This is the second and final part of my effort to explain why much of conservatism has lost touch with reality. Part I is here.
When I was a younger man, living and working in the early years of Reagan’s Washington, I fell in with a group of guys who mixed penny ante poker nights with discussions of politics and political philosophy.
We were not the Algonquin Round Table, that’s for sure. But in between the sounds of ice clinking in glasses filled with good scotch, and chips being tossed into the pot, a colloquy of sorts would develop about the issues of the day.
I should mention that I was definitely on the low end of the scale when it came to brain power in this bunch. In our group were a couple of congressional aides, some crack lobbyists, an AEI fellow, and two guys who were studying for advanced degrees at George Washington University in Public Administration. I think the rest of them allowed me to hang around to provide comic relief. Otherwise, I was (at the time) royally outclassed.
No matter. My job, as I saw it, was to challenge the assumptions held by these bright young men by playing devil’s advocate in fleshing out the underlying rationale for their positions. More often than not, my attempts were met with groans of “here he goes again,” and not a few guffaws. But at the time, I was not very well read and couldn’t contribute to the scintillating arguments being advanced by my more learned colleagues.
These were exciting times in Washington. The intellectual ferment on the right was incredible with ideas and proposals bubbling and frothing at think tanks, policy hubs, and even bull sessions like the one with which I was involved. There was a lot of cross pollination of ideas as a proposal from one source would be captured by another, improved upon, and perhaps even fiddled with by a third before ending up in Congress or the White House as a serious policy alternative.
The bottom line is that there were no litmus tests, no question of being forced to conform to a certain worldview. The open, free exchange of ideas was done without fear that someone else would step forward and accuse you of not being “conservative enough.” The arguments back then were no less passionate, but there was an underlying respect for those with which you disagreed.
I may be romanticizing this period a bit but I think that essentially, this captures the spirit in conservative salons and other centers of thought at the time. With no internet, and only a few media outlets (NRO and Human Events being most prominent), the dynamic of discussion allowed for a free wheeling exploration of issues and principles from all angles. The idea that anything proposed or said might brand one an “apostate” never entered our thought processes.
Is the state of conservatism today even remotely similar? I would challenge anyone who thought so. The dead hand of conformity has settled over conservatism with consequences that have yet to fully play out. There is no room in modern conservatism for anything except rote ideology. This catechism brooks no deviation lest any introspection reveal how weak and wildly contradictory what passes for conservative thought has become.
Case in point; my inclusion of some criticisms by liberal Sam Tannenhaus in my piece from yesterday. Apparently, my belief that Tannenhaus has anything useful to say with regard to conservatism makes me some kind of closet liberal. The feeling among some conservatives appears to be that anything written about conservatism by any liberal is useless, and believing otherwise makes one a dupe, or worse.
I don’t know how widespread that belief is on the right but judging by comments I have received in the past, it is not uncommon at all. Rejecting criticism based solely on the ideology of an author is anti-intellectual and anti-reason. Despite making the point that Tannehaus – someone who I believe to have made an honest attempt to track the decline of conservatism in a systematic, logical manner – gives us a critique that overall, is seriously flawed. But does this mean that every single criticism he made was invalid simply because he’s a liberal?
I reject that notion and point to this response of some conservatives as evidence that the excessively ideological prism by which many on the right look at the world causes them to abandon reason and logic, substituting a comforting credo that cannot be amended.
Liberals have their own problems along this line. Rigidity of thought is not confined to those on the right. But this attitude still begs the question; can anything be done by anybody to lift conservatism out of this moribund state and set it on a path to where it can claim the high ground based on honesty, prudence, and a clear eyed view of the world as it truly is?
I believe there is hope to be found in a small group of very smart, very talented younger conservatives who may be able to bridge the divide in conservatism’s factions while re-establishing a reality-based paradigm that sees America as the rest of the non-conservative country sees her.
As an example, I would point to the deceased website Culture 11 as a place were young writers were nurtured and given a chance to flex their intellects to delve into subjects you rarely see discussed on blogs or other conservative media. The site was provocative, unconventional, and scandalously unorthodox. They even had the occasional liberal write for them, which raised the hackles of true conservatives everywhere.
I realize I am heading into dangerous territory by bringing up Culture 11. Some of the writers at the site regularly challenged conservative dogma – a mortal sin to many on the right who hate having their assumptions questioned by anyone, even a conservative. And Culture 11 writers like Conor Friedersdorf and James Poulos are are in bad odor with most who consider themselves “real” conservatives, largely because they sometimes speak well of liberals and take a decidedly less ideological approach to their writings.
But Culture 11 had huge problems that it could never overcome; first and foremost, they could never quite figure out what kind of publication they wanted to be. Failure flowed from that one premise, as this autopsy by Washington Monthly’s Charles Homans points out:
This had a lot to do with the fact that Culture11’s editorial brain trust was made up of people who had little concern for—or at least needed a breather from—the self-immolating Hindenburg of movement conservatism. Kuo had proclaimed his own disenchantment in Tempting Faith. Friedersdorf was concerned with improving journalism, not creating a permanent Republican majority. Political editor James Poulos, a PhD candidate in government at Georgetown who describes his dissertation subject as “the alluring puzzle of the Napoleonic soul,” was far too idiosyncratic in his own politics. Arts editor Peter Suderman was a libertarian who in the last frenzied days of the election spent a whole column arguing that voting was stupid. Having no claim to any particular ideological niche, Culture11 tried to corral them all in the same room and get them talking to each other. “People talk about the conservative circular firing squad—I think we see ourselves as a demilitarized zone,” Friedersdorf told me. “There is nothing like an agreement on our staff that would allow us to claim a slice of anything.” The result, perhaps inevitably, lacked a real sense of identity, but it also offered the closest thing political journalism had to a controlled experiment.
In such a free wheeling atmosphere, quality was bound to be uneven. But what excited me about Culture 11 was that a real attempt was being made to break out of the echo chamber conservative media had largely become. The writing was fresh, and the ideas presented challenged conventional wisdom.
Admittedly, my own taste in cultural critiques tends more toward The New Criterion and its mix of policy and cultural criticism. But what kept me coming back to Culture 11 was that the writers were willing to take chances. In a conservative culture so addicted to conformity, it took some courage to place yourself outside the box and approach subject matter from an entirely new perspective.
Of course, this meant that many of those writers were given short shrift by mainstream conservatives. RedState eventually banned any links to the site which is inexplicable unless you realize that this kind of anti-intellectualism is rampant on the right today. Refusing to be exposed to alternative viewpoints is the essence of ignorance and only proves my point again about a large portion of conservatism being out of touch with reality.
Ross Douthat believes that younger conservative writers tend to me more heterodox, less wedded to the ideology of movement conservatives:
Moreover, part of what creates the air of heterodoxy among the young turks is the fact that many of the young conservative writers I’m thinking of (again, myself included) are still experimenting with a wide range of topics, and haven’t settled into the kind of groove (or rut) that most successful pundits and public intellectuals eventually find themselves slipping into. In this sense, at least some of the ideological conformity that you see among old older right-wingers on, say, foreign policy is really just ideological conformity among those older right-wingers who dilate regularly about foreign policy.
What makes some of these younger conservatives different than their elders isn’t their position on issues, which is decidedly conservative, but rather their willingness to examine and criticize assumptions upon which those issues rest. This imparts a breath of fresh air much needed if conservatives are to return to their roots, embrace freedom of thought, and move beyond the narrow confines that conservatism has boxed itself into by rejecting reason and logic in favor of emotionalism and ideology.
The Culture 11 writers have scattered to the 4 winds with some moving on to smaller publications like Reason Magazine or The American Conservative. Friedersdorf and a couple of other Culture 11 alumni are now blogging at American Scene, among other places. But their impact will continue to be felt. It may take a decade or more, but eventually these and other writers will take their place in the forefront of conservative thought.
Will they be any more welcome then than they are today? A couple of more electoral smash ups like 2008 may be the catalyst that shakes conservatism out of its conformist stupor and forces the right to begin listening to those with a more realistic outlook on America and conservatism itself.
Before you can talk about liberals and conservatives, and what's wrong with them, someone needs to define what those things even mean, or what their ideology could be defined as. Let me illuminate the problem a bit with a small comparison:
First, some labels:
liberal = Democrat and conservative = Republican
Is that really true? Well, yes, because there seems to be no consistent definition of any of those terms. So in essence here's what I'm saying:
yizaipit = Urxajum and pexaqua = Buymsovat
And who could argue with that?
Now lets compare them:
1. Conservatives are for war and liberals are against war, as long as it's in the mid-east. Otherwise, reverse that.
3. Conservatives are for fiscal responsibility, cutting back spending whenever possible. It's just never been possible.
4. Liberals are for personal freedom, cutting back laws that intrude on our privacy and freedoms whenever possible. It's just never been possible.
5. Conservatives favor Wall Street and big business. Liberals favor Wall Street, big business and unions.
6. Liberals are for helping the working class and the poor, as long as it doesn't help them not be poor, or it conflicts with some other favored special interest.
7. Conservatives are for helping the poor, but only if it helps one of their special interests first.
8. When the economy is bad, conservatives borrow for tax breaks, then pork projects. Liberals borrow for pork projects, then tax breaks.
9. Liberals are against deficits — until they are elected. Conservatives are against deficits — until they are elected.
10. Conservatives are against business regulations, even working ones like Glass-Steagall. Liberals are for business regulation, except working ones like Glass-Steagall.
11. Liberals are for transparency while they're campaigning, but not when in office. Conservatives, uhm, at least they're honest about it.
12. Conservatives are partisan, never seeing the hypocrisy of their own party. Of course, liberals are immune from that kind of prostration, aren't they?
Great analysis Rick. It's refreshing to see this sort of thinking and reasoning going on. As you say, there is rigidity of thought on the left as well, but the sort of stagnation and resistance to creative endeavor (not to mention intolerance of deviation) we've seen on the right is in a class by itself. I sincerely hope the younger conservatives coming up can help shake the GOP loose from it's rut. The country would benefit from having the tempering effect of two healthy parties, but there is much work to do if that is going to ever happen.
1. I don't agree the 2008 election was a rejection of conservatism as a philosophy…..and I offer up the subsequent and soon-to-be elections as my proof.
2. Everybody ought to feel free to blog about whatever they feel, but it is kinda hard to play Thoreau nowadays and sit around some pond and pontificate all day…….I can readily understand why the best and brightest would rather attend to something a bit more tangibly rewarding.
3. This whole notion of “we need to have more constructive dialogue” is premature in the timetable. This year was planned to be a derailing of the liberal juggernaut upon the election of Obama. We did what we planned and it worked quite well. Sorry if you didn't get a copy of the memo. We're finding a message that seems to be gaining some electoral steam, but there is no need to fully commit until after the results of November 2010.
Wait, your promised big vision of conservatism is based on a nostalgic recollection of bunch of guys who used to play poker and a now defunct website?
Rick, I used to read Right Wing Nuthouse regularly, I even followed you for a while on Twitter. Frankly I got tired of your constant demeaning insults hurled at conservatives you didn't like, coupled with a lack of specific substance to bolster whatever it is that you claim as your vision. I think you have a contribution to make, and I'm not trying to insult you personally but imo you need to go back to the drawing board, take a deep breath, and start over.
There is a surging, vibrant conservative movement aborning in America. For years it was bottled up by a feeling of needing to support GWB on the war, lest the liberals actually force America into a catastrophic defeat. Therefore we held our tongues and picked our battles — going along on things like NCLB and drawing the line on Amnesty. Now the cork is out of the bottle. Not everyone agreed with that strategy; maybe they were right, maybe they were not.
But that's the point. Conservatives disagree with each other on issues all the time. As ProfElwood points out, clear definitions are elusive, in part because the underlying dynamics are chaotic. Where is this stifling demand for conformity which you wax so furiously over? Conservatives come in many stripes and colors on the issues. There are literally hundreds of conservative web sites, many who disagree vigorously with others on some issues. Some conservatives swear by the Gay Patriot, others swear at him. Some believe Sarah Palin is the greatest thing since sliced bread, others can't stand her. There was a huge tactical and intellectual divide among conservatives over how best to deal with the Stupak Amendment. Where is this stultifying stamp of conformity that you constantly seek to use as a weapon against conservatives? Heck, conservatives can't even agree on whether or not to support CPAC, and there are raucous debates going on over that as we speak. There was a huge rowdy-dow over whether or not Coulter should be speaking last year. Did you miss that?
It is telling to me that your cheers are increasingly coming from liberals who love to watch you whack conservatives over the head because it confirms their own stereotypes about what conservatives are.
There have to be some core principles as rallying points for conservatives — strong national defense, less government, strong support for the Second and First Amendment, some would add the pro-life position but not all. But once you get beyond the basics, there is a great deal of diversity and yes, even tolerance for that diversity, contrary to what the liberals would like to think.
Maybe you see yourself as become the next Frum — the go to guy whenever the libs need someone to bash conservatives. Or another Andy Sully playing on fast receding conservative views to become the self-styled 'true conservative' that the liberals praise whenever he takes an axe to us. If it's about a personal marketing strategy, good luck with that, sort of.
But if you actually want to make a reasonable contribution to conservatism, go back to my response to your last article. You can't keep firing grapeshot into your own ranks and expect people not to react. Go back through this series and look at the terms you use to attack — “dead hand of conformity”, “rote ideology”, “brooks no deviation” — dude, people can't even agree on what the basic principles should be for candidates to get the support of conservatives. “Weak”? We're pressing at the gates of Citadel Kennedy right now in the Mass Senate. It may not fall, but that's hardly a sign of weakness.
I don't claim to speak for anyone but myself. I hold diverse views, most but not all of them conservative. I have friends, family, and acquaintances in both camps. Get a thicker skin and get back in the fight; you are missing the action on the ground.
“Maybe you see yourself as become the next Frum — the go to guy whenever the libs need someone to bash conservatives.”
I am smarter than Frum and better looking. If anything, Frum is trying to become the next me.
And you're right. There's nothing wrong with conservatism. All is well.
Go back to sleep.
Why that sneaky Frum. I shoulda known. lol
I'm way too much enjoying the action to fall asleep. I just wish it paid better. Doesn't everyone?
Terrific.
Only halfway through and really enjoying your ideas, I see that labeling/insulting/arguing from one liners trend moreso now with the spread of the internet and the way information is being distributed.
Now instead of a collection of motivated idealists with the barriers to entry of this information sharing club eliminating the trash, we've got an army of mudslingers that bring the argument down to the lowest common demoninator of understanding, draining the intellectual energy of others with their mindless attacks, all in the interest of protecting their investment of ego in their banter.
Sorry for that run on but it has a nice effect huh? Anyways back to reading..
Welcome to TMV, Jason. I have to agree with you and DaMav: insults and grouping are both enemies of reasonable discourse. Both of you stated your points eloquently.