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		<title>By: oaechief</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/56761/when-a-bad-prayer-goes-good/comment-page-1/#comment-239217</link>
		<dc:creator>oaechief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 13:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This thread has changed.  Certainly, most folks, whether Dem, Ind or Repub, understand a good deal of the anger caused by the multi-billion dollar bailouts and especially the multi-million dollar bonuses to executives of banks and Wall St firms, especially when home foreclosures are at record levels.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I refrain from using the t.e.a. phrase because it stands for &quot;Taxed Enough Already&quot; and I do not nor have I ever believed that I am taxed too much.  Roads, bridges, tanks, aircraft carriers all have to be funded somehow.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But I sure want Congress to represent the average citizen instead of the corporations that are big campaign donators.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This thread has changed.  Certainly, most folks, whether Dem, Ind or Repub, understand a good deal of the anger caused by the multi-billion dollar bailouts and especially the multi-million dollar bonuses to executives of banks and Wall St firms, especially when home foreclosures are at record levels.</p>
<p>I refrain from using the t.e.a. phrase because it stands for &#8220;Taxed Enough Already&#8221; and I do not nor have I ever believed that I am taxed too much.  Roads, bridges, tanks, aircraft carriers all have to be funded somehow.</p>
<p>But I sure want Congress to represent the average citizen instead of the corporations that are big campaign donators.</p>
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		<title>By: JeffersonDavis</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/56761/when-a-bad-prayer-goes-good/comment-page-1/#comment-239132</link>
		<dc:creator>JeffersonDavis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 21:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right MLH.....  We all get tempted to go postal on fellow bloggers.  I have my own very short list of people on TMV that push my buttons (or at least they TRY).  No offense, Father_Time.  Oops.... Did that slip out?  Darn!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I try not to do it here either and have found myself apologizing from time to time.  But the politicians and their media lapdogs DO work this way with the marginalizing comments and tags.  It&#039;s worked for many many decades.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#39;re right MLH&#8230;..  We all get tempted to go postal on fellow bloggers.  I have my own very short list of people on TMV that push my buttons (or at least they TRY).  No offense, Father_Time.  Oops&#8230;. Did that slip out?  Darn!</p>
<p>I try not to do it here either and have found myself apologizing from time to time.  But the politicians and their media lapdogs DO work this way with the marginalizing comments and tags.  It&#39;s worked for many many decades.</p>
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		<title>By: mlhradio</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/56761/when-a-bad-prayer-goes-good/comment-page-1/#comment-238995</link>
		<dc:creator>mlhradio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 05:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;I&#039;m a tea partier (and also a democrat) and have been against the use of &quot;tea baggers&quot;. It was meant as a marginalization word.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have used the teabagger phrase before, I will admit.  However, a little while back I decided to decrease my use of some of the more outrageous political insults - I may slip up and use an insult every now and then when I get angry, but by-and-large I&#039;m cutting it out of my commentary.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The main reason being, it&#039;s just plain *not helpful*.  If you insult someone on the message boards by calling them a derogatory name or slur, they are only going to tune you out, no matter how valid your argument or solid your logical reasoning.  If I&#039;m going to try and argue a point or prove someone wrong, I&#039;d rather do it with an intelligent, well-reasoned paragraph than by simply dismissing them as some &quot;nutjob teabagger&quot;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Although, I must admit, there is that short-term feel-good moment when I write some little insulting zinger, and others who agree with me &quot;like&quot; my comment.  But whenever I do that, I&#039;m just preaching to the choir, and how does that really help anyone on this message board?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;I&#39;m a tea partier (and also a democrat) and have been against the use of &#8220;tea baggers&#8221;. It was meant as a marginalization word.</p>
<p>I have used the teabagger phrase before, I will admit.  However, a little while back I decided to decrease my use of some of the more outrageous political insults &#8211; I may slip up and use an insult every now and then when I get angry, but by-and-large I&#39;m cutting it out of my commentary.  </p>
<p>The main reason being, it&#39;s just plain *not helpful*.  If you insult someone on the message boards by calling them a derogatory name or slur, they are only going to tune you out, no matter how valid your argument or solid your logical reasoning.  If I&#39;m going to try and argue a point or prove someone wrong, I&#39;d rather do it with an intelligent, well-reasoned paragraph than by simply dismissing them as some &#8220;nutjob teabagger&#8221;.</p>
<p>Although, I must admit, there is that short-term feel-good moment when I write some little insulting zinger, and others who agree with me &#8220;like&#8221; my comment.  But whenever I do that, I&#39;m just preaching to the choir, and how does that really help anyone on this message board?</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 05:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hearby vote to replace Keith Olbermann with Kathy Kattenberg.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Well..???&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Too bad, MSNBC.  You had something there, with Kattenberg &amp; Maddow taking on the evil righties.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;How&#039;s your voice, Kathy?  Air America seems to be doing well now.  &quot;Air New Jersey, with K-Kat.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hearby vote to replace Keith Olbermann with Kathy Kattenberg.</p>
<p>Well..???</p>
<p>Too bad, MSNBC.  You had something there, with Kattenberg &#038; Maddow taking on the evil righties.</p>
<p>How&#39;s your voice, Kathy?  Air America seems to be doing well now.  &#8220;Air New Jersey, with K-Kat.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: kathykattenburg</title>
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		<dc:creator>kathykattenburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Kathy and MSNBC must have a deal going.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I wish. I could get my monthly SSD check to stretch a lot further that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Kathy and MSNBC must have a deal going.</i></p>
<p>I wish. I could get my monthly SSD check to stretch a lot further that way.</p>
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		<title>By: JeffersonDavis</title>
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		<dc:creator>JeffersonDavis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right MLH.....&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;I&#039;m a tea partier (and also a democrat) and have been against the use of &quot;tea baggers&quot;. It was meant as a marginalization word.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;This is a hoax.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kathy and MSNBC must have a deal going.  Doesn&#039;t need to be true as long as it marginalizes your opponents.&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#39;re right MLH&#8230;..</p>
<p>I&#39;m a tea partier (and also a democrat) and have been against the use of &#8220;tea baggers&#8221;. It was meant as a marginalization word.</p>
<p>This is a hoax.</p>
<p>Kathy and MSNBC must have a deal going.  Doesn&#39;t need to be true as long as it marginalizes your opponents.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/56761/when-a-bad-prayer-goes-good/comment-page-1/#comment-238808</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hal Sparks, who was sitting in for Stephanie Miller this morning, seized on this story, naturally.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Republicans, the &quot;Pray for Death&quot; party...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hal Sparks, who was sitting in for Stephanie Miller this morning, seized on this story, naturally.</p>
<p>Republicans, the &#8220;Pray for Death&#8221; party&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Silhouette</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/56761/when-a-bad-prayer-goes-good/comment-page-1/#comment-238805</link>
		<dc:creator>Silhouette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luke, Chapter 9 &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&quot;1 Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;2 And he sent them to preach the kingdom of God, and to heal the sick.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;3 And he said unto them, Take nothing for your journey, neither staves, nor scrip, neither bread, neither money; neither have two coats apiece.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;4 And whatsoever house ye enter into, there abide, and thence depart.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;5 And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;6 And they departed, and went through the towns, preaching the gospel, and healing every where.&lt;br&gt;***********&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hoax or not.  If you&#039;re &quot;praying&quot; in line with the intent of Jesus then your prayers have more pull [just guessing of course].  If you&#039;re praying to harm someone who wishes to bring healing to the poor and disenfranchised then I imagine not only will your prayers not be answered, they will backfire. [again, just a guess ; ) ]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;over ALL devils&quot;...hmmmm I wonder what the Bible means by that?  I thought there was just one devil but from the looks of things it seems like there can be many of them walking among us.  Wonder who they are...?&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luke, Chapter 9 </p>
<p>&#8220;1 Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases.</p>
<p>2 And he sent them to preach the kingdom of God, and to heal the sick.</p>
<p>3 And he said unto them, Take nothing for your journey, neither staves, nor scrip, neither bread, neither money; neither have two coats apiece.</p>
<p>4 And whatsoever house ye enter into, there abide, and thence depart.</p>
<p>5 And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them.</p>
<p>6 And they departed, and went through the towns, preaching the gospel, and healing every where.<br />***********</p>
<p>Hoax or not.  If you&#39;re &#8220;praying&#8221; in line with the intent of Jesus then your prayers have more pull [just guessing of course].  If you&#39;re praying to harm someone who wishes to bring healing to the poor and disenfranchised then I imagine not only will your prayers not be answered, they will backfire. [again, just a guess ; ) ]</p>
<p>&#8220;over ALL devils&#8221;&#8230;hmmmm I wonder what the Bible means by that?  I thought there was just one devil but from the looks of things it seems like there can be many of them walking among us.  Wonder who they are&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: mlhradio</title>
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		<dc:creator>mlhradio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed - this certainly smells like a prank.  But perhaps the most scary part of this is that it seems *almost* plausible.  Almost.  The obvious giveaway for me is that no Tea Party extremist would refer to themselves as a &quot;tea bag group&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed &#8211; this certainly smells like a prank.  But perhaps the most scary part of this is that it seems *almost* plausible.  Almost.  The obvious giveaway for me is that no Tea Party extremist would refer to themselves as a &#8220;tea bag group&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: DaGoat</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/56761/when-a-bad-prayer-goes-good/comment-page-1/#comment-238778</link>
		<dc:creator>DaGoat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Our small tea bag group here in Waycross, we got our vigil together and took Dr. Coburn’s instructions and prayed real hard that Sen. Byrd would either die or couldn’t show up at the vote the other night.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This has hoax written all over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Our small tea bag group here in Waycross, we got our vigil together and took Dr. Coburn’s instructions and prayed real hard that Sen. Byrd would either die or couldn’t show up at the vote the other night.</i></p>
<p>This has hoax written all over it.</p>
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