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		<title>By: dduck12</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/55345/here-come-the-medicare-cuts/comment-page-1/#comment-236396</link>
		<dc:creator>dduck12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 20:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cute.</p>
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		<title>By: christinewithregence</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/55345/here-come-the-medicare-cuts/comment-page-1/#comment-236353</link>
		<dc:creator>christinewithregence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 16:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In all the talk about health care reform, I don&#039;t feel like there&#039;s enough discussion about understanding the real costs of health care. Why don&#039;t we ever know the costs of health care procedures and treatments? ?&quot; I got a kick out of this fun, short video. Check it out. It makes you wonder why our health care system is set up the way it is.&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whatstherealcost.org/45secondstoshare&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.whatstherealcost.org/45secondstoshare&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In all the talk about health care reform, I don&#39;t feel like there&#39;s enough discussion about understanding the real costs of health care. Why don&#39;t we ever know the costs of health care procedures and treatments? ?&#8221; I got a kick out of this fun, short video. Check it out. It makes you wonder why our health care system is set up the way it is.<br /><a href="http://www.whatstherealcost.org/45secondstoshare" rel="nofollow">http://www.whatstherealcost.org/45secondstoshare</a></p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/55345/here-come-the-medicare-cuts/comment-page-1/#comment-236052</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 07:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the Democrats are sprinting down all the wrong roads to find it&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s largely fiscal gimmickry.  (It&#039;s not that they relish robbing Medicare.)  They are appealing to the easily manipulated new prospective class of (new) federal beneficiaries, and are (for now; they&#039;ll remedy what they&#039;re doing later, I&#039;m sure they&#039;re thinking or hoping) robbing existing older program Peter to fund part of exciting new program Paul.  It&#039;s a variant of the &quot;Beame shuffle&quot; (and the temporary[?]-cannibalization and redirection is also similar to Obama&#039;s wanting to shift TARP funds to all kinds of other &quot;good&quot; purposes, notably before next year&#039;s elections.  Would it be surprising if &quot;temporary&quot; &quot;one-time&quot; spending on health care was one of these new &quot;good&quot; purposes, incidentally?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the Democrats are sprinting down all the wrong roads to find it&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#39;s largely fiscal gimmickry.  (It&#39;s not that they relish robbing Medicare.)  They are appealing to the easily manipulated new prospective class of (new) federal beneficiaries, and are (for now; they&#39;ll remedy what they&#39;re doing later, I&#39;m sure they&#39;re thinking or hoping) robbing existing older program Peter to fund part of exciting new program Paul.  It&#39;s a variant of the &#8220;Beame shuffle&#8221; (and the temporary[?]-cannibalization and redirection is also similar to Obama&#39;s wanting to shift TARP funds to all kinds of other &#8220;good&#8221; purposes, notably before next year&#39;s elections.  Would it be surprising if &#8220;temporary&#8221; &#8220;one-time&#8221; spending on health care was one of these new &#8220;good&#8221; purposes, incidentally?).</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/55345/here-come-the-medicare-cuts/comment-page-1/#comment-236051</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 07:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Obama/Pelosi/Reid&#039;s claims that people will not lose Medicare benefits they currently enjoy are just plain false. You can&#039;t cut billions of dollars out of programs and expect them to function the same.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course, and it&#039;s just ridiculous that the Dems actually have their defenders, who believe what they say!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(Oh, well.  Bottom tail of the bell curve has to exist, by definition, in any population...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Obama/Pelosi/Reid&#39;s claims that people will not lose Medicare benefits they currently enjoy are just plain false. You can&#39;t cut billions of dollars out of programs and expect them to function the same.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course, and it&#39;s just ridiculous that the Dems actually have their defenders, who believe what they say!</p>
<p>(Oh, well.  Bottom tail of the bell curve has to exist, by definition, in any population&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: DaGoat</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/55345/here-come-the-medicare-cuts/comment-page-1/#comment-236020</link>
		<dc:creator>DaGoat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 04:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;However, I am sure there are ways to reduce costs wisely and compassionately. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Well, let&#039;s hear them.  What are the wise and compassionate methods that Reid plans to use?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>However, I am sure there are ways to reduce costs wisely and compassionately. </i></p>
<p>Well, let&#39;s hear them.  What are the wise and compassionate methods that Reid plans to use?</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/55345/here-come-the-medicare-cuts/comment-page-1/#comment-236000</link>
		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 02:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Completely agree, AR, and it&#039;s not hard to understand why the politicians behave that way.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What is remarkable though is the extent to which voters follow their lead and can so easily be gamed into the same behavior of switching sides in an argument when it suits their partisan interests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Completely agree, AR, and it&#39;s not hard to understand why the politicians behave that way.</p>
<p>What is remarkable though is the extent to which voters follow their lead and can so easily be gamed into the same behavior of switching sides in an argument when it suits their partisan interests.</p>
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		<title>By: dduck12</title>
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		<dc:creator>dduck12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 23:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on AR.  Appearance certainly goes along with going along.  All I see are lemmings with little baseball hats that say R or D on them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on AR.  Appearance certainly goes along with going along.  All I see are lemmings with little baseball hats that say R or D on them.</p>
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		<title>By: AustinRoth</title>
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		<dc:creator>AustinRoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 23:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is the REAL reality.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Politicians, as a group and a whole, don&#039;t give a damn either way. What they do care about is the appearance of opposing the other side and getting reelected.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They are a classic monopoly - they are one and the same group of people, constantly trading sides in various arguments and disagreements in a manner that would make George Orwell proud (two GO references in one day!), worried only about keeping all others out, and stealing what they can for themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the REAL reality.</p>
<p>Politicians, as a group and a whole, don&#39;t give a damn either way. What they do care about is the appearance of opposing the other side and getting reelected.</p>
<p>They are a classic monopoly &#8211; they are one and the same group of people, constantly trading sides in various arguments and disagreements in a manner that would make George Orwell proud (two GO references in one day!), worried only about keeping all others out, and stealing what they can for themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: VeratheGun</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/55345/here-come-the-medicare-cuts/comment-page-1/#comment-235953</link>
		<dc:creator>VeratheGun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 22:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the reality:  we can&#039;t afford all-you-can-consume health care.  Some things are going to have to be cut.  It&#039;s called facing the music.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Eighty percent of Americans are satisfied with the current system, because, let&#039;s face it, most of &#039;em ain&#039;t paying the bills.  Forty seven percent of Americans don&#039;t even pay any federal income tax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#39;s the reality:  we can&#39;t afford all-you-can-consume health care.  Some things are going to have to be cut.  It&#39;s called facing the music.</p>
<p>Eighty percent of Americans are satisfied with the current system, because, let&#39;s face it, most of &#39;em ain&#39;t paying the bills.  Forty seven percent of Americans don&#39;t even pay any federal income tax.</p>
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		<title>By: D. E.Rodriguez</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/55345/here-come-the-medicare-cuts/comment-page-1/#comment-235926</link>
		<dc:creator>D. E.Rodriguez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not for indiscriminate cuts in Medicare costs. However, I am sure there are ways to reduce costs wisely and compassionately.  But, hey, why are Conservatives crying crocodile tears for a Socialist program such as Medicare?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And here is the &quot;other side of the story::&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt; Much of the debate Saturday focused on what Mr. McCain had said as the Republican presidential candidate in 2008. Democrats said it was odd to see Mr. McCain styling himself as a defender of Medicare because, in the past, he had favored deep cuts.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Mr. Baucus, a principal author of the health care bill, noted that his mother was receiving home health care and said he would not do anything to hurt beneficiaries.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“We are reducing overpayments,” Mr. Baucus said. “We are rooting out fraud. We are getting the waste out. The savings go back in Medicare and extend the solvency of the trust fund.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;NYT, Dec. 7</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not for indiscriminate cuts in Medicare costs. However, I am sure there are ways to reduce costs wisely and compassionately.  But, hey, why are Conservatives crying crocodile tears for a Socialist program such as Medicare?</p>
<p>And here is the &#8220;other side of the story::</p>
<blockquote><p> Much of the debate Saturday focused on what Mr. McCain had said as the Republican presidential candidate in 2008. Democrats said it was odd to see Mr. McCain styling himself as a defender of Medicare because, in the past, he had favored deep cuts.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Mr. Baucus, a principal author of the health care bill, noted that his mother was receiving home health care and said he would not do anything to hurt beneficiaries.</p>
<p>“We are reducing overpayments,” Mr. Baucus said. “We are rooting out fraud. We are getting the waste out. The savings go back in Medicare and extend the solvency of the trust fund.”</p></blockquote>
<p>NYT, Dec. 7</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Dems cut Medicare home health services to fund coverage of uninsured</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Dems cut Medicare home health services to fund coverage of uninsured</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jazz Shaw notes that Democrats used to scream that Republicans wanted to kill seniors through Medicare cuts.  Now &#8230; This became something of a standard talking point during both the 2004 and 2008 presidential elections. As the story went, Democrats cared about seniors and their particular needs. Republicans wanted to cut Medicare and were plotting to kill your grandparents. My, what a difference one election makes, eh? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jazz Shaw notes that Democrats used to scream that Republicans wanted to kill seniors through Medicare cuts.  Now &#8230; This became something of a standard talking point during both the 2004 and 2008 presidential elections. As the story went, Democrats cared about seniors and their particular needs. Republicans wanted to cut Medicare and were plotting to kill your grandparents. My, what a difference one election makes, eh? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: dduck12</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/55345/here-come-the-medicare-cuts/comment-page-1/#comment-235877</link>
		<dc:creator>dduck12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 15:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, a conditional thanks to the Dems that dared to cross the partisan lines, over no-man land, to risk the gas attacks from Harry and company and to try and protect us seniors.  Of course there is fraud in Medicare/Medicaid, but these areas need the weeding, as mentioned above, not the wholesale cuts.  Let&#039;s not throw at grandma with the sitz bath water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, a conditional thanks to the Dems that dared to cross the partisan lines, over no-man land, to risk the gas attacks from Harry and company and to try and protect us seniors.  Of course there is fraud in Medicare/Medicaid, but these areas need the weeding, as mentioned above, not the wholesale cuts.  Let&#39;s not throw at grandma with the sitz bath water.</p>
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		<title>By: Zzzzz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zzzzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 15:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think these cuts are a good first step.  More needs to happen, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think these cuts are a good first step.  More needs to happen, though.</p>
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		<title>By: DaGoat</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaGoat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 14:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually the home health care industry is fraught with waste and abuse, so it&#039;s a good target.  Unfortunately the Democrats solution appears to be just making the pie smaller rather than weeding out the fraud.  They are acting similarly with nursing home payments, which will affect people who are even more helpless than the folks getting home health care.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Obama/Pelosi/Reid&#039;s claims that people will not lose Medicare benefits they currently enjoy are just plain false.  You can&#039;t cut billions of dollars out of programs and expect them to function the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually the home health care industry is fraught with waste and abuse, so it&#39;s a good target.  Unfortunately the Democrats solution appears to be just making the pie smaller rather than weeding out the fraud.  They are acting similarly with nursing home payments, which will affect people who are even more helpless than the folks getting home health care.</p>
<p>Obama/Pelosi/Reid&#39;s claims that people will not lose Medicare benefits they currently enjoy are just plain false.  You can&#39;t cut billions of dollars out of programs and expect them to function the same.</p>
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