Comments on: How Not to Play the Minority Party http://themoderatevoice.com/52263/how-not-to-play-the-minority-party/ An Internet hub with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, indies, centrists, moderates, and right Wed, 15 Feb 2012 08:05:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: DLS http://themoderatevoice.com/52263/how-not-to-play-the-minority-party/comment-page-1/#comment-229423 DLS Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:42:47 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=52263#comment-229423 "You are right, it would not be democracy if the democrats (or republicans for that matter) ram any kind of legislation down the throat of the American public."<br><br>Well, to many, "progress" means simply Feeling Good and getting what they want, and they have no patience or even tolerance for real democracy or other elements of propriety or of procedure when these are viewed as encumbrances or resistances. “You are right, it would not be democracy if the democrats (or republicans for that matter) ram any kind of legislation down the throat of the American public.”

Well, to many, “progress” means simply Feeling Good and getting what they want, and they have no patience or even tolerance for real democracy or other elements of propriety or of procedure when these are viewed as encumbrances or resistances.

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]]> By: JSpencer http://themoderatevoice.com/52263/how-not-to-play-the-minority-party/comment-page-1/#comment-229108 JSpencer Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:37:31 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=52263#comment-229108 It's a pity the GOP doesn't seem to have any ideas of thier own to contribute to solving a serious problem that's been growing for decades. Instead the only idea they seem to have is... well, geeze, I guess they don't <I>have</I> any ideas. Only no. No. No. No . . . and, well... that old standby, "no". I'd be happy to advocate for and defend the GOP if they were doing anything positive to address the serious problems in this country, but I'm not going to bat for them until they actually wake up from thier bizarre partisan nightmare and start showing they actually care about the US of A.... which could actually use their help! I'm still waiting... It's a pity the GOP doesn't seem to have any ideas of thier own to contribute to solving a serious problem that's been growing for decades. Instead the only idea they seem to have is… well, geeze, I guess they don't have any ideas. Only no. No. No. No . . . and, well… that old standby, “no”. I'd be happy to advocate for and defend the GOP if they were doing anything positive to address the serious problems in this country, but I'm not going to bat for them until they actually wake up from thier bizarre partisan nightmare and start showing they actually care about the US of A…. which could actually use their help! I'm still waiting…

]]> By: SteveK http://themoderatevoice.com/52263/how-not-to-play-the-minority-party/comment-page-1/#comment-229092 SteveK Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:12:48 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=52263#comment-229092 Elections have consequences - <a href="http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/05/mccain-election.html" rel="nofollow">John McCain</a><br><br>Elections have consequences - <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4iHan7BjqY" rel="nofollow">Barbara Boxer</a> Elections have consequences – John McCain

Elections have consequences – Barbara Boxer

]]> By: Shamrock http://themoderatevoice.com/52263/how-not-to-play-the-minority-party/comment-page-1/#comment-229084 Shamrock Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:48:13 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=52263#comment-229084 Jefferson also said the French Revolution was a good idea. Adam's system of representation is the one we went with. And the majority wants health care. I mean if you take the populations of California, New York and Chicago you would have the Marjory and they want health care. By your Jefferson system, the other states wouldn't even need to vote. Funny, because the states that supported him would be the ones with no vote by such a system. Jefferson also said the French Revolution was a good idea. Adam's system of representation is the one we went with. And the majority wants health care. I mean if you take the populations of California, New York and Chicago you would have the Marjory and they want health care. By your Jefferson system, the other states wouldn't even need to vote. Funny, because the states that supported him would be the ones with no vote by such a system.

]]> By: JeffersonDavis http://themoderatevoice.com/52263/how-not-to-play-the-minority-party/comment-page-1/#comment-229077 JeffersonDavis Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:20:07 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=52263#comment-229077 "That is not a democracy if the majority gets defeated. "<br><br>That is not entirely correct, Shamrock. The founding fathers warned of partisan majorities from the onset. If these votes were left to the people (as Jefferson supported a "direct" democracy) they would crash and burn quickly. The majority party does not represent the "majority" opinion among the people. You are right, it would not be democracy if the democrats (or republicans for that matter) ram any kind of legislation down the throat of the American public. “That is not a democracy if the majority gets defeated. “

That is not entirely correct, Shamrock. The founding fathers warned of partisan majorities from the onset. If these votes were left to the people (as Jefferson supported a “direct” democracy) they would crash and burn quickly. The majority party does not represent the “majority” opinion among the people. You are right, it would not be democracy if the democrats (or republicans for that matter) ram any kind of legislation down the throat of the American public.

]]> By: Shamrock http://themoderatevoice.com/52263/how-not-to-play-the-minority-party/comment-page-1/#comment-229075 Shamrock Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:42:04 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=52263#comment-229075 The republican voters are so batshit crazy right now, that if anyone voted present they would have had half of their votes go to another conservative canidate like it did in northern New York. Its a good thing it passed though, I mean you were arguing that the majority's bill should have been defeated. That is not a democracy if the majority gets defeated. We have a checks and balances system, but those are the senate and the President, not the minority party. The constitution has nothing to do with party affiliation and about what has the most votes. To advance that the Minority Party should do shady ward boss politics seems very un-American. The republican voters are so batshit crazy right now, that if anyone voted present they would have had half of their votes go to another conservative canidate like it did in northern New York. Its a good thing it passed though, I mean you were arguing that the majority's bill should have been defeated. That is not a democracy if the majority gets defeated. We have a checks and balances system, but those are the senate and the President, not the minority party. The constitution has nothing to do with party affiliation and about what has the most votes. To advance that the Minority Party should do shady ward boss politics seems very un-American.

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