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Do You Trust This Man With Your Party?





I don’t. I think moderate politics are brave and world changing.



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9 Responses to “Do You Trust This Man With Your Party?”

  1. M.A. says:

    How is Kos, a former Reagan Republican, a member of the “far-left base?” Can you name a single policy position he advocates that is “far-left?”

    While I don’t always agree with Moulitsas, he is in every possible way a political moderate. He is against the Iraq war but for the war in Afghanistan; advocates that the Democratic party should be less-beholden to single-issue interest groups; supports politicians like pro-gun, budget-balancing Howard Dean and pro-gun, pro-life Harry Reid.

    Even Peter Beinart admitted recently that the Daily Kos and most of its contributors are not far-left. They are angry at what Bush and the Republicans have done to the country, but on every relevant policy position they are moderates. The only thing immoderate about them is some of their rhetoric — but it pales in comparison to the angry, vicious rhetoric “Mainstream” Republicans use every day.

    So spare me the talk of “far left” vs. “moderate majority.” The prominent liberal bloggers, like Kos, Duncan Black, Josh Marshall, Matt Yglesias, John Aravosis, etc. are all part of that moderate majority.

    Yes, they want to rally the base — but the Democratic base is basically moderate, as seen by the way it rallied around policy moderates like Bill Clinton and Howard Dean. And good for them for wanting to rally the base. The Democratic base is large, and it was not motivated to come out to vote in 2002 because the Democrats refused to take a stand against the absurd, immoderate idea of going to war in Iraq. The idea that Democrats win by looking for conservative voters is ludicrous; they must appeal to the moderate base as represented by “angry moderates” like the Kossacks.

  2. Mike P. says:

    Do I trust him with my party? Well, no, no more that I trust any blogger with “my party.” Certainly not to make comparisons, as there are very few, but does the other side trust Malkin, Domenech, “Pamela Shrugs,” etc., etc. with their party?

    Given a forced choice, I’ll take Markos over “the competition” any day, thanks very much.

  3. Dennis Raines says:

    I don’t agree with everythign he says, and I have to at times sift through the partisan hackery (but pales in comparision to many other blogs which better fit the title of “far-left”), but I do find my self agreeing with many issues.

    “Do you turst this man with your party?” He’s not a senator or presidential hopeful, he’s a blogger.

  4. bacci40 says:

    markos is an important voice in the liberal wing of the party.

    should markos make policy? heck no….but he keeps people honest

    and his blog and others have been important in fighting the republican echo machine.

  5. Sundog says:

    Can’t agree. Thank Heavens for Kos.

    “Moderate politics are brave and world-changing”… not sure how you get to either of those conclusions. Moderate politics seem to be getting us nowhere fast.

    And if you actually READ atrios, as I do every day (AND you) you’ll find that you’re really not very far apart.

    Shame on you for this internicene stuff. Are you a Bull Moose in sheep’s clothing or something?

  6. denisedh says:

    I have to agree with Sundog. I read you and Kos every day and find you not very far apart on many issues. I also read RedState. My problem with various comments and posts on both RedState and Kos is the sense that those who disagree with them are somehow flawed, evil, subhuman, America-hating, you know what I mean, fill in the insult. However, these types of sentiments are NOT found in the majority of posts, but when I find them, it’s hard to take the writer’s point seriously.
    What is most frustrating to me about politicians and pundits and some bloggers on all sides is that we have serious problems to address as a nation and we instead focus on searching for some scapegoat to blame rather than working toward solutions. Those who try to work with others who hold differing opinions are seen as weak or disloyal or ideologically impure.

  7. John Bargh says:

    Sorry, but you’re completely wrong. There’s been a concerted campaign amongst the right-wing blogosphere and punditry to tarnish Daily Kos as ‘far left’ because it’s a threat. Well, it isn’t far left. At all. Not a single one of the main-page posters is a radical in any sense of the word. Kos has said repeatedly it is not a leftist blog – it is a Democratic blog.

    Do you know that John Kerry posts there? That JIMMY CARTER posts there? It’s hardly the mirror image of FreeRepublic or something.

    Crap man, are you a Fox News Moderate?

  8. rob says:

    What’s happened to Justin? If you are going to say things like this I think you should provide some specific quotes you think are far left.

    It also seems you are being called on this hit piece just as thoughly here as on Donklephant.

  9. K. Gregory says:

    I read your post and read it on your site. You saw a video you didn’t agree with and don’t think the he should determine the Democrats’ direction. Then on your blog you basically tell people to support centrist blogs like you and not leftist blogs. Do you think that’s going to convince anyone? What you wrote is totally not in keeping with the whole tone of this blog. I don’t see a lot of articles on this going after other people who write on sites like this. A lot of you also quote from people from all over the spectrum. All you’re doing is tainting the image people have of what you write in the future. Because you say I should support a centrist blog like yours and not Kos that means I should? I haven’t seen centerfield run a post like you put here and on your own site. Spare me if I say I won’t bother to visit your site again…and I am indeed a centrist. As Rob says, where are all of your specific quotes? Do you think this is going to make people want to visit your site because if you think so I doubt it. Just reading that someone doesn’t like someone doesn’t make someone want to return. If I was Joe, I’d take a close look at what is posted on his site in the future because he doesn’t ever post anything like that. It’s even a mistake on your own blog unless your idea is to limit yourself to all readers on the internet except the million or so that visit Kos. Joe. Where are you?

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