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	<title>Comments on: Yes, terrorists do manipulate the media</title>
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		<title>By: flaime</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/5899/yes-terrorists-do-manipulate-the-media/comment-page-1/#comment-1935</link>
		<dc:creator>flaime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 17:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The media is ALWAYS being manipulated by somebody. Anybody with enough money can manipulate the media. Anyone who can organize a large enough group can manipulate the media. In fact, anyone with enough persistence can manipulate the media. I believe the media wants to be manipulated. It wants to be directed to sensationalist crap so it can avoid real issues, because that&#039;s how it makes money. And, since the Milton Friedman mindset has come to rule America, is the only thing that matters anymore.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The media is ALWAYS being manipulated by somebody. Anybody with enough money can manipulate the media. Anyone who can organize a large enough group can manipulate the media. In fact, anyone with enough persistence can manipulate the media. I believe the media wants to be manipulated. It wants to be directed to sensationalist crap so it can avoid real issues, because that&#8217;s how it makes money. And, since the Milton Friedman mindset has come to rule America, is the only thing that matters anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: angela</title>
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		<dc:creator>angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 16:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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I have no doubt that at times the media is manipulated, but Rumsfeld gist is that calling the conflict in Iraq and insurgency or a guerrilla war (now accepted) or a civil war are treason and not based on the facts as he delivers.

The media has been lacking in reporting many angles, many believe that electricity and infrastrcture have improved, only a few outlets have reported that we are thinking of a major campaign to liberate Baghdad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no doubt that at times the media is manipulated, but Rumsfeld gist is that calling the conflict in Iraq and insurgency or a guerrilla war (now accepted) or a civil war are treason and not based on the facts as he delivers.</p>
<p>The media has been lacking in reporting many angles, many believe that electricity and infrastrcture have improved, only a few outlets have reported that we are thinking of a major campaign to liberate Baghdad.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike P.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 16:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your basic premise - that al Queda et al are trying to influence news media coverage, and by extension, pay close attention to what our news media reports.  They&#039;re at war with us - we do the same, and I would expect nothing less from them.  Still, to say &quot;They&#039;re much better at (laughing) managing those kinds of things than we are&quot; is either a joke (indicated by the laughter?) a stretch at best or simply sad, given the amount of money we&#039;ve spent on &quot;hearts and minds&quot; and the US status as the home of the biggest and most successful cultural marketers in the world.  The other possibility is that ours is an impossible mission - it&#039;s tough to win the hearts and minds of a populace that largely feels itself occupied from without and under siege from within.

I also think that reporters should continue to embed - though at least &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/01/29/terror/main1249083.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a couple&lt;/a&gt; that I can think of right off the top of my head have had less than stellar experiences.  And let&#039;s not forget that  they&#039;ve been embedding for 3 years now.  At its best I think embedding helps reporters - very few of whom have any experience with the real military - to understand the human face of war, and the professionalism of our military outside of the Abu Ghraib personalities.  Also, I&#039;ve begun to wonder, though I&#039;ve seen nothing to indicate it, if US troops are not themselves beginning to scale back their efforts as the political cost increases back home, and support continues to erode within the military itself.  If it isn&#039;t happening yet, surely it will.

As for non-mbedded reporters - you are certainly correct in mentioning the difficulties  and extraordinary dangers that entails and thus the need for local stringers.  That is itself some of the most obvious and damning evidence that the most basic Iraqi need - personal security - has yet to be attained after hundreds of billions of dollars spent and 3 years of blood, sweat and tears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your basic premise &#8211; that al Queda et al are trying to influence news media coverage, and by extension, pay close attention to what our news media reports.  They&#8217;re at war with us &#8211; we do the same, and I would expect nothing less from them.  Still, to say &#8220;They&#8217;re much better at (laughing) managing those kinds of things than we are&#8221; is either a joke (indicated by the laughter?) a stretch at best or simply sad, given the amount of money we&#8217;ve spent on &#8220;hearts and minds&#8221; and the US status as the home of the biggest and most successful cultural marketers in the world.  The other possibility is that ours is an impossible mission &#8211; it&#8217;s tough to win the hearts and minds of a populace that largely feels itself occupied from without and under siege from within.</p>
<p>I also think that reporters should continue to embed &#8211; though at least <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/01/29/terror/main1249083.shtml" rel="nofollow">a couple</a> that I can think of right off the top of my head have had less than stellar experiences.  And let&#8217;s not forget that  they&#8217;ve been embedding for 3 years now.  At its best I think embedding helps reporters &#8211; very few of whom have any experience with the real military &#8211; to understand the human face of war, and the professionalism of our military outside of the Abu Ghraib personalities.  Also, I&#8217;ve begun to wonder, though I&#8217;ve seen nothing to indicate it, if US troops are not themselves beginning to scale back their efforts as the political cost increases back home, and support continues to erode within the military itself.  If it isn&#8217;t happening yet, surely it will.</p>
<p>As for non-mbedded reporters &#8211; you are certainly correct in mentioning the difficulties  and extraordinary dangers that entails and thus the need for local stringers.  That is itself some of the most obvious and damning evidence that the most basic Iraqi need &#8211; personal security &#8211; has yet to be attained after hundreds of billions of dollars spent and 3 years of blood, sweat and tears.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 14:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.seanet.com/~jimxc/Politics/April2006_3.html#jrm4154&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;post&lt;/a&gt; of my own, which gives some historical perspective.  Our media has often been manipulated by our enemies -- and sometimes by our friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a <a href="http://www.seanet.com/~jimxc/Politics/April2006_3.html#jrm4154" rel="nofollow">post</a> of my own, which gives some historical perspective.  Our media has often been manipulated by our enemies &#8212; and sometimes by our friends.</p>
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