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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/53728/sexual-politics-in-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-232933</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; and by you for charging VTG with being a &quot;troll&quot; (which I thought was a bit over-the-top) &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Well, perhaps so, but after a series of such remarks from Vera with nothing to add but a personal attack on me for a reply it kinda seemed that way.  If I get an apology from Vera, I&#039;ll withdraw the troll remark.  I think thats fair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> and by you for charging VTG with being a &#8220;troll&#8221; (which I thought was a bit over-the-top) </p></blockquote>
<p>Well, perhaps so, but after a series of such remarks from Vera with nothing to add but a personal attack on me for a reply it kinda seemed that way.  If I get an apology from Vera, I&#39;ll withdraw the troll remark.  I think thats fair.</p>
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		<title>By: JSpencer</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/53728/sexual-politics-in-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-232880</link>
		<dc:creator>JSpencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leonidas, my reaction was tirggered by DLS (for his usual, ceaseless idiotic blather) and your use of the word &quot;troll&quot;. Sorry if it seemed as though I was lumping you in with him, but you did pile on and I&#039;m pretty sure VTG was making a reference to anti-choice positioning with regard to the &quot;disdain for women&quot; comment. Btw, there is one person here who truly deserves and has earned the title, &quot;troll&quot;, and yet I&#039;ve never seen you apply the term to him, presumably because he shares an ideology similar to your own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leonidas, my reaction was tirggered by DLS (for his usual, ceaseless idiotic blather) and your use of the word &#8220;troll&#8221;. Sorry if it seemed as though I was lumping you in with him, but you did pile on and I&#39;m pretty sure VTG was making a reference to anti-choice positioning with regard to the &#8220;disdain for women&#8221; comment. Btw, there is one person here who truly deserves and has earned the title, &#8220;troll&#8221;, and yet I&#39;ve never seen you apply the term to him, presumably because he shares an ideology similar to your own.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/53728/sexual-politics-in-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-232858</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; Just a quick correction, this wasn&#039;t a pure Obama Administration report. I make the distinction since it&#039;s very easy to attribute this to President Obama or the HHS director.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fair enough.  Thanks for the correction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> Just a quick correction, this wasn&#39;t a pure Obama Administration report. I make the distinction since it&#39;s very easy to attribute this to President Obama or the HHS director.</p></blockquote>
<p>Fair enough.  Thanks for the correction.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/53728/sexual-politics-in-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-232857</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; Vera, good to see you laugh off the reactions of the first two commenters, since that is exactly the sort response they deserve.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I would have expected better from you.  I might not agree with your politics and opinions, but I would have defended you if someone had made a similar remark towards you, and I would call out any on the Conservative side as well for personal attacks, ask Kathy.  Sorry you can&#039;t bring yourself to do the same, but would rather applaud them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> Vera, good to see you laugh off the reactions of the first two commenters, since that is exactly the sort response they deserve.</p></blockquote>
<p>I would have expected better from you.  I might not agree with your politics and opinions, but I would have defended you if someone had made a similar remark towards you, and I would call out any on the Conservative side as well for personal attacks, ask Kathy.  Sorry you can&#39;t bring yourself to do the same, but would rather applaud them.</p>
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		<title>By: T-Steel</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/53728/sexual-politics-in-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-232829</link>
		<dc:creator>T-Steel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a quick correction, this wasn&#039;t a pure Obama Administration report.  I make the distinction since it&#039;s very easy to attribute this to President Obama or the HHS director.  That&#039;s politics and I would expect nothing more from the opposition party.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But it&#039;s a disservice to all of us to play politics with this issue.  Doctors and insurance DO NOT have to follow these guidelines.  My wife (and ardent Obama supporter) pretty much summed it up:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;I&#039;m going to keep doing breast self-exams regardless of guidelines.  They are only guidelines.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&#039;Nuff said...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick correction, this wasn&#39;t a pure Obama Administration report.  I make the distinction since it&#39;s very easy to attribute this to President Obama or the HHS director.  That&#39;s politics and I would expect nothing more from the opposition party.</p>
<p>But it&#39;s a disservice to all of us to play politics with this issue.  Doctors and insurance DO NOT have to follow these guidelines.  My wife (and ardent Obama supporter) pretty much summed it up:</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#39;m going to keep doing breast self-exams regardless of guidelines.  They are only guidelines.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#39;Nuff said&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ProfElwood</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/53728/sexual-politics-in-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-232828</link>
		<dc:creator>ProfElwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That &lt;em&gt;was&lt;/em&gt; nothing but a personal attack, which contained no comment on the subject itself. I&#039;ve come to expect better of the commenters here at TMV. If you have something to say on the subject, please do so, but the personal attacks don&#039;t advance the conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That <em>was</em> nothing but a personal attack, which contained no comment on the subject itself. I&#39;ve come to expect better of the commenters here at TMV. If you have something to say on the subject, please do so, but the personal attacks don&#39;t advance the conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: JSpencer</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/53728/sexual-politics-in-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-232827</link>
		<dc:creator>JSpencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vera, good to see you laugh off the reactions of the first two commenters, since that is exactly the sort reaction they deserve. In fact it&#039;s the sort of reaction DLS earns here on a regular basis with his continual barrage of adolescent insults and mischaracterizations, but I imagine you&#039;ve discovered that by now. And Leon... &quot;troll&quot;??? Get a grip dude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vera, good to see you laugh off the reactions of the first two commenters, since that is exactly the sort reaction they deserve. In fact it&#39;s the sort of reaction DLS earns here on a regular basis with his continual barrage of adolescent insults and mischaracterizations, but I imagine you&#39;ve discovered that by now. And Leon&#8230; &#8220;troll&#8221;??? Get a grip dude.</p>
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		<title>By: VeratheGun</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/53728/sexual-politics-in-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-232819</link>
		<dc:creator>VeratheGun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL, fellas.  LOL.  Must have hit a nerve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL, fellas.  LOL.  Must have hit a nerve.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/53728/sexual-politics-in-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-232808</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; Vera&#039;s all-but-predictable pathetic lies and slander on this thread.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;d go with nothing but pathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> Vera&#39;s all-but-predictable pathetic lies and slander on this thread.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#39;d go with nothing but pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/53728/sexual-politics-in-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-232807</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; How fascinating that the first two TMV regulars to jump onto this topic are the ones who have demonstrated again and again their disdain for women through their very words here on this forum.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Apology demanded for your false remarks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> How fascinating that the first two TMV regulars to jump onto this topic are the ones who have demonstrated again and again their disdain for women through their very words here on this forum.</p></blockquote>
<p>Apology demanded for your false remarks.</p>
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		<title>By: H1N1: Forced Vaccination A Reality &#124; Warrior Society Radio</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/53728/sexual-politics-in-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-232803</link>
		<dc:creator>H1N1: Forced Vaccination A Reality &#124; Warrior Society Radio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/53728/sexual-politics-in-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-232796</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;democrats tried to play the gender card, but they forgot to inform the administration, and got burned&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The findings are anti-feminist and anti-entitlement-mentality!  Note the BS we&#039;re hearing from them (which resembles Vera&#039;s all-but-predictable pathetic lies and slander on this thread -- awww [sniffle]).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;this report almost strikes me as a distraction on the part of the Obama administration&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m more struck by the sense of irony (see above, which also involves denial of care and rationing) as well as the once-likely-again clumsiness or ineptitude.  Look at the out-of-touch elitists try to recover!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;democrats tried to play the gender card, but they forgot to inform the administration, and got burned&#8221;</p>
<p>The findings are anti-feminist and anti-entitlement-mentality!  Note the BS we&#39;re hearing from them (which resembles Vera&#39;s all-but-predictable pathetic lies and slander on this thread &#8212; awww [sniffle]).</p>
<p>&#8220;this report almost strikes me as a distraction on the part of the Obama administration&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#39;m more struck by the sense of irony (see above, which also involves denial of care and rationing) as well as the once-likely-again clumsiness or ineptitude.  Look at the out-of-touch elitists try to recover!</p>
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		<title>By: Almoderate</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/53728/sexual-politics-in-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-232793</link>
		<dc:creator>Almoderate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, this report almost strikes me as a distraction on the part of the Obama administration-- and a good one.  The one thing that they aren&#039;t talking about are the things that are actually in the bill (or not in the bill).  So the Dems can focus on passing the bill they want while the GOP is busy being outraged at language that doesn&#039;t exist.  They could even pass an amendment requiring screening at 40 or 35, which you won&#039;t see any real opposition to from either party, and meanwhile none of the real things that the Dems want are really touched.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If in fact, that&#039;s what they&#039;re doing, I&#039;d say it&#039;s a brilliant strategy.  Have a group that isn&#039;t exactly making policy come out with the looniest statement they possibly can that is just close enough to being believable, and then let the opposition latch onto that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, this report almost strikes me as a distraction on the part of the Obama administration&#8211; and a good one.  The one thing that they aren&#39;t talking about are the things that are actually in the bill (or not in the bill).  So the Dems can focus on passing the bill they want while the GOP is busy being outraged at language that doesn&#39;t exist.  They could even pass an amendment requiring screening at 40 or 35, which you won&#39;t see any real opposition to from either party, and meanwhile none of the real things that the Dems want are really touched.</p>
<p>If in fact, that&#39;s what they&#39;re doing, I&#39;d say it&#39;s a brilliant strategy.  Have a group that isn&#39;t exactly making policy come out with the looniest statement they possibly can that is just close enough to being believable, and then let the opposition latch onto that.</p>
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		<title>By: VeratheGun</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/53728/sexual-politics-in-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-232772</link>
		<dc:creator>VeratheGun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How fascinating that the first two TMV regulars to jump onto this topic are the ones who have demonstrated again and again their disdain for women through their very words here on this forum.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We&#039;ve seen their true feelings on the subject--and they certainly don&#039;t demonstrate any sympathy toward the concerns or problems women face in our society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How fascinating that the first two TMV regulars to jump onto this topic are the ones who have demonstrated again and again their disdain for women through their very words here on this forum.</p>
<p>We&#39;ve seen their true feelings on the subject&#8211;and they certainly don&#39;t demonstrate any sympathy toward the concerns or problems women face in our society.</p>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention Sexual Politics in Health Care &#124; The Moderate Voice -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Sexual Politics in Health Care &#124; The Moderate Voice -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/53728/sexual-politics-in-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-232762</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So democrats tried to play the gender card, but they forgot to inform the administration, and got burned, when the Obama administration tried to tell women to wait to 50 for preventative mammograms.  That whole, paint the GOP as hostile to women&#039;s health issues just went flying out the window.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/4499/39787342.gif&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/4499/3978734...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So democrats tried to play the gender card, but they forgot to inform the administration, and got burned, when the Obama administration tried to tell women to wait to 50 for preventative mammograms.  That whole, paint the GOP as hostile to women&#39;s health issues just went flying out the window.</p>
<p><a href="http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/4499/39787342.gif" rel="nofollow">http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/4499/3978734&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/53728/sexual-politics-in-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-232759</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This is how rationing begins&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As usual, you missed the point, though Blackburn didn&#039;t.  I&#039;m not surprised to see this fact exploited by the critics, and wondered days ago how long it would be until Blackburn (who moved to do this days earlier) was joined by, say, Bachmann and Palin.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(&quot;Proceeding&quot; backward to rely on the likes of parrot-placeholder-bureaucrat Sebelius hardly helps.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is how rationing begins&#8221;</p>
<p>As usual, you missed the point, though Blackburn didn&#39;t.  I&#39;m not surprised to see this fact exploited by the critics, and wondered days ago how long it would be until Blackburn (who moved to do this days earlier) was joined by, say, Bachmann and Palin.</p>
<p>(&#8220;Proceeding&#8221; backward to rely on the likes of parrot-placeholder-bureaucrat Sebelius hardly helps.)</p>
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