Comments on: Lech Walesa: The First Wall to Fall Was in Poland http://themoderatevoice.com/52437/lech-walesa-the-first-wall-to-fall-was-in-poland/ An Internet hub with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, indies, centrists, moderates, and right Wed, 15 Feb 2012 16:30:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Father_Time http://themoderatevoice.com/52437/lech-walesa-the-first-wall-to-fall-was-in-poland/comment-page-1/#comment-229520 Father_Time Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:55:18 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=52437#comment-229520 Always a pleasure Mr.Rodriguez. Always a pleasure Mr.Rodriguez.

]]> By: D. E.Rodriguez http://themoderatevoice.com/52437/lech-walesa-the-first-wall-to-fall-was-in-poland/comment-page-1/#comment-229455 D. E.Rodriguez Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:37:20 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=52437#comment-229455 "Lech Walesa was a union electrician. In fact leader of the union. Funny how the great changes for good in the world come primarily from working people, not established and entrenched capitalists"<br><br>As a matter of fact, FT, Walesa alluded to exactly that "further down" in his interview with Der Spiegel:<br><br>When asked: "Last week, former US President George H. W. Bush, ex-Chancellor Helmut Kohl and Gorbachev were in Berlin to discuss the end of the Cold War. Certainly Western pressure was one reason that Gorbachev didn't act to block the East German exodus? "<br><br> he answered:<br><br>"The politicians always told us that the Cold War stand-off could only change by way of nuclear war. None of them believed that such systemic change was possible. They now express gratitude to the people for having made the changes possible, but at the same time they present themselves as the fathers of German reunification. In truth, they were only accidental fathers of the fall of the Wall -- forced into action by the masses."<br><br>Thanks for your comment “Lech Walesa was a union electrician. In fact leader of the union. Funny how the great changes for good in the world come primarily from working people, not established and entrenched capitalists”

As a matter of fact, FT, Walesa alluded to exactly that “further down” in his interview with Der Spiegel:

When asked: “Last week, former US President George H. W. Bush, ex-Chancellor Helmut Kohl and Gorbachev were in Berlin to discuss the end of the Cold War. Certainly Western pressure was one reason that Gorbachev didn't act to block the East German exodus? “

he answered:

“The politicians always told us that the Cold War stand-off could only change by way of nuclear war. None of them believed that such systemic change was possible. They now express gratitude to the people for having made the changes possible, but at the same time they present themselves as the fathers of German reunification. In truth, they were only accidental fathers of the fall of the Wall — forced into action by the masses.”

Thanks for your comment

]]> By: Father_Time http://themoderatevoice.com/52437/lech-walesa-the-first-wall-to-fall-was-in-poland/comment-page-1/#comment-229447 Father_Time Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:05:09 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=52437#comment-229447 Lech Walesa was a union electrician. In fact leader of the union. Funny how the great changes for good in the world come primarily from working people, not established and entrenched capitalists. Lech Walesa was a union electrician. In fact leader of the union. Funny how the great changes for good in the world come primarily from working people, not established and entrenched capitalists.

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