Comments on: America’s ‘Black Knights’ and the Fort Hood Tragedy: Dar Al Khaleej, United Arab Emirates

By: dduck12

dduck12 — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:14:26 +0000

Agreed.

By: spirasol

spirasol — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:42:50 +0000

Most of what I read about the Jews is written by Jews. They write about the holocaust industry, victim consciousness, knee-jerk anti-semitism. I just read a very informative article which differentiates Zionism from Jewishness. Most of these authors are referred to defensively as “self-hating Jews.” How can there be any dialog if any and every negative view of Israel is automatically redirected to the area of antisemitism. These are impossible conditions to have a discussion about anything.

By: JeffersonDavis

JeffersonDavis — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 02:25:51 +0000

You have to realize one important fact here, everyone.

Arabs do not "hate" Jews, per se. I've lived among Sunnis and Shia. I have had long long talks on this very subject.

The main problem here is perspective.
The pan-Arab perspective: In 1948, Palestinians were illegally kicked out of their home and it was given to foreigners - Eurasian Jews.

The Jewish/American perspective: Israel was created after Hitler innihalated 6 millions Jews and Palestine, after all, is the land promised to them by God.

Now, I ask you. Which of those perspectives is pragmatic and which is not?

It is my solemn opinion that the UN screwed up in 1948 by giving a group land which did not belong to them. Does that make me anti-semitic? No. This is a political issue, not one of ethnicity or faith.

I'm not sure of the nuances in 1948 - I wasn't there. But I do know that kicking one group out of a nation and installing another is wrong.

My point?
The arabs/muslims have a legitimate gripe. Palestine has been the basis for just about every instance of terrorism. We will make no headway until it is addressed. This has been going on for over 60 years and did not begin on 9/11.

By: dduck12

dduck12 — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:51:45 +0000

At least you are not verbose (unusual for this forum). I found the references to Jews to be offensive even in the coached way they were portrayed and I did not like the the Nazi reference. Call me paranoid but I detected some underlying anti-semitisim.

By: Father_Time

Father_Time — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:39:51 +0000

Yeah. What?

By: dduck12

dduck12 — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:33:44 +0000

Really?

By: Father_Time

Father_Time — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:37:27 +0000

I'm trying to figure out what the heck the duck is offended at.

By: JSpencer

JSpencer — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:54:24 +0000

Could have been Kern or one of the 4 links. Since your post wasn't a direct reply I was just looking for clarity. I've learned not to assume anything when it comes to political forums.

By: dduck12

dduck12 — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:46:07 +0000

Ther was only one comment on this subject: Sil

By: JSpencer

JSpencer — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:52:09 +0000

dd, could be more clear about who you are responding to and why?

By: dduck12

dduck12 — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:07:47 +0000

You ought to try a new bedfellow, one that could some sense in your head. And, don't respond by making some anti-Semitic remark, I am an agnostic and never was Jewish.
BTW: A funny film, which you would squirm through is “A Serious Man”. But then you would need a tolerant psyche and a sense a humor.

By: Silhouette

Silhouette — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:41:37 +0000

a conspiracy directed by the “extremist right-wing Jewish-American alliance,”
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Well the "black" part is right of the "black knights" inasmuch as the binding agent between those in the US who buddy around with Israelis is oil. Google the Haifa pipeline when you get a minute.

"Blackwater"..etc. You gotta hand it to them. They're having fun with the vernacular right before our eyes..

If it wasn't for the oil, 9/10s of the US side of that allegiance would have nothing to do with Israel. Most of the good old boys Stateside who pat their jewish buddies on the back during the day are fraternizing with quasi-nazi groups by night. This isn't news to those "jews" in power in israel. Money makes strange bedfellows indeed.