http://ecoseed.org/en/general-green-news/copenh…

Real emissions, real pollution, that is — by all means, subject to cost-benefit analysis, and predicated on the continuation of progress, not perversely halting progress or worse, deliberately retrogressing. That is not what the activists want.

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“Do not insult my intelligence by claiming it if for the betterment of mankind to prevent global warming, global cooling, climate change, or whatever you are calling it this month.”

Unfortunately, the leaked e-mails won't constitute a lesson; rather, this is likely, sadly, to a (bad) motive.

http://copenhagendiagnosis.org/

Incorrect. Critics who know we're quite capable of modifying our environment are sensible as well as honest and rational; typical proponents are completely unrealistic and are in favor of rushing (stupidly) to embrace all kinds of changes to our economy and society no matter how harmful and perverse as well as ineffective or destructive they are or threaten to be.

The politics have always been stronger and bigger than the related, highly-corrupted, science.

The same leftist economic and political (“social”) objectives have been there since the later 1960s and the US-and-West-misdirected “population explosion” hysteria, followed by “the food crisis” and failing harvests and desertification, followed by global cooling, followed by global warming. (The Evil Reagan Administration was also seen as a nuclear-war and militarist threat to the planet, with again the same goals being sought.) The “global warming” (currently hedged by the substitution of the phrase “climate change,” used in a deliberately speculative, albeit anticipatory, as well as vernacular manner) political sub-movement of environmentalism and government interventionism and leftist agenda achievement is simply the latest, biggest in years, excuse (it is somewhat insulting etymologically to say “rationale”).

I consider myself an environmentalist. I know that man can impact his environment through irresponsible industrial and commercial enterprises. We do this on a “micro” scale everywhere man exists on earth. However, to assert that the human race causes the rise and fall in temperatures on earth is not only false, but it is extremely arrogant.

So I have one message to President Obama and the DNC. Do not pee on me and tell me it's raining. If you want to pursue cap and trade and green energy to accomplish your political agenda, then come out and say so. Do not insult my intelligence by claiming it if for the betterment of mankind to prevent global warming, global cooling, climate change, or whatever you are calling it this month.

The earth experiences a natural cycle of warming and cooling as evidenced by geological core samples. The sun also experiences cycles of high and low activity (flares, sunspots). I'm all for green energy as a means to produce dependable and renewable energy. I'm also behind it for national security reasons – as we wouldn't have to bow down to foreign powers to run our economy.

It's a great idea. But please, Mr. President, be honest about this issue. Only then will you save face.

Viewing Obama's effort as directed toward warped objectrives of the far Left, and dispassionately how he might try to “save face” (at the US's and Americans' expense) with the far Left in the developed world (not only the USA), for himself and “for” the USA, he's actually doing more and better than might be the case currently, given what else he is struggling with. Supposedly he's actually planning to be more bold than expected, and even try to commit the USA to something that will make some far Lefties feel good. (The worst extremists won't be satisfied, as they will likely never be satisfied.)

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