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	<title>Comments on: Lieberman&#8217;s Ego and Cao&#8217;s Conscience</title>
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		<title>By: keelaay</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/52346/liebermans-ego-and-caos-conscience/comment-page-1/#comment-229452</link>
		<dc:creator>keelaay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe not personally to you, but it was rude and condescending and cheapens (or simply truncates) the discussion for those who might not fully agree with her political outlook -- or even those of us like me who often do agree, but also value open minded and empathetic discourse.  Anyway, seems you are the good sport.. have fun!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe not personally to you, but it was rude and condescending and cheapens (or simply truncates) the discussion for those who might not fully agree with her political outlook &#8212; or even those of us like me who often do agree, but also value open minded and empathetic discourse.  Anyway, seems you are the good sport.. have fun!</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/52346/liebermans-ego-and-caos-conscience/comment-page-1/#comment-229396</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If they were still around they&#039;d be telling that youg punk Marx to get off their lawn.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Goldwater tried, and failed, in 1964.  Well, with the New Deal, not necessarily with Marx.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kathy&#039;s peers (Sixties) wanted to go farther than the New Deal.  Oh, the setbacks after 1980.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(Kathy -- if you have radio you can listen to, try Thom &quot;Reagan = Dark Age Initiation&quot; Hartmann or Big Ed &quot;Kick Harry Reid in the Butt and Make Congress Do Their Job on Health Care and More&quot; Schultz.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If they were still around they&#39;d be telling that youg punk Marx to get off their lawn.&#8221;</p>
<p>Goldwater tried, and failed, in 1964.  Well, with the New Deal, not necessarily with Marx.</p>
<p>Kathy&#39;s peers (Sixties) wanted to go farther than the New Deal.  Oh, the setbacks after 1980.</p>
<p>(Kathy &#8212; if you have radio you can listen to, try Thom &#8220;Reagan = Dark Age Initiation&#8221; Hartmann or Big Ed &#8220;Kick Harry Reid in the Butt and Make Congress Do Their Job on Health Care and More&#8221; Schultz.)</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/52346/liebermans-ego-and-caos-conscience/comment-page-1/#comment-229395</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I&#039;ll ask again, where&#039;s the Che[-Vette] Beret, Kathy?  Where&#039;s the hat?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I&#39;ll ask again, where&#39;s the Che[-Vette] Beret, Kathy?  Where&#39;s the hat?</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/52346/liebermans-ego-and-caos-conscience/comment-page-1/#comment-229394</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Just call me old-fashioned.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sixties definitely is old-fashioned!  OK, so you still dream big -- public option is a great compromise, etc.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Plus, you don&#039;t like righties, but you&#039;re not (usually, or often) reactionary as so many lefties are, just a bit defensive now and then.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Don&#039;t worry yet about the fate of the public option and health care &quot;reform&quot; in the Senate, on in conference.  Not yet.  Don&#039;t even worry yet about abortion (though social-cons may seize the issue now).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Just call me old-fashioned.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sixties definitely is old-fashioned!  OK, so you still dream big &#8212; public option is a great compromise, etc.</p>
<p>Plus, you don&#39;t like righties, but you&#39;re not (usually, or often) reactionary as so many lefties are, just a bit defensive now and then.</p>
<p>Don&#39;t worry yet about the fate of the public option and health care &#8220;reform&#8221; in the Senate, on in conference.  Not yet.  Don&#39;t even worry yet about abortion (though social-cons may seize the issue now).</p>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/52346/liebermans-ego-and-caos-conscience/comment-page-1/#comment-229387</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;  I&#039;m from the 1960s. I can&#039;t shake all that antiquated stuff about compassion and conscience.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just call me old-fashioned.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You Hippie!  =P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>  I&#39;m from the 1960s. I can&#39;t shake all that antiquated stuff about compassion and conscience.</p>
<p>Just call me old-fashioned.</p></blockquote>
<p>You Hippie!  =P</p>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/52346/liebermans-ego-and-caos-conscience/comment-page-1/#comment-229386</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; It&#039;s just so easy to do. :-) &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;See, we can agree I find it very easy as well.  =D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> It&#39;s just so easy to do. <img src='http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p></blockquote>
<p>See, we can agree I find it very easy as well.  =D</p>
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		<title>By: kathykattenburg</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/52346/liebermans-ego-and-caos-conscience/comment-page-1/#comment-229380</link>
		<dc:creator>kathykattenburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Conscience&quot;? That&#039;s right out of the 1960s. I&#039;m surprised you didn&#039;t say &quot;Compassion.&quot; [chuckle]&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What can I say, DLS? I&#039;m from the 1960s. I can&#039;t shake all that antiquated stuff about compassion and conscience.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just call me old-fashioned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Conscience&#8221;? That&#39;s right out of the 1960s. I&#39;m surprised you didn&#39;t say &#8220;Compassion.&#8221; [chuckle]</i></p>
<p>What can I say, DLS? I&#39;m from the 1960s. I can&#39;t shake all that antiquated stuff about compassion and conscience.</p>
<p>Just call me old-fashioned.</p>
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		<title>By: kathykattenburg</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/52346/liebermans-ego-and-caos-conscience/comment-page-1/#comment-229376</link>
		<dc:creator>kathykattenburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s just so easy to do. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s just so easy to do. <img src='http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: kathykattenburg</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/52346/liebermans-ego-and-caos-conscience/comment-page-1/#comment-229375</link>
		<dc:creator>kathykattenburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ROFL!! Thanks -- I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ROFL!! Thanks &#8212; I think.</p>
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		<title>By: kathykattenburg</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/52346/liebermans-ego-and-caos-conscience/comment-page-1/#comment-229374</link>
		<dc:creator>kathykattenburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Also note this bit at the link&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you read the link, you know that the CNN article specifically mentions that Cao&#039;s district is majority Democratic. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Having said that, I just clicked on the link and the article isn&#039;t there anymore. I&#039;m not sure why it was taken down, but I suppose I&#039;ll have to drop the argument because I can&#039;t quote from an article that has vanished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Also note this bit at the link</i></p>
<p>If you read the link, you know that the CNN article specifically mentions that Cao&#39;s district is majority Democratic. </p>
<p>Having said that, I just clicked on the link and the article isn&#39;t there anymore. I&#39;m not sure why it was taken down, but I suppose I&#39;ll have to drop the argument because I can&#39;t quote from an article that has vanished.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/52346/liebermans-ego-and-caos-conscience/comment-page-1/#comment-229363</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathy, Kathy, Kathy...tsk, tsk, tsk...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Conscience&quot;?  That&#039;s right out of the 1960s.  I&#039;m surprised you didn&#039;t say &quot;Compassion.&quot;  [chuckle]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The griping about Lieberman has about as much depth, too.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What happens when the Senate shoves the legislative effort for &quot;reform&quot; back more toward reality?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What happens if the Senate says &quot;no public option,&quot; even worse than a &quot;trigger&quot; with the equivalent of an anti-gun lunatic&#039;s dream of a &quot;trigger lock&quot; on it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathy, Kathy, Kathy&#8230;tsk, tsk, tsk&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Conscience&#8221;?  That&#39;s right out of the 1960s.  I&#39;m surprised you didn&#39;t say &#8220;Compassion.&#8221;  [chuckle]</p>
<p>The griping about Lieberman has about as much depth, too.</p>
<p>What happens when the Senate shoves the legislative effort for &#8220;reform&#8221; back more toward reality?</p>
<p>What happens if the Senate says &#8220;no public option,&#8221; even worse than a &#8220;trigger&#8221; with the equivalent of an anti-gun lunatic&#39;s dream of a &#8220;trigger lock&#8221; on it?</p>
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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/52346/liebermans-ego-and-caos-conscience/comment-page-1/#comment-229322</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>inded, redbus, the comment section of this post seems to be about Leonidas&#039; ego</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>inded, redbus, the comment section of this post seems to be about Leonidas&#39; ego</p>
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		<title>By: redbus</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/52346/liebermans-ego-and-caos-conscience/comment-page-1/#comment-229319</link>
		<dc:creator>redbus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice to see you back, Leonidas. It just didn&#039;t seem like TMV without you and KK sniping at each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice to see you back, Leonidas. It just didn&#39;t seem like TMV without you and KK sniping at each other.</p>
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		<title>By: JSpencer</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/52346/liebermans-ego-and-caos-conscience/comment-page-1/#comment-229308</link>
		<dc:creator>JSpencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does Joe Lieberman even know what a &quot;conscience&quot; is?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does Joe Lieberman even know what a &#8220;conscience&#8221; is?</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/52346/liebermans-ego-and-caos-conscience/comment-page-1/#comment-229304</link>
		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is all about Joe L. ego. Seems his voting record at VoteSmart is very pro-labor:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=53278&amp;type=category&amp;category=43&amp;go.x=9&amp;go.y=17&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_category....&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=53278&amp;type=category&amp;category=38&amp;go.x=17&amp;go.y=17&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_category....&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is all about Joe L. ego. Seems his voting record at VoteSmart is very pro-labor:<br /><a href="http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=53278&#038;type=category&#038;category=43&#038;go.x=9&#038;go.y=17" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_category..." rel="nofollow">http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_category&#8230;</a>.<br /><a href="http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=53278&#038;type=category&#038;category=38&#038;go.x=17&#038;go.y=17" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_category..." rel="nofollow">http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_category&#8230;</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/52346/liebermans-ego-and-caos-conscience/comment-page-1/#comment-229264</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Keelaay, but don&#039;t worry about Kathy&#039;s tone, she just gets emotional from time to time and its not any real rudeness towards me personally, just a general attitude to those with a different political outlook.  It doesn&#039;t bother me in the least.  I actually am fond of Kathy, she grows on you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Keelaay, but don&#39;t worry about Kathy&#39;s tone, she just gets emotional from time to time and its not any real rudeness towards me personally, just a general attitude to those with a different political outlook.  It doesn&#39;t bother me in the least.  I actually am fond of Kathy, she grows on you.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/52346/liebermans-ego-and-caos-conscience/comment-page-1/#comment-229263</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; *I* personally don&#039;t refer to William Jefferson, but the quote that I pasted right smack dab in front of your face in the post refers to William Jefferson! And it also says the district is heavily Democratic&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;No you personally don&#039;t, and the article only says it was an upset, not a democratic district.  Usually when a long-term incumbent loses to a freshman congressman it is considered an upset.   As to the reference to Jefferson of your link it does not point out his corruption convictions 11 counts or so I believe, and the fact that the voters of that district still voted for him after being caught with the money in his freezer and re-elected him.    As for whats on the front of my face its my nose, I can see it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt; that&#039;s the entire point of the compromise Cao made! And it SAYS the district is Democratic! Right there, Leonidas! In the post! READ!&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;No its not the point, the point is his district was full of voters who &quot;want health care reform&quot;.  That doesn&#039;t automatically make them democrats.  In fact many democratic voters oppose it, including 25% of those in the House.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also you have this that you quoted:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt; “So candidates who live in moderate to slightly liberal districts have got to walk a little bit carefully here, because you do not want to put yourself in a position where you’re crossing that line on conservative principles &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This leaves an impression that the district might be moderate.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For a look at the recent voting history of the district see here:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana%27s_2nd_congressional_district&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana&#039;s_2nd_co...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also note this bit at the link:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;  It has also historically been among the most safely Democratic seats in the country; the Republicans had not held this seat since 1891, until Republican nominee Anh Joseph Cao upset Democratic incumbent William J. Jefferson in 2008 for the term to begin in January 2009. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;Clearly not a moderate district.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I suggest you heed your own advice and read what you wrote before tossing out claims that someone didn&#039;t read what you wrote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> *I* personally don&#39;t refer to William Jefferson, but the quote that I pasted right smack dab in front of your face in the post refers to William Jefferson! And it also says the district is heavily Democratic</p></blockquote>
<p>No you personally don&#39;t, and the article only says it was an upset, not a democratic district.  Usually when a long-term incumbent loses to a freshman congressman it is considered an upset.   As to the reference to Jefferson of your link it does not point out his corruption convictions 11 counts or so I believe, and the fact that the voters of that district still voted for him after being caught with the money in his freezer and re-elected him.    As for whats on the front of my face its my nose, I can see it.</p>
<blockquote><p> that&#39;s the entire point of the compromise Cao made! And it SAYS the district is Democratic! Right there, Leonidas! In the post! READ!</p></blockquote>
<p>No its not the point, the point is his district was full of voters who &#8220;want health care reform&#8221;.  That doesn&#39;t automatically make them democrats.  In fact many democratic voters oppose it, including 25% of those in the House.</p>
<p>Also you have this that you quoted:</p>
<blockquote><p> “So candidates who live in moderate to slightly liberal districts have got to walk a little bit carefully here, because you do not want to put yourself in a position where you’re crossing that line on conservative principles </p></blockquote>
<p>This leaves an impression that the district might be moderate.</p>
<p>For a look at the recent voting history of the district see here:<br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana%27s_2nd_congressional_district" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana&#39;s_2nd_co.." rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana&#39;s_2nd_co..</a>.</p>
<p>Also note this bit at the link:</p>
<blockquote><p>  It has also historically been among the most safely Democratic seats in the country; the Republicans had not held this seat since 1891, until Republican nominee Anh Joseph Cao upset Democratic incumbent William J. Jefferson in 2008 for the term to begin in January 2009. </p></blockquote>
<p>Clearly not a moderate district.</p>
<p>I suggest you heed your own advice and read what you wrote before tossing out claims that someone didn&#39;t read what you wrote.</p>
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		<title>By: kathykattenburg</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/52346/liebermans-ego-and-caos-conscience/comment-page-1/#comment-229260</link>
		<dc:creator>kathykattenburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Nope it doesn&#039;t repeat your post. You don&#039;t refer to William Jefferson, you don&#039;t mention that his district is primarily democratic....&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;*I* personally don&#039;t refer to William Jefferson, but the quote that I pasted right smack dab in front of your face in the post refers to William Jefferson! And it also says the district is heavily Democratic! that&#039;s the entire point of the compromise Cao made! And it SAYS the district is Democratic! Right there, Leonidas! In the post! READ!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Forget the rest of your comment; this is too depressing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Nope it doesn&#39;t repeat your post. You don&#39;t refer to William Jefferson, you don&#39;t mention that his district is primarily democratic&#8230;.</i></p>
<p>*I* personally don&#39;t refer to William Jefferson, but the quote that I pasted right smack dab in front of your face in the post refers to William Jefferson! And it also says the district is heavily Democratic! that&#39;s the entire point of the compromise Cao made! And it SAYS the district is Democratic! Right there, Leonidas! In the post! READ!</p>
<p>Forget the rest of your comment; this is too depressing.</p>
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		<title>By: StockBoySF</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/52346/liebermans-ego-and-caos-conscience/comment-page-1/#comment-229251</link>
		<dc:creator>StockBoySF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 06:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So does this mean that Lieberman&#039;s conscience is the same as Republican principles; only around when they&#039;re handy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So does this mean that Lieberman&#39;s conscience is the same as Republican principles; only around when they&#39;re handy?</p>
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		<title>By: keelaay</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/52346/liebermans-ego-and-caos-conscience/comment-page-1/#comment-229244</link>
		<dc:creator>keelaay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 06:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Leonidas&#039; first paragraph most certainly does not repeat the information from your post, Ms. Kattenburg.  It adds interesting and relevant context not to be found in your post.  Frankly, I don&#039;t understand your rude and demeaning replies to Mr. Leonidas.  He has a differing view which is reasonably based on additional information and a different perspective, all of which deserve respect, not derision.  That Mr Leonidas disagrees with your analysis seems to be the only grounds on which you deride his argument as &quot;churlish&quot;, &quot;foolish&quot;, and &quot;annoying&quot;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Lastly, whether a a one votes ones &quot;conscience&quot; or the majority view of ones constituents is the harrowing divide every congressperson must confront.  There is no absolute right or wrong answer... except for the Monday morning bystanders who can make accusations of &quot;egoism&quot; when a political enemy votes their conscience, or &quot;political selling out&quot; when the vote is with the majority.     Voting ones conscience is sometimes bravery, sometimes a cover, and sometimes just plain ol&#039; politics (as Mr Leonidas postulates in here).  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Again, agree with him or not, I believe Mr Leonidas&#039; insights are as worthy of our respect as yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Leonidas&#39; first paragraph most certainly does not repeat the information from your post, Ms. Kattenburg.  It adds interesting and relevant context not to be found in your post.  Frankly, I don&#39;t understand your rude and demeaning replies to Mr. Leonidas.  He has a differing view which is reasonably based on additional information and a different perspective, all of which deserve respect, not derision.  That Mr Leonidas disagrees with your analysis seems to be the only grounds on which you deride his argument as &#8220;churlish&#8221;, &#8220;foolish&#8221;, and &#8220;annoying&#8221;.</p>
<p>Lastly, whether a a one votes ones &#8220;conscience&#8221; or the majority view of ones constituents is the harrowing divide every congressperson must confront.  There is no absolute right or wrong answer&#8230; except for the Monday morning bystanders who can make accusations of &#8220;egoism&#8221; when a political enemy votes their conscience, or &#8220;political selling out&#8221; when the vote is with the majority.     Voting ones conscience is sometimes bravery, sometimes a cover, and sometimes just plain ol&#39; politics (as Mr Leonidas postulates in here).  </p>
<p>Again, agree with him or not, I believe Mr Leonidas&#39; insights are as worthy of our respect as yours.</p>
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