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	<title>Comments on: New York Times: &#8220;Homeless on Veterans Day&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Father_Time</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/52703/new-york-times-homeless-on-veterans-day/comment-page-1/#comment-230096</link>
		<dc:creator>Father_Time</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know I met a guy a few years back that spent 20 months in the Army at Fort Ord in the late 60&#039;s, mostly in the stockade. He made jokes about getting out of going to Vietnam. Somehow he got a general discharge and full VA benefits. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My childhood next door neighbor, came home from Vietnam a second lieutenant with one leg and got pretty much the same benefits, (a little better but not much). I really liked my neighbor. I’ve often wondered how they worked it out that a vet that gave so much gets the same as a vet that gave practically nothing.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Seems like our politicians just don’t put a lot of thought into some of the bills they write. Or maybe there is just so much partisan tug-of-war going on that the bills they write turn into incoherent variations of the original intent of the bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know I met a guy a few years back that spent 20 months in the Army at Fort Ord in the late 60&#39;s, mostly in the stockade. He made jokes about getting out of going to Vietnam. Somehow he got a general discharge and full VA benefits. </p>
<p>My childhood next door neighbor, came home from Vietnam a second lieutenant with one leg and got pretty much the same benefits, (a little better but not much). I really liked my neighbor. I’ve often wondered how they worked it out that a vet that gave so much gets the same as a vet that gave practically nothing.  </p>
<p>Seems like our politicians just don’t put a lot of thought into some of the bills they write. Or maybe there is just so much partisan tug-of-war going on that the bills they write turn into incoherent variations of the original intent of the bill.</p>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention New York Times: “Homeless on Veterans Day” &#124; The Moderate Voice -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention New York Times: “Homeless on Veterans Day” &#124; The Moderate Voice -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by TMV, aperte. aperte said: sad stats: ~1/3, 3 in 100, 18mos vs 5+yrs. http://tr.im/EMLt [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by TMV, aperte. aperte said: sad stats: ~1/3, 3 in 100, 18mos vs 5+yrs. <a href="http://tr.im/EMLt" rel="nofollow">http://tr.im/EMLt</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: D. E.Rodriguez</title>
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		<dc:creator>D. E.Rodriguez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for pointing this out, DQ.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I read in the article you linked to that &quot;Only 12 percent of [California&#039;s] veterans actually collect the benefits they’re due,&quot; and  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;A report by the National Association of Veteran District Offices ranks California 35th in the nation for securing federal benefits, like disability payments or help with job training and placement&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Not good...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for pointing this out, DQ.</p>
<p>I read in the article you linked to that &#8220;Only 12 percent of [California&#39;s] veterans actually collect the benefits they’re due,&#8221; and  </p>
<p>&#8220;A report by the National Association of Veteran District Offices ranks California 35th in the nation for securing federal benefits, like disability payments or help with job training and placement&#8221;</p>
<p>Not good&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Don Quijote</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Quijote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is the profit motive in taking care of Veterans? If there isn&#039;t one, why would you expect the US to take care of them?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Profits über Alles&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.scpr.org/news/2009/11/10/Cal-Vet-Needs/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Auditor says California should do more to help veterans get federal benefits&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;We had at one point 80,000 to 90,000 veterans homeless from the Vietnam era because we didn’t get ahead of their mental health and substance abuse and all the related issues and criminal justice issues. And we let them die on the streets–&quot; McChesney broke off. Through tears he said, &quot;We don’t want to do that again.&quot; &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And twenty years from now, someone will say the exact same thing with only one difference, the word &quot;Vietnam&quot; will be replaced either by the word &quot;Iraq&quot; or &quot;Afghanistan&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is the profit motive in taking care of Veterans? If there isn&#39;t one, why would you expect the US to take care of them?</p>
<p><b>Profits über Alles</b></p>
<p><a href="http://www.scpr.org/news/2009/11/10/Cal-Vet-Needs/" rel="nofollow">Auditor says California should do more to help veterans get federal benefits</a></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;We had at one point 80,000 to 90,000 veterans homeless from the Vietnam era because we didn’t get ahead of their mental health and substance abuse and all the related issues and criminal justice issues. And we let them die on the streets–&#8221; McChesney broke off. Through tears he said, &#8220;We don’t want to do that again.&#8221; </p></blockquote>
<p>And twenty years from now, someone will say the exact same thing with only one difference, the word &#8220;Vietnam&#8221; will be replaced either by the word &#8220;Iraq&#8221; or &#8220;Afghanistan&#8221;.</p>
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