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	<title>Comments on: Amnesia and Arrogance On Display in U.S. Aid to Afghan Militias</title>
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		<title>By: kathykattenburg</title>
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		<dc:creator>kathykattenburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 07:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I think it&#039;s unfair to paint Dexter Filkins as a cheerleader who relies on dubious sources to support the war. His work over the past several years and the respect of many liberal analysts suggests that while one may disagree with a particular story, it is highly premature to question his integrity as a reporter.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My take on the body of Dexter Filkins&#039; work is different. I don&#039;t know why you would think that I would say, &quot;Oh, I must be wrong then!&quot; upon hearing that he has &quot;the respect of many liberal analysts.&quot; That in fact does not suggest anything. I base my conclusions about Filkins&#039; writing, and this article in particular, on my own reading and skills of critical analysis, not on &quot;the respect of many liberal analysts.&quot; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Guardian article is indeed sourced with anonymous quotes, just as Filkins&#039; article is, but it also includes a quote from a named source outside the tight little circle of U.S. and Afghan military and government officials that Filkins relies on exclusively to provide his indispensably valuable news analysis.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;With regard to the merits of the program, I have to agree with all those commenters who pointed out that this is the strategy that led to 90% reduction of violence in Iraq.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Actually, 90% of the violence in Iraq had already been reduced by the fact of there being relatively few people left to kill after four years of civil war. All of the ethnic cleansing, sectarian violence, and flight by terrified Iraqis who were of the wrong ethnic and religious background had already been done. Millions of Iraqis were already outside of the country living in places like Syria and Jordan as refugees. The only violence that was left was in and around Baghdad, and to the extent the &quot;surge&quot; reduced that lingering violence, it&#039;s nothing to boast about, since it was Sunni tribal leaders themselves who did it, not the U.S. military. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;You can say all you want about continuing political trouble in Iraq and how if there was no war, there would&#039;ve been no need for a surge.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes, I can; and I do; and I will continue to. You in turn can repeat all you want that it doesn&#039;t matter in the slightest that half of the supposed purpose for the surge was a total failure. You can insist all you want that &quot;reducing the violence dramatically&quot; that was caused in the first place by our ransacking of Iraq and turning it into the ninth circle of Hell is somehow &quot;success&quot; and &quot;victory&quot; but it isn&#039;t either success or victory for anyone other than conservative policy wonks in Washington, D.C., and defense contractors in the slimy, sleazy corporate belt in Arlington, Virginia, and elsewhere. Even more so given that violence is ratcheting up again in Iraq, the central government doesn&#039;t control much of anything and is second only in corruption to Afghanistan, and Al Qaeda in Iraq, which GWB introduced into Iraq, is making a come-back.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;But from the beginning, the debate about the surge was whether it would reduce violence, or make things worse.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;No, the stated purpose of the surge from the beginning was to reduce the level of violence in order to make it possible for Iraq to form a stable government and achieve political reconciliation. That has not happened. What &lt;b&gt;has&lt;/b&gt; happened is that the &quot;surge&quot; has produced some shallow cosmetic changes that don&#039;t amount to a hill of beans in meaningful reality, but in political reality (which is an entirely different reality from meaningful reality) have enabled conservatives, Republicans, and war supporters in the United States to declare victory and issue face-saving declarations that the U.S. is leaving Iraq because we achieved our aims and our job is done there.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;Presumably, we all hope for the same in Afghanistan.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I certainly don&#039;t. After 30 years of continuous war, privation, suffering, torment, and the most appalling violence which has been aided and abetted every step of the way by the United States, my hope is that Afghanistan will soon be free of the catastrophic consequences that always ensue when Americans put their &quot;hopes&quot; for other countries, other peoples, and other governments into action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I think it&#39;s unfair to paint Dexter Filkins as a cheerleader who relies on dubious sources to support the war. His work over the past several years and the respect of many liberal analysts suggests that while one may disagree with a particular story, it is highly premature to question his integrity as a reporter.</i></p>
<p>My take on the body of Dexter Filkins&#39; work is different. I don&#39;t know why you would think that I would say, &#8220;Oh, I must be wrong then!&#8221; upon hearing that he has &#8220;the respect of many liberal analysts.&#8221; That in fact does not suggest anything. I base my conclusions about Filkins&#39; writing, and this article in particular, on my own reading and skills of critical analysis, not on &#8220;the respect of many liberal analysts.&#8221; </p>
<p>The Guardian article is indeed sourced with anonymous quotes, just as Filkins&#39; article is, but it also includes a quote from a named source outside the tight little circle of U.S. and Afghan military and government officials that Filkins relies on exclusively to provide his indispensably valuable news analysis.</p>
<p><i>With regard to the merits of the program, I have to agree with all those commenters who pointed out that this is the strategy that led to 90% reduction of violence in Iraq.</i></p>
<p>Actually, 90% of the violence in Iraq had already been reduced by the fact of there being relatively few people left to kill after four years of civil war. All of the ethnic cleansing, sectarian violence, and flight by terrified Iraqis who were of the wrong ethnic and religious background had already been done. Millions of Iraqis were already outside of the country living in places like Syria and Jordan as refugees. The only violence that was left was in and around Baghdad, and to the extent the &#8220;surge&#8221; reduced that lingering violence, it&#39;s nothing to boast about, since it was Sunni tribal leaders themselves who did it, not the U.S. military. </p>
<p><i>You can say all you want about continuing political trouble in Iraq and how if there was no war, there would&#39;ve been no need for a surge.</i></p>
<p>Yes, I can; and I do; and I will continue to. You in turn can repeat all you want that it doesn&#39;t matter in the slightest that half of the supposed purpose for the surge was a total failure. You can insist all you want that &#8220;reducing the violence dramatically&#8221; that was caused in the first place by our ransacking of Iraq and turning it into the ninth circle of Hell is somehow &#8220;success&#8221; and &#8220;victory&#8221; but it isn&#39;t either success or victory for anyone other than conservative policy wonks in Washington, D.C., and defense contractors in the slimy, sleazy corporate belt in Arlington, Virginia, and elsewhere. Even more so given that violence is ratcheting up again in Iraq, the central government doesn&#39;t control much of anything and is second only in corruption to Afghanistan, and Al Qaeda in Iraq, which GWB introduced into Iraq, is making a come-back.</p>
<p><i>But from the beginning, the debate about the surge was whether it would reduce violence, or make things worse.</i></p>
<p>No, the stated purpose of the surge from the beginning was to reduce the level of violence in order to make it possible for Iraq to form a stable government and achieve political reconciliation. That has not happened. What <b>has</b> happened is that the &#8220;surge&#8221; has produced some shallow cosmetic changes that don&#39;t amount to a hill of beans in meaningful reality, but in political reality (which is an entirely different reality from meaningful reality) have enabled conservatives, Republicans, and war supporters in the United States to declare victory and issue face-saving declarations that the U.S. is leaving Iraq because we achieved our aims and our job is done there.</p>
<p><i>Presumably, we all hope for the same in Afghanistan.</i></p>
<p>I certainly don&#39;t. After 30 years of continuous war, privation, suffering, torment, and the most appalling violence which has been aided and abetted every step of the way by the United States, my hope is that Afghanistan will soon be free of the catastrophic consequences that always ensue when Americans put their &#8220;hopes&#8221; for other countries, other peoples, and other governments into action.</p>
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		<title>By: adesnik</title>
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		<dc:creator>adesnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 21:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathy, I think it&#039;s unfair to paint Dexter Filkins as a cheerleader who relies on dubious sources to support the war.  His work over the past several years and the respect of many liberal analysts suggests that while one may disagree with a particular story, it is highly premature to question his integrity as a reporter.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, one should note that the article you praise in the Guardian is sourced with anonymous quotes from various officials.  In addition, its byline is Kabul, whereas Filkins filed from Achin, where the militia program is actually in operation.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;With regard to the merits of the program, I have to agree with all those commenters who pointed out that this is the strategy that led to 90% reduction of violence in Iraq.  You can say all you want about continuing political trouble in Iraq and how if there was no war, there would&#039;ve been no need for a surge.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But from the beginning, the debate about the surge was whether it would reduce violence, or make things worse.  Obama and almost every Democrat said &quot;worse&quot;.  But instead, violence fell dramatically.  Presumably, we all hope for the same in Afghanistan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathy, I think it&#39;s unfair to paint Dexter Filkins as a cheerleader who relies on dubious sources to support the war.  His work over the past several years and the respect of many liberal analysts suggests that while one may disagree with a particular story, it is highly premature to question his integrity as a reporter.</p>
<p>Also, one should note that the article you praise in the Guardian is sourced with anonymous quotes from various officials.  In addition, its byline is Kabul, whereas Filkins filed from Achin, where the militia program is actually in operation.</p>
<p>With regard to the merits of the program, I have to agree with all those commenters who pointed out that this is the strategy that led to 90% reduction of violence in Iraq.  You can say all you want about continuing political trouble in Iraq and how if there was no war, there would&#39;ve been no need for a surge.</p>
<p>But from the beginning, the debate about the surge was whether it would reduce violence, or make things worse.  Obama and almost every Democrat said &#8220;worse&#8221;.  But instead, violence fell dramatically.  Presumably, we all hope for the same in Afghanistan.</p>
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		<title>By: merkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>merkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am curious if the &quot;surge is a success&quot; crowd is ready to pass judgment on the &quot;fight terrorism by launching conventional war against suspected sponsor states&quot; method. In my humble opinion it has been something of a total disaster.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The total cost is staggering with over 5000 military dead and approaching 2 trillion dollars in lifetime costs, all borrowed. Caused an increase in the number of terrorists and in the number of terrorism incidents when the opposite would seem to be desirable. Not to mention that one of the counties invaded had not sponsored any terrorists, at least until we invaded. Kind of an oops moment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am curious if the &#8220;surge is a success&#8221; crowd is ready to pass judgment on the &#8220;fight terrorism by launching conventional war against suspected sponsor states&#8221; method. In my humble opinion it has been something of a total disaster.</p>
<p>The total cost is staggering with over 5000 military dead and approaching 2 trillion dollars in lifetime costs, all borrowed. Caused an increase in the number of terrorists and in the number of terrorism incidents when the opposite would seem to be desirable. Not to mention that one of the counties invaded had not sponsored any terrorists, at least until we invaded. Kind of an oops moment?</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;bolster the strength of individual states, with a loose federal government (like ours was supposed to be)&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nowadays we have widespread amnesia, ignorance, as well as disdain, contempt, and frequent rejection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;bolster the strength of individual states, with a loose federal government (like ours was supposed to be)&#8221;</p>
<p>Nowadays we have widespread amnesia, ignorance, as well as disdain, contempt, and frequent rejection.</p>
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		<title>By: dduck12</title>
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		<dc:creator>dduck12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very jaded and possibly impractical outlook.  Perhaps protecting our asses is a good substitute for their lack of &quot;valuable resources&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very jaded and possibly impractical outlook.  Perhaps protecting our asses is a good substitute for their lack of &#8220;valuable resources&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Silhouette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silhouette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quick reality check [which are always fun when discussing real solutions to pressing problems]. We will never, N-E-V-E-R extinguish terrorism in Af/Pak. They have no resources for our tycoons to steal either unless yak&#039;s milk is the next new fad. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Ergo....&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Time to leave.&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quick reality check [which are always fun when discussing real solutions to pressing problems]. We will never, N-E-V-E-R extinguish terrorism in Af/Pak. They have no resources for our tycoons to steal either unless yak&#39;s milk is the next new fad. </p>
<p>Ergo&#8230;.</p>
<p>Time to leave.</p>
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		<title>By: kathykattenburg</title>
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		<dc:creator>kathykattenburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well said. There is also the unseemliness of calling the surge a &quot;success&quot; when it was a response to the insurgency that we helped create, and that took tens of thousands of Iraqi lives and dispossessed over two million.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well said. There is also the unseemliness of calling the surge a &#8220;success&#8221; when it was a response to the insurgency that we helped create, and that took tens of thousands of Iraqi lives and dispossessed over two million.</p>
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		<title>By: kathykattenburg</title>
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		<dc:creator>kathykattenburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I just saw a winged pig take flight over my head. :-)</description>
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		<title>By: kathykattenburg</title>
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		<dc:creator>kathykattenburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t say it surprised me, Ron. It does anger me, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#39;t say it surprised me, Ron. It does anger me, though.</p>
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		<title>By: dduck12</title>
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		<dc:creator>dduck12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well hard to judge yet, but it did work in Iraq. Even Obama admitted the success of &quot;the Surge&quot; .&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Good for him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well hard to judge yet, but it did work in Iraq. Even Obama admitted the success of &#8220;the Surge&#8221; .</p>
<p>Good for him.</p>
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		<title>By: merkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>merkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The major components of the surge that worked are we withdrew from 80% of the country and we paid some of the local militias to attack the others. The failure of the surge was its whole rational was to give breathing time for the government of Iraq to come together to unite the country, which never happened. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course without unity the transit gains of the surge will disappear. The fond hope was this wouldn&#039;t happen until we were well clear of the country and wouldn&#039;t be blamed. It looks like we will not make it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The major components of the surge that worked are we withdrew from 80% of the country and we paid some of the local militias to attack the others. The failure of the surge was its whole rational was to give breathing time for the government of Iraq to come together to unite the country, which never happened. </p>
<p>Of course without unity the transit gains of the surge will disappear. The fond hope was this wouldn&#39;t happen until we were well clear of the country and wouldn&#39;t be blamed. It looks like we will not make it.</p>
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		<title>By: dduck12</title>
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		<dc:creator>dduck12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed.</description>
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		<title>By: Don Quijote</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Quijote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You do understand that the &quot;Surge&quot; basically consisted of &lt;a href=&quot;http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2009/06/why-all-the-bombings-in-iraq.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bribing the Sunnis&lt;/a&gt; with weapons so that they would not shoot at us...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You do understand that the &#8220;Surge&#8221; basically consisted of <a href="http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2009/06/why-all-the-bombings-in-iraq.html" rel="nofollow">bribing the Sunnis</a> with weapons so that they would not shoot at us&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DaGoat</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaGoat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to read more, but I would lean towards agreeing with Kathy on this.  The Afghan militias/tribes have little allegiance to anyone except themselves, and any aid we give them could just as easily come back to bite us.  I don&#039;t see this as taking the best strategies from Iraq, but a potentially short-sighted &quot;the enemy of my enemy is my friend&quot; approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;d like to read more, but I would lean towards agreeing with Kathy on this.  The Afghan militias/tribes have little allegiance to anyone except themselves, and any aid we give them could just as easily come back to bite us.  I don&#39;t see this as taking the best strategies from Iraq, but a potentially short-sighted &#8220;the enemy of my enemy is my friend&#8221; approach.</p>
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		<title>By: JeffersonDavis</title>
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		<dc:creator>JeffersonDavis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may actually work better in Afghanistan than it did in Iraq.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Afghanistan has more a more pronounced tribal warlord system.  If you bolster the tribal provinces, you may actually bolster the strength of individual states, with a loose federal government (like ours was supposed to be).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;President Obama is treading lightly for good reason.  It appears he wants to take the best of the strategy of Iraq and incorporate something new instead of carbon-copying our strategy in Iraq.  That&#039;s extremely smart.  I&#039;m proud of the job he is doing thus far as Commander-in-Chief.  At home, not so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may actually work better in Afghanistan than it did in Iraq.  </p>
<p>Afghanistan has more a more pronounced tribal warlord system.  If you bolster the tribal provinces, you may actually bolster the strength of individual states, with a loose federal government (like ours was supposed to be).</p>
<p>President Obama is treading lightly for good reason.  It appears he wants to take the best of the strategy of Iraq and incorporate something new instead of carbon-copying our strategy in Iraq.  That&#39;s extremely smart.  I&#39;m proud of the job he is doing thus far as Commander-in-Chief.  At home, not so much.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well hard to judge yet, but it did work in Iraq.  Even Obama admitted the success of &quot;the Surge&quot; .&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5wKsGzxkiE&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5wKsGzxkiE&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well hard to judge yet, but it did work in Iraq.  Even Obama admitted the success of &#8220;the Surge&#8221; .</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5wKsGzxkiE" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5wKsGzxkiE</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention Amnesia and Arrogance On Display in U.S. Aid to Afghan Militias &#124; The Moderate Voice -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Amnesia and Arrogance On Display in U.S. Aid to Afghan Militias &#124; The Moderate Voice -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 07:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by TMV, Bobby Gonzalez. Bobby Gonzalez said: Amnesia and Arrogance On Display in US Aid to Afghan Militias: The Moderate Voice Dexter Filkins provides a sup.. http://bit.ly/4o1jhu [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by TMV, Bobby Gonzalez. Bobby Gonzalez said: Amnesia and Arrogance On Display in US Aid to Afghan Militias: The Moderate Voice Dexter Filkins provides a sup.. <a href="http://bit.ly/4o1jhu" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/4o1jhu</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Beasley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Beasley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This surprises you?  Amnesia, ignorance and arrogance have been the driving force of US foreign policy since the end of WWII.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This surprises you?  Amnesia, ignorance and arrogance have been the driving force of US foreign policy since the end of WWII.</p>
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