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I Don’t Know If I’ve Ever Seen Anything As Appalling
With all due respect, when will it [expletive deleted] become necessary?
9 Responses to “I Don’t Know If I’ve Ever Seen Anything As Appalling”
Wow,
Lovely language…I am not sure who you are trying to impress but some of you folks here act like you are 10 years old.
As my mother used to always say, “Grow up”!
Forgive me if genocide gets my passions aroused. I’ll just quietly step aside and let the “adults” continue to find creative new ways to ignore mass rape, pillaging, and slaughter.
And to OUR shame, it has been unnecessary for over 30 years…
Listen, I have serious problems with what is going on in Darfur, its a bad situation. But I don’t find your language in a well respected blog of TMV very appealing. In fact, it is childish and you represent TMV in a bad way. There is no excuse for it.
And if you want to talk about genocide, have you all forgotten or even considered Saddam Hussein and what he did to his own people in Iraq? To this day there are mass graves still being discovered.
Oh yeah, we don’t care or we don’t want to consider that and the liberation of a country engulfed in bondage.
Since you don’t fully understand the term Berean.
“Genocide is defined as any of the following acts- intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, as such: “Killing members of the group; Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; and forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.”
Saddam Hussein never tried or could have even come close to or attempted to destroy the Shiites or Kurds in total. Thats why the factually incorrect charge of genocide used by the supporters of the Iraq war is not only wrong, it is dishonestly used.
Either that or the users of the term are not very educated.
On the otherhand genocide is exactly what is being attempted in Darfur against a small group, to exterminate them completely. But that probably doesn’t matter because a big oil feild isn’t nearby.
Pyst,
Actually, I am not sure if you are aware….but Saddam Hussein is being charged right now for genocide. Oh yeah, I am sure you probably didn’t realize that he was captured and is currently being served with justice. As the NY Times reports..
“BAGHDAD, Iraq, April 4 — The Iraqi court trying Saddam Hussein announced Tuesday that it had charged him with genocide, saying he sought to annihilate the Kurdish people in 1988, when the military killed at least 50,000 Kurdish civilians and destroyed 2,000 villages.”
Are you kidding me? Are you next going to tell me that 50,000 people aint that bad? Do you realize the massive amounts of mass graves they are still digging up this day?
Are you aware that HRW organization even looks at Saddam’s Anfal campaign as genocide?
“According to reports by the World Food Program, the United Nations and the Coalition for International Justice, 3.5 million people are now hungry, 2.5 million have been displaced due to violence, and 400,000 people have died in Darfur thus far.”
– from SaveDarfur.org
Bringing up Saddam Hussein is BS in this context – they are unrelated situations. He is a horrible dictator and I hope he get’s what he deserves. But his existence has nothing to do with the situation in Darfur which is spiralling out of control. The Western world is ignoring this region like we ignore 99% of all problems in Africa. Why? Because it’s poor black people killing other poor black people. There’s nothing in it for us if we rally the troops and try to save them. That’s the awful truth. So you can sit back and claim we’re bringing justice to Saddam like it’s some holy quest that proves we’re a good society, but the truth is we’re in it (at least in part) for money and oil.
For the record, I do consider the Anfal campaign (1987-89) to have constituted genocide. Making it all the more important that we bring Hussein to justice and create a stable, liberal, democratic state in Iraq. I’ve said as much numerous times–I’m curious why you just assumed I thought otherwise?
It’s important to note with regards to Sudan that it’s actually Arab Muslims killing Black African Muslims, and that Sudan actually has considerable oil and mineral wealth within its territorial bounderies (as does Chad, which is rapidly being sucked into the Darfur conflict).
There is a time and a place for all of the English language. “This language” (which I didn’t even use here, out of respect for Joe) is in my view perfectly appropriate if the goal is to shock people out of torpor. When it comes to an issue like genocide, I really don’t have any interest in whether you find me “appealing”; I have an interest in making sure people don’t treat this genocide like they’ve treated every other one: with brief horror, professed disgust at the awful barbarity of it all, and then all too quickly moving on to other thigns.I almost never swear either on blogs or in “real life,” but if ever there was a legitimate time for it, this is it. I don’t apologize for it.
Berean, your paper tiger excuses are off base, and a sad defense.
Saddam might be currently facing a genocide charge, but in the current world of attaching words to things wrongly it doesn’t surprise me some people buy the BS.
I gave you the definition of geocide, if you can’t process the definition it’s not my fault. 6 millions Jews is genocide, 50k Kurds is not. It doesn’t take a genius to process the difference, and if you can’t I weep for your lack of intelligence. Btw if killing 50k Kurds is genocide why are we allies with Turkey? You do know they have done MUCh worse to the Kurd’s AND Armenians right? Selective about whom you hitch you wagon to eh?
This is like attaching the word hero to anyone that the Bush people deem usuable for propoganda, or for others to feel good about. A hero is someone that commited a heroic act, such as pulling a person from a burning building. NOT someone that enlisted in the army, went to Iraq, never go shot at a single time, and came home…..that’s called lucky, not heroic. But in Bushworld these terms are being watered down for sppeches, and propoganda so some people assume everything to the N’th degree.