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	<title>Comments on: If War Breaks Out, Venezuela&#8217;s &#8216;Fifth Column&#8217; Will Have to Be Confronted: El Universal, Venezuela</title>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baby Huey&#039;s propensity for mischief in Latin America isn&#039;t surprising in the least to the aware and awake.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for suppressing the media, Team Obama already has flirted with demanding &quot;fidelity&quot; Or Else already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baby Huey&#39;s propensity for mischief in Latin America isn&#39;t surprising in the least to the aware and awake.</p>
<p>As for suppressing the media, Team Obama already has flirted with demanding &#8220;fidelity&#8221; Or Else already.</p>
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		<title>By: D. E.Rodriguez</title>
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		<dc:creator>D. E.Rodriguez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coming from a hemisphere where saber rattling is a national passion, let&#039;s hope that this is in keeping with that---just saber rattling</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coming from a hemisphere where saber rattling is a national passion, let&#39;s hope that this is in keeping with that&#8212;just saber rattling</p>
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		<title>By: Father_Time</title>
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		<dc:creator>Father_Time</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, you need to grow up and stop calling people names. Especially when they apply more to you than anybody else here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, you need to grow up and stop calling people names. Especially when they apply more to you than anybody else here.</p>
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		<title>By: EEllis</title>
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		<dc:creator>EEllis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Oh tell us all about it there Ms.&quot;offencive&quot;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tell us how you are not truly ignorant.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;wow&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ignorant, because my spellchecker didn&#039;t catch a misspelled word? Get real. And it&#039;s not Ms and to attempt to use it as an insult like that, not that it bothers me, really shows your limited character doesn&#039;t it? From your previous statements we have already seen that facts are redundant to your worldview. Do you plan on showing more of your ass? Personally I could do without.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Oh tell us all about it there Ms.&#8221;offencive&#8221;.</p>
<p>Tell us how you are not truly ignorant.</p>
<p>wow&#8221;</p>
<p>Ignorant, because my spellchecker didn&#39;t catch a misspelled word? Get real. And it&#39;s not Ms and to attempt to use it as an insult like that, not that it bothers me, really shows your limited character doesn&#39;t it? From your previous statements we have already seen that facts are redundant to your worldview. Do you plan on showing more of your ass? Personally I could do without.</p>
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		<title>By: Father_Time</title>
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		<dc:creator>Father_Time</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh tell us all about it there Ms.&quot;offencive&quot;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tell us how you are not truly ignorant.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;wow</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh tell us all about it there Ms.&#8221;offencive&#8221;.</p>
<p>Tell us how you are not truly ignorant.</p>
<p>wow</p>
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		<title>By: spirasol</title>
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		<dc:creator>spirasol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why Father Time, and they said protest was blase&#039;, that no one was listening.....&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I guess I shoulda/oughta deliver my complaint from my knees, scribbled on a piece blood soiled paper, but I would rather stand at the top of the waterfall and hear my own echos bouncing off the walls of the ravine.  There is a futility to it, no?  The ego frothing up and over the sides like a tall toxic ice cream soda.  I&#039;m 18.  You are a woman and you catch me flexing my muscles in the mirror. It feels good to hear the echo, to know someone is listening, watching........I unbutton my top buttons to show a little more............</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why Father Time, and they said protest was blase&#39;, that no one was listening&#8230;..</p>
<p>I guess I shoulda/oughta deliver my complaint from my knees, scribbled on a piece blood soiled paper, but I would rather stand at the top of the waterfall and hear my own echos bouncing off the walls of the ravine.  There is a futility to it, no?  The ego frothing up and over the sides like a tall toxic ice cream soda.  I&#39;m 18.  You are a woman and you catch me flexing my muscles in the mirror. It feels good to hear the echo, to know someone is listening, watching&#8230;&#8230;..I unbutton my top buttons to show a little more&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: spirasol</title>
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		<dc:creator>spirasol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, FT, might be a little country-centric in the sense of maintaining an attitude of other countries existing to serve us, our needs, but I would hardly call the names you are using to describe FT accurate. He is just being selfishly and pragmatically American, -- which is by the way the position of our government. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for the drug smugglers, I wonder what country is on the consumption side of the equation?  Venezuelans?  I doubt it.  I&#039;m too lazy to do your research for you, but it has been known for a long time that the war on drugs is a total failure and corrupts everyone involved.  Maybe Chavez wants to irritate the Columbian President, and maybe he takes a little cut, but compared to the cuts taken by the country that works to both destroy AND to supply the drugs (USA), I believe it is a very small portion indeed.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Finally if you are really interested in drugs........do not look to Columbia......who market cocaine, what is often called the &quot;rich man&#039;s drug.   It is Afghanistan.....stripped of most other means of making money, the war lords are supplying all of Europe and likely the USA with poppies, Afgani heroin is said to be of high quality and abundant.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Besides, the whole issue of stopping Columbian drug exports, is not the real issue anyway.  Read below:   &quot;Pentagon budget document that expresses clear regional intentions for the Palanquero air base. The document describes the U.S. presence in Palanquero as an &quot;opportunity for conducting full spectrum operations throughout South America,&quot; and confirms the fears of Colombia&#039;s neighbors when it discusses the possibility of using the base to confront the &quot;threat&quot; of what it calls &quot;anti-U.S. governments.&quot;   Here the full link &lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/11/11-4&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/11/11-4&lt;/a&gt;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I want to say too, that knee-jerk anti-Chavism doesn&#039;t really makes sense........spreading lies about Chavez, and for that matter all the other South American countries that have rejected Neo-liberal policies and chose to finally reject long standing American military bases in their countries.  These countries no longer want to be neo-colonies for the USA.  They already tried that, it didn&#039;t work,  was unfair to their populations, and was the underlying cause for so many political deaths-- witness Chili, El Salvador, etc. etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, FT, might be a little country-centric in the sense of maintaining an attitude of other countries existing to serve us, our needs, but I would hardly call the names you are using to describe FT accurate. He is just being selfishly and pragmatically American, &#8212; which is by the way the position of our government. </p>
<p>As for the drug smugglers, I wonder what country is on the consumption side of the equation?  Venezuelans?  I doubt it.  I&#39;m too lazy to do your research for you, but it has been known for a long time that the war on drugs is a total failure and corrupts everyone involved.  Maybe Chavez wants to irritate the Columbian President, and maybe he takes a little cut, but compared to the cuts taken by the country that works to both destroy AND to supply the drugs (USA), I believe it is a very small portion indeed.  </p>
<p>Finally if you are really interested in drugs&#8230;&#8230;..do not look to Columbia&#8230;&#8230;who market cocaine, what is often called the &#8220;rich man&#39;s drug.   It is Afghanistan&#8230;..stripped of most other means of making money, the war lords are supplying all of Europe and likely the USA with poppies, Afgani heroin is said to be of high quality and abundant.</p>
<p>Besides, the whole issue of stopping Columbian drug exports, is not the real issue anyway.  Read below:   &#8220;Pentagon budget document that expresses clear regional intentions for the Palanquero air base. The document describes the U.S. presence in Palanquero as an &#8220;opportunity for conducting full spectrum operations throughout South America,&#8221; and confirms the fears of Colombia&#39;s neighbors when it discusses the possibility of using the base to confront the &#8220;threat&#8221; of what it calls &#8220;anti-U.S. governments.&#8221;   Here the full link &lt;<a href="http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/11/11-4" rel="nofollow">http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/11/11-4</a>&gt;</p>
<p>I want to say too, that knee-jerk anti-Chavism doesn&#39;t really makes sense&#8230;&#8230;..spreading lies about Chavez, and for that matter all the other South American countries that have rejected Neo-liberal policies and chose to finally reject long standing American military bases in their countries.  These countries no longer want to be neo-colonies for the USA.  They already tried that, it didn&#39;t work,  was unfair to their populations, and was the underlying cause for so many political deaths&#8211; witness Chili, El Salvador, etc. etc.</p>
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		<title>By: EEllis</title>
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		<dc:creator>EEllis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Venezuela has oil, what the hell does &quot;Columbia&quot; have?? Dope?!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is an opportunity to clean out these corrupt pirates!&#039;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Wow that&#039;s arrogant, offencive, and truly ignorant. The big drug smugglers in Columbia are the so called &quot;rebels&quot; who have long since become purely money making machines.  You know the ones that Chavez has seen fit to allow sanctuary across Venezuela&#039;s borders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Venezuela has oil, what the hell does &#8220;Columbia&#8221; have?? Dope?!</p>
<p>This is an opportunity to clean out these corrupt pirates!&#39;</p>
<p>Wow that&#39;s arrogant, offencive, and truly ignorant. The big drug smugglers in Columbia are the so called &#8220;rebels&#8221; who have long since become purely money making machines.  You know the ones that Chavez has seen fit to allow sanctuary across Venezuela&#39;s borders.</p>
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		<title>By: Father_Time</title>
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		<dc:creator>Father_Time</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why Spirasol, your sedition is showing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why Spirasol, your sedition is showing.</p>
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		<title>By: spirasol</title>
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		<dc:creator>spirasol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 06:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how the USA would react if we cut a deal with a neighboring land to allow us (call us the alien fringe) to build and supply 7 military bases.  From there we would promise to elevate our host country to odious prominence and harass all the other countries in the region.  Yet another failed democracy propped up by your tax dollars, ladies and gentleman.  Of coarse this does involve our strategic interests, also known as our ability to get our corporations and way of life inserted into other countries.  Why?  because that is what the world wants-- to be just like us.  right?  Wrong!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;WAIT, is that not history repeating itself?  Cuba?  The Russians? All this under the guise of the lost leader, namely the pitifully fought and failed war on Drugs.  Let us pray that not everyone in Columbia is not addicted to USA money and unwilling to go on the American dole.  Let us pray too that many will join the all night meetings as they whisper in the dim light of their country becoming an American base from which to launch war against so many other latin brothers and sisters.  You can bet the discussions about how to fight back are already underway............</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how the USA would react if we cut a deal with a neighboring land to allow us (call us the alien fringe) to build and supply 7 military bases.  From there we would promise to elevate our host country to odious prominence and harass all the other countries in the region.  Yet another failed democracy propped up by your tax dollars, ladies and gentleman.  Of coarse this does involve our strategic interests, also known as our ability to get our corporations and way of life inserted into other countries.  Why?  because that is what the world wants&#8211; to be just like us.  right?  Wrong!</p>
<p>WAIT, is that not history repeating itself?  Cuba?  The Russians? All this under the guise of the lost leader, namely the pitifully fought and failed war on Drugs.  Let us pray that not everyone in Columbia is not addicted to USA money and unwilling to go on the American dole.  Let us pray too that many will join the all night meetings as they whisper in the dim light of their country becoming an American base from which to launch war against so many other latin brothers and sisters.  You can bet the discussions about how to fight back are already underway&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Father_Time</title>
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		<dc:creator>Father_Time</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 06:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait a minute here......you people think we should be defending Columbia?&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;We defend Venezuela I should think!&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Venezuela has oil, what the hell does &quot;Columbia&quot; have?? Dope?!&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;This is an opportunity to clean out these corrupt pirates!&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait a minute here&#8230;&#8230;you people think we should be defending Columbia?</p>
<p>We defend Venezuela I should think!</p>
<p>Venezuela has oil, what the hell does &#8220;Columbia&#8221; have?? Dope?!</p>
<p>This is an opportunity to clean out these corrupt pirates!</p>
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		<title>By: Oscar Paz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oscar Paz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the unlikely event that a war between Colombia and Venezuela broke out, the now very comfortable Venezuelan Military Forces (Upper Ranks) would be forced to put their money where their mouth is: &quot;Patria, Socialismo o Muerte&quot; (&quot;Country, Socialism or Death&quot;) which is the newly imposed motto for Venezuelan armed forces would be put to the test. I truly doubt there is true conviction, more a true need within the lower army ranks to keep quiet so they can feed their families on a measly salary while the high ranks are quiet for other reasons, they live it up at the most expensive restaurants, driving luxury cars and enjoy their government sponsored hedonism. To die for Venezuela?  For a senseless war (are there any that make sense)? Not happening. As to support for foreign forces agaisnt Chavez..About half the country&#039;s population...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the unlikely event that a war between Colombia and Venezuela broke out, the now very comfortable Venezuelan Military Forces (Upper Ranks) would be forced to put their money where their mouth is: &#8220;Patria, Socialismo o Muerte&#8221; (&#8220;Country, Socialism or Death&#8221;) which is the newly imposed motto for Venezuelan armed forces would be put to the test. I truly doubt there is true conviction, more a true need within the lower army ranks to keep quiet so they can feed their families on a measly salary while the high ranks are quiet for other reasons, they live it up at the most expensive restaurants, driving luxury cars and enjoy their government sponsored hedonism. To die for Venezuela?  For a senseless war (are there any that make sense)? Not happening. As to support for foreign forces agaisnt Chavez..About half the country&#39;s population&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JeffersonDavis</title>
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		<dc:creator>JeffersonDavis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And if Venezuela were to attack the United States, we&#039;d have to worry about our own version of inside threat:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;H O L L Y W O O D&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Chavez&#039;s best friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if Venezuela were to attack the United States, we&#39;d have to worry about our own version of inside threat:</p>
<p>H O L L Y W O O D</p>
<p>Chavez&#39;s best friends.</p>
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		<title>By: Father_Time</title>
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		<dc:creator>Father_Time</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No more war. PERIOD!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;South America will just have to solve their own problems.  Maybe Mexico would like to step up....for once at least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No more war. PERIOD!</p>
<p>South America will just have to solve their own problems.  Maybe Mexico would like to step up&#8230;.for once at least.</p>
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