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Dealing With Conscience-Driven Joe

The Democrats would seem to have two problems with Senator Joe Lieberman. The immediate one is his threat to put the kibosh on the party’s signature issue, health care, as a matter of conscience. The longer term threat is that Joe will bolt the party and the Dems will lose their 60 vote, veto-proof majority in the Senate.

The fact is, however, that the first problem is actually the solution to the second problem.

Joe is no longer a Democrat. He lost the party’s primary in Connecticut and then ran as an Independent. He then went on the support John McCain in the 2008 presidential election. The Dems now allow him to caucus with them anyway, to keep his prestigious post as head of Homeland Security committee and enjoy other party-in-power perks, because they expected him to go along on very important legislation. Like the health care bill.

But Joe can’t do it. He’s a man of conscience, he claims, and his conscience tells him it would be wrong to back the Dems on health care — the party that took him back when he begged to be taken back to enjoy all those governing party goodies.

Which brings us to the question of what happens after the health care issue is played out in the Senate. Would that 60 vote, veto-proof majority vanish for other important issues if the Dems throw Joe out of their caucus and deprive him of its associated perks? Might he become a Republican?

Not to worry. The Republicans might not have him because Joe’s long standing, conscience-based positions on issues such as climate change and abortion (all decisions are conscience-based for a man of conscience like Joe) go against that monolithic party’s credo. Even if Joe is accepted in the Republican fold, however, it won’t change his Democratic leanings on these other key issues. That’s because Joe as a man of conscience would never go along with Republicans just to be a good party man, any more than he’s doing now with the Dems and health care.

This man of conscience would thus continue to vote for Democratic Party issues even without being part of the party and receiving its benefits. Otherwise Joe’s present stance vis-a-vis health care would clearly, obviously, and undeniably be nothing but self-serving, attention grabbing hypocrisy.

And that couldn’t be the case. Could it?

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  • lurxst
    Hmm Joe's received about $1,037,402 from the health insurance industry, that couldn't be influencing his conscience could it?
    http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary.p...


    Or maybe its just his burning desire to remain relevant.
    http://blogs.courant.com/capitol_watch/2009/10/...

    Or maybe its because his wife sits on the board of directors for Wellpoint.




  • JSpencer
    I'm waiting for an announcement of a Lieberman/Palin ticket for 2012! Or is it Palin/Lieberman???
  • Leonidas
    Hmm Joe's received about $1,037,402 from the health insurance industry, that couldn't be influencing his conscience could it?


    Interesting that of the ten names above him 9 are democrats. I don't recall any democrats saying that about those names above Joe's much.

    Also note you selected All cycles, that goes back to include when he was a candidate for president and vice president. Select 2008-2010 and what do we get?
    http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary.p...
    2010 Lieberman, Joe (I-CT) $5,500
    http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary.p...
    2008 Zero

    You really don't have anything much to support your claims it seems.

    Here is the over $100,000 club for the 2010 cycle

    Schumer, Charles E (D-NY) $188,100
    Dodd, Chris (D-CT) $137,250
    Grassley, Chuck (R-IA) $125,450
    Lincoln, Blanche (D-AR) $112,550
    Reid, Harry (D-NV) $106,500
  • Leonidas
    I'm waiting for an announcement of a Lieberman/Palin ticket for 2012! Or is it Palin/Lieberman???


    And Rush Limbaugh is waiting on an Arlen Specter/ Pelosi ticket.

    *shrug*
  • AST
    60 is not a veto-proof majority. That would take 67 votes. 60 is, however, a filibuster-proof majority.
  • DLS
    Obscession with Lieberman and hatred of his non-conformality, from the far Left? No surprise.

    Never mind the real issue, which is to look past one person and determine how to get most if not all of the Dems in the Senate to agree on what they want in health care "reform" legislation before conference with the House.

    What are they going to do about the public option?

    They aren't going to let militant left-fringe pro-abortion entitlement demanders wreck everything, are they?
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