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		<title>By: roro80</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/53569/return-of-the-election-beast-from-ny-23/comment-page-1/#comment-232642</link>
		<dc:creator>roro80</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have anything interesting to say about the race that hasn&#039;t already been said, but I did want to give you props for the picture you chose for the &quot;Election Beast&quot;.  Totally giggle-inducing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t have anything interesting to say about the race that hasn&#39;t already been said, but I did want to give you props for the picture you chose for the &#8220;Election Beast&#8221;.  Totally giggle-inducing!</p>
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		<title>By: merkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>merkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NY-23 went for Obama with a margin of 5%. That Owens won is no miracle nor did it require the implosion of his opponents. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The virus problems of the voting machines is somewhat less serious than the 2000 date problem, which is to say not a problem. It is easy to tell if the virus would interfere with the voting function of the machine. Most likely it is the same type of virus that infects the computer you are reading this on right now, the one waiting to pop up a gay porn site the next time you play the MP3 of &quot;I Left My Heart in San Fransisco&quot;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The flaw in the electronic voting machine system had to do with the handling of the vote totals after they were uploaded from the machine, not with the machines themselves. Electronic data verification, properly done, is much more rigorous than any paper trail.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;ACORN registers voters in urban, minority areas. This doesn&#039;t come close to describing any part of NY-23. ACORN has never been associated with a case of vote fraud. They submitted fraudulent voters registration forms collected by their people because they are required to by law. The reason we know they did was because they pointed out the fraudulent registration to the agencies so the registrations would not be accepted. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The 2000 voter fraud in Florida involved kicking tens of thousands of legitimate voters off of the voter rolls in opposition heavy precincts based on a simple matching of voters names against a list of convicted felons without checking to see if they were the same people. This fraud involved the state governments of Texas and Florida. A fraud like this is an order of magnitude above what someone like ACORN could pull off. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;These are all kool aid folks.  In other words, nothing to see here, move along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NY-23 went for Obama with a margin of 5%. That Owens won is no miracle nor did it require the implosion of his opponents. </p>
<p>The virus problems of the voting machines is somewhat less serious than the 2000 date problem, which is to say not a problem. It is easy to tell if the virus would interfere with the voting function of the machine. Most likely it is the same type of virus that infects the computer you are reading this on right now, the one waiting to pop up a gay porn site the next time you play the MP3 of &#8220;I Left My Heart in San Fransisco&#8221;.</p>
<p>The flaw in the electronic voting machine system had to do with the handling of the vote totals after they were uploaded from the machine, not with the machines themselves. Electronic data verification, properly done, is much more rigorous than any paper trail.  </p>
<p>ACORN registers voters in urban, minority areas. This doesn&#39;t come close to describing any part of NY-23. ACORN has never been associated with a case of vote fraud. They submitted fraudulent voters registration forms collected by their people because they are required to by law. The reason we know they did was because they pointed out the fraudulent registration to the agencies so the registrations would not be accepted. </p>
<p>The 2000 voter fraud in Florida involved kicking tens of thousands of legitimate voters off of the voter rolls in opposition heavy precincts based on a simple matching of voters names against a list of convicted felons without checking to see if they were the same people. This fraud involved the state governments of Texas and Florida. A fraud like this is an order of magnitude above what someone like ACORN could pull off. </p>
<p>These are all kool aid folks.  In other words, nothing to see here, move along.</p>
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		<title>By: Jazz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed, Sammy. I didn&#039;t say you thought that. I simply mentioned that you quoted Hoffman so that people could go read your article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, Sammy. I didn&#39;t say you thought that. I simply mentioned that you quoted Hoffman so that people could go read your article.</p>
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		<title>By: Sammy Benoit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sammy Benoit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jazz I don&#039;t think it was a conspiracy--after the Hoffman Quote blaming ACORN.    I say: &lt;br&gt;To be honest this sound more like an example of that old adage, &quot;To Err is Human, but to Really Screw Things up you need a computer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jazz I don&#39;t think it was a conspiracy&#8211;after the Hoffman Quote blaming ACORN.    I say: <br />To be honest this sound more like an example of that old adage, &#8220;To Err is Human, but to Really Screw Things up you need a computer.</p>
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		<title>By: StockBoySF</title>
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		<dc:creator>StockBoySF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...a computer virus reportedly infected a handful of machines in Hamilton County.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Exactly why we need a paper trail at the ballot box.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;a computer virus reportedly infected a handful of machines in Hamilton County.&#8221;</p>
<p>Exactly why we need a paper trail at the ballot box.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I explained the similarity to 2000 correctly some time earlier -- as well as point out this is like Minnesota.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I explained the similarity to 2000 correctly some time earlier &#8212; as well as point out this is like Minnesota.</p>
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		<title>By: norlight</title>
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		<dc:creator>norlight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t count out Bill Owens to win again in 2010 in NY-23.  First, the region is trending Democratic. Second, the union vote has been part of the winning REPUBLICAN coalition for two decades. If it has swung solidly to the Democrats there are over 80,000 union households in the district. Third, if the popular Andrew Cuomo runs for Governor, Bill Owens may ride his coat talls.  Fourth, NY-23 voters support the person and steady, calm Bill Owens may impress the region&#039;s voters.  Did I mention he is a vet, which goes well in region where many people have served and sacrificed in military service.  Fifth, leaders who win special elections have a good chance of winning next time. State Senator Darryl Aubertine won a traditionally Republican seat in a special election and won again 10month later. Sixth, there has been a backlash against all the unwanted attention from outside money and big name party types. If Bill Owen is perceived as &quot;one of us&quot; a year from now, he will be re-elected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#39;t count out Bill Owens to win again in 2010 in NY-23.  First, the region is trending Democratic. Second, the union vote has been part of the winning REPUBLICAN coalition for two decades. If it has swung solidly to the Democrats there are over 80,000 union households in the district. Third, if the popular Andrew Cuomo runs for Governor, Bill Owens may ride his coat talls.  Fourth, NY-23 voters support the person and steady, calm Bill Owens may impress the region&#39;s voters.  Did I mention he is a vet, which goes well in region where many people have served and sacrificed in military service.  Fifth, leaders who win special elections have a good chance of winning next time. State Senator Darryl Aubertine won a traditionally Republican seat in a special election and won again 10month later. Sixth, there has been a backlash against all the unwanted attention from outside money and big name party types. If Bill Owen is perceived as &#8220;one of us&#8221; a year from now, he will be re-elected.</p>
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		<title>By: About house race, doug hoffman, conservative, election &#124; Find me About</title>
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		<dc:creator>About house race, doug hoffman, conservative, election &#124; Find me About</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Just when you thought it was safe to step out of the ballot booth, the hotly contested special election in New York&#8217;s 23rd Congressional District simply will not die. The latest ripple in the story is that a computer virus reportedly infected a handful &#8230;Read Original Story: Return of the Election Beast from NY-23 &#8211; The Moderate Voice [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Just when you thought it was safe to step out of the ballot booth, the hotly contested special election in New York&#8217;s 23rd Congressional District simply will not die. The latest ripple in the story is that a computer virus reportedly infected a handful &#8230;Read Original Story: Return of the Election Beast from NY-23 &#8211; The Moderate Voice [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rambie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rambie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, doesn&#039;t this sound familiar?   The shoe really is on the other foot now, this is almost the mirror image of election 2000. Both parties are just showing they are coming unglued from reality and more interested in partisan than truly leading this country.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m still hoping (probably in vain) for a viable third party made of moderates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, doesn&#39;t this sound familiar?   The shoe really is on the other foot now, this is almost the mirror image of election 2000. Both parties are just showing they are coming unglued from reality and more interested in partisan than truly leading this country.  </p>
<p>I&#39;m still hoping (probably in vain) for a viable third party made of moderates.</p>
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