Comments on: Little Green Footballs: ‘Why I Parted Ways With The Right’

By: Attention whore Charles Johnson suffering under delustion people still give a shit what he thinks, does or says « docweaselblog

Thu, 03 Dec 2009 08:42:13 +0000

[...] on a subject we’ve covered, but not so bitingly Another Black Conservative takes umbrage “Moderate” voice takes no stand, which it never does unless it can slant a story to the left. Joe Gandelman is only [...]

By: DLS

DLS — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 04:07:48 +0000

“I believe it is Charles who has gone off the rails.”

Anybody who posts that feeble-minded stuff at this late date is not firing well on all cylinders, certainly.

By: kathykattenburg

kathykattenburg — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:25:03 +0000

One may support strong defense capability and its appropriate usage without embracing American Empire. One may believe Bible teachings on sexuality and family without being homophobic or misogynistic. One may think that the current US government has stepped well beyond its Constitutional limits without being anti-government. One may oppose affirmative action and group identity politics without being a racist.

One may, but it's not easy. As the current state of the right demonstrates.

By: jwb7605

jwb7605 — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 19:41:54 +0000

Very well stated, navigator.

I used to consider myself a right wing extremist, only to be mentally destroyed when a liberal friend described me as a thoughtful libertarian.

By: ProfElwood

ProfElwood — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:40:44 +0000

Until we get private money out of campaign finance, we will never get our government back.

Somehow, I have a problem with putting the government in charge of government elections. That's not asking the fox to guard the henhouse, but to run it! I'd far rather limit donations to real (natural) citizens.

By: Andy

Andy — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:01:37 +0000

All I can say is that I hope these party splits result in some real political reform or a third major party. Right now, neither party represents my interests and they seem to put party interests above that of the constituents they are supposed to represent.

By: shannonlee

shannonlee — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 17:13:08 +0000

"Politicians of both parties, and independents, favor it because it helps their campaign funds"

You said it Prof.

Until we get private money out of campaigin finance, we will never get our government back.

By: ProfElwood

ProfElwood — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 15:17:42 +0000

In a corporate lobbied world there is no room for left/right only profit, so anybody who wants to get on board the market driven train is welcome.

Just to clarify, corporate dominance through government is not a true right wing philosophy. The “free” part of a free market requires that no one group gets favored over another. Corporate favoritism is not market driven, nor part of right-wing philosophy. Politicians of both parties, and independents, favor it because it helps their campaign funds.

By: vey9

vey9 — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:55:11 +0000

“These are completely moderate positions, and they are also conservative principles.”

But not conservative “enough.”

By: navigator

navigator — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:37:13 +0000

Having read the LGF view of the “right,” I am left wondering how he ever considered himself conservative. One may support strong defense capability and its appropriate usage without embracing American Empire. One may believe Bible teachings on sexuality and family without being homophobic or misogynistic. One may think that the current US government has stepped well beyond its Constitutional limits without being anti-government. One may oppose affirmative action and group identity politics without being a racist.

These are completely moderate positions, and they are also conservative principles. It seems to me that the LGF post attempts to portray them otherwise.

By: Rudi

Rudi — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 13:59:19 +0000

Instead of attcking Johnson, why not criticize his 10 points. John Cole at BalloonJuice made the same points many years ago. Will Obama fly in his PJ's, back to Moscow, to ignore state jurisdiction to save a brain dead puppy?

By: Charles Johnson ‘Breaks’ From the Right

Charles Johnson ‘Breaks’ From the Right — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 13:37:40 +0000

[...] indeed, as Joe Gandelman points out, Both parties are now showing signs of impending splits, although time will tell how [...]

By: William_Teach

William_Teach — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 12:55:31 +0000

The question to be asked is, what, exactly, is the middle? What do they believe in? I think it would be important for the article to explain what it means, Joe.

By: Jules Crittenden » Charles Johnson Explains The Crazy Hating

Jules Crittenden » Charles Johnson Explains The Crazy Hating — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 12:20:08 +0000

[...] Moderate Voice, taking all that in moderation, examines room for moderate growth. Doesn’t address whether LGF can lay claim to any of that turf. Hateful craziness in defense of loving sanity is no mental illness? [...]

By: DaMav

DaMav — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 11:57:22 +0000

Take heed lest you catch it yourself! (DaMav genuflects furiously)

It means people sometimes change political allegiances. And oft become cranky and cantankerous. Hey, it's not like the evil right wing is threatening to run Ned Lamont against his blog in the next election now, is it?

By: spirasol

spirasol — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 09:08:25 +0000

Wow, is it contagious, DeMav? A negative post written by a negative guy apparently about another negative guy……….but is there anything to it? Is it news? What does it mean for a guy of this stature to resign before the train goes over the cliff?

By: DaMav

DaMav — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 08:21:49 +0000

I believe it is Charles who has gone off the rails. Which is unfortunate because he used to be a very funny guy who made many good points on policy. Whatever happened to him (burnout?) I don't claim to understand but it has turned him into a cranky old guy who spends most of his time viciously attacking anyone who disagrees with him. He's also lost many of his long term posters because he no longer tolerates much in the way of dissent at LGF. It used to be fun; now it's just diatribe of the day toward whoever offended him last. Well, it's his blog and his choice. I'm not going to say any more because it's rather pointless to dwell on someone so negative.

By: BluDog

BluDog — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 07:51:23 +0000

Extremism is never good, but the best ideas don't come from the middle.

By: spirasol

spirasol — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 06:42:38 +0000

I guess I don't agree with at least part of the contention here. The right is off the rails. But the left isn't really that left. The whole political spectrum in my view has shifted so far right, is so far right, that even though we have a demo congress, house, and President………the majority of these policies do not reflect way left thinking even if the right decries it to be “socialist.” So in my view if we move to the left we are actually moving toward the center. In a corporate lobbied world there is no room for left/right only profit, so anybody who wants to get on board the market driven train is welcome. In my view, it is time to ask what kind of democracy we want to live in?