things. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hurts too much to admit you were wrong eh? Facts, they are such stubborn things. <img src='http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: DaMav</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/62348/before-the-health-care-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-250898</link>
		<dc:creator>DaMav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was she &quot;arrested three times for trying to get a letter into the President’s hands&quot;???&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Something was wrong with the Post Office?  The mailbox was guarded by police, taking anyone into custody who tried to mail a letter to the President?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m sure she was not charged with &#039;trying to get a letter to the President&#039;.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Falling for the propaganda hook, line, and sinker doesn&#039;t mean everyone has to do so.  Frankly I&#039;m stunned that anyone would be so gullible as to accept this at face value.  That&#039;s like claiming a bank robber was arrested &#039;just for walking up to the teller&#039;s window&#039; after the bank had closed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;You can NOT just walk into Mordor.  However if you want to send a letter, you just call Fedex.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was she &#8220;arrested three times for trying to get a letter into the President’s hands&#8221;???</p>
<p>Something was wrong with the Post Office?  The mailbox was guarded by police, taking anyone into custody who tried to mail a letter to the President?</p>
<p>I&#39;m sure she was not charged with &#39;trying to get a letter to the President&#39;.  </p>
<p>Falling for the propaganda hook, line, and sinker doesn&#39;t mean everyone has to do so.  Frankly I&#39;m stunned that anyone would be so gullible as to accept this at face value.  That&#39;s like claiming a bank robber was arrested &#39;just for walking up to the teller&#39;s window&#39; after the bank had closed.</p>
<p><i>You can NOT just walk into Mordor.  However if you want to send a letter, you just call Fedex.</i></p>
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		<title>By: JSpencer</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/62348/before-the-health-care-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-250889</link>
		<dc:creator>JSpencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here, let me help you out. As you can see, they were indeed arrested:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=897218&amp;category=ALBANY&amp;BCCode=&amp;newsdate=2/5/2010&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Next time you&#039;re tempted to use the word &quot;lie&quot;, try checking your facts first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here, let me help you out. As you can see, they were indeed arrested:</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=897218&#038;category=ALBANY&#038;BCCode=&#038;newsdate=2/5/2010" rel="nofollow">http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?&#8230;</a></p>
<p>Next time you&#39;re tempted to use the word &#8220;lie&#8221;, try checking your facts first.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/62348/before-the-health-care-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-250888</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why are we supposed to be impressed by a pediatrician who went into politics and is now a lobbyist?&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We aren&#039;t.  In addition to doctors advocating Medicare-style &quot;single-payer&quot; in the USA, or using the Canadian or other models, as Drs. Steffie Woolhandler, Marcia Angell, and others at Physicians for a National Health Program have been doing for years (I&#039;ve posted links about her and her organization&#039;s efforts on numerous occasions; the main link is provided again, below), and other organizations and parties such as the New England Journal of Medicine, and the more notorious leftist examples of pediatricians acting as gun control advocates, as well as Helen Caldicott with her silliness since at least the 1980s, politics has openly been pursued by others -- there were doctors specifically organized and active last year trying to get &quot;single-payer&quot; health care made the law and the reality in this country, they were on talk shows such as Ed Schultz&#039;s, and were touring the country (see link below).  When the media, who is as sloppy as it is often liberally biased, reported last year that Obama &quot;met with doctors seeking health reform,&quot; it was probably these doctors that managed to meet him.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pnhp.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.pnhp.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://madashelldoctors.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://madashelldoctors.com/&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why are we supposed to be impressed by a pediatrician who went into politics and is now a lobbyist?&#8221;</p>
<p>We aren&#39;t.  In addition to doctors advocating Medicare-style &#8220;single-payer&#8221; in the USA, or using the Canadian or other models, as Drs. Steffie Woolhandler, Marcia Angell, and others at Physicians for a National Health Program have been doing for years (I&#39;ve posted links about her and her organization&#39;s efforts on numerous occasions; the main link is provided again, below), and other organizations and parties such as the New England Journal of Medicine, and the more notorious leftist examples of pediatricians acting as gun control advocates, as well as Helen Caldicott with her silliness since at least the 1980s, politics has openly been pursued by others &#8212; there were doctors specifically organized and active last year trying to get &#8220;single-payer&#8221; health care made the law and the reality in this country, they were on talk shows such as Ed Schultz&#39;s, and were touring the country (see link below).  When the media, who is as sloppy as it is often liberally biased, reported last year that Obama &#8220;met with doctors seeking health reform,&#8221; it was probably these doctors that managed to meet him.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pnhp.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.pnhp.org/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://madashelldoctors.com/" rel="nofollow">http://madashelldoctors.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: JSpencer</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/62348/before-the-health-care-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-250882</link>
		<dc:creator>JSpencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;And she has been arrested three times for trying to get a letter to the President? Does anyone with two brain cells to rub together believe that allegation? What&#039;s the point of tossing out these kinds of half-truths and lies?&lt;/blockquote&gt; It&#039;s pretty simple, you are calling them lies, so prove they are lies. Wha&#039;dya got?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And she has been arrested three times for trying to get a letter to the President? Does anyone with two brain cells to rub together believe that allegation? What&#39;s the point of tossing out these kinds of half-truths and lies?</p></blockquote>
<p> It&#39;s pretty simple, you are calling them lies, so prove they are lies. Wha&#39;dya got?</p>
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		<title>By: DaMav</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/62348/before-the-health-care-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-250877</link>
		<dc:creator>DaMav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What insinuations?  Read the main post.  She quit being a pediatrician to become a lobbyist for single payer and we&#039;re supposed to be in awe of that.  And it says she was arrested 3 times for trying to get a letter to the President.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Straightforward, obvious nonsense staring you right in the face and waving its hands at you.  No insinuation necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What insinuations?  Read the main post.  She quit being a pediatrician to become a lobbyist for single payer and we&#39;re supposed to be in awe of that.  And it says she was arrested 3 times for trying to get a letter to the President.  </p>
<p>Straightforward, obvious nonsense staring you right in the face and waving its hands at you.  No insinuation necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: JSpencer</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/62348/before-the-health-care-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-250869</link>
		<dc:creator>JSpencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well DaMav, since you&#039;re making a big stink about it how about backing up your insinuations with something concrete? I mean it isn&#039;t like you&#039;ve been a leading paragon of objectivity here in your own right. Just saying...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well DaMav, since you&#39;re making a big stink about it how about backing up your insinuations with something concrete? I mean it isn&#39;t like you&#39;ve been a leading paragon of objectivity here in your own right. Just saying&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DaMav</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/62348/before-the-health-care-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-250820</link>
		<dc:creator>DaMav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are we supposed to be impressed by a pediatrician who went into politics and is now a lobbyist? She has every right to quit her practice and advocate for whatever causes she wants, whether it is that we should bomb Iran or exterminate the whales or bring socialized medicine to the country but why would a physician becoming a lobbyist be especially compelling?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And she has been arrested three times for trying to get a letter to the President? Does anyone with two brain cells to rub together believe that allegation?  What&#039;s the point of tossing out these kinds of half-truths and lies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are we supposed to be impressed by a pediatrician who went into politics and is now a lobbyist? She has every right to quit her practice and advocate for whatever causes she wants, whether it is that we should bomb Iran or exterminate the whales or bring socialized medicine to the country but why would a physician becoming a lobbyist be especially compelling?</p>
<p>And she has been arrested three times for trying to get a letter to the President? Does anyone with two brain cells to rub together believe that allegation?  What&#39;s the point of tossing out these kinds of half-truths and lies?</p>
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		<title>By: JSpencer</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/62348/before-the-health-care-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-250819</link>
		<dc:creator>JSpencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;They have learned through experience that there are no consequences for disrespecting Obama. &lt;/blockquote&gt; The consequences indeed exist, but they are detrimental to the country as a whole. Balance in parties, just like balance in govt. is a good thing, but when a division is created that becomes too deep to cross, that isn&#039;t balance, it&#039;s something out of control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>They have learned through experience that there are no consequences for disrespecting Obama. </p></blockquote>
<p> The consequences indeed exist, but they are detrimental to the country as a whole. Balance in parties, just like balance in govt. is a good thing, but when a division is created that becomes too deep to cross, that isn&#39;t balance, it&#39;s something out of control.</p>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention Before the Health-Care Summit &#124; The Moderate Voice -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Before the Health-Care Summit &#124; The Moderate Voice -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by TMV, Jack M. Jack M said: Before the Health-Care Summit http://bit.ly/9CnHJQ [...]</description>
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		<title>By: FrequentPoster</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/62348/before-the-health-care-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-250754</link>
		<dc:creator>FrequentPoster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t blame the Republicans for refusing. They have learned through experience that there are no consequences for disrespecting Obama. He, his administration, and the Democratic Party have no self respect, and will allow the Republicans to do anything with impunity,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t blame the Republicans for refusing. They have learned through experience that there are no consequences for disrespecting Obama. He, his administration, and the Democratic Party have no self respect, and will allow the Republicans to do anything with impunity,</p>
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		<title>By: JSpencer</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/62348/before-the-health-care-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-250750</link>
		<dc:creator>JSpencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to wonder how seriously you expect to be taken when you can&#039;t even spell the names of either A.) the person to whom you are addressing your letter OR B.) the name of the person who is the object of your complaint. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Guess what my own &quot;challenge&quot; to you is? ;-)&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt; I await your reply.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to wonder how seriously you expect to be taken when you can&#39;t even spell the names of either A.) the person to whom you are addressing your letter OR B.) the name of the person who is the object of your complaint. </p>
<p>Guess what my own &#8220;challenge&#8221; to you is? <img src='http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> <br />
<blockquote> I await your reply.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: JSpencer</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/62348/before-the-health-care-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-250744</link>
		<dc:creator>JSpencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Megadittos Sil. Seriously. I agree.</description>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/62348/before-the-health-care-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-250736</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;BUSH/CHENEY!&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Silhouette is the responsible person for this.&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/breaking_news/story/1006935.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/breaking_ne...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;BUSH/CHENEY!&#8221;</p>
<p>Silhouette is the responsible person for this.<br /><a href="http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/breaking_news/story/1006935.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/breaking_ne&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Schadenfreude_lives</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/62348/before-the-health-care-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-250728</link>
		<dc:creator>Schadenfreude_lives</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;What they want is strong, stalwart and stubborn leadership.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Wait for it. It is obvious. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If the above statement is true, they want...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;BUSH/CHENEY!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;What they want is strong, stalwart and stubborn leadership.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Wait for it. It is obvious. </p>
<p>If the above statement is true, they want&#8230;</p>
<p>BUSH/CHENEY!</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/62348/before-the-health-care-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-250724</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The people will rally around their newly fledged bold and decisive leadership like no other. &quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In Massachusetts they rejected too much bold and decisive leadership.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You&#039;re not alone, though -- a minority do believe the solution to the problem is More.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We&#039;ll see what they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The people will rally around their newly fledged bold and decisive leadership like no other. &#8220;</p>
<p>In Massachusetts they rejected too much bold and decisive leadership.</p>
<p>You&#39;re not alone, though &#8212; a minority do believe the solution to the problem is More.</p>
<p>We&#39;ll see what they do.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/62348/before-the-health-care-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-250711</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What they want is strong, stalwart and stubborn leadership.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Not everyone is a member of the Herd, Sil.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Not to mention -- the Dems had their &quot;crisis&quot; to exploit -- and they failed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That&#039;s the real problem the Dems and you are facing currently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What they want is strong, stalwart and stubborn leadership.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not everyone is a member of the Herd, Sil.</p>
<p>Not to mention &#8212; the Dems had their &#8220;crisis&#8221; to exploit &#8212; and they failed.</p>
<p>That&#39;s the real problem the Dems and you are facing currently.</p>
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