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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;V&#8221; for Vilification: Liberal Paradise, Obama Nightmare (Guest Voice)</title>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/51888/v-for-villification-liberal-paradise-obama-nightmare-guest-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-228669</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The great columnist Dorothy Thompson once wrote a piece on &#039;Who would go Nazi?&#039; if fascism ever came to America. Most of her choices were Republicans.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;She is ignorant of history, in particular since the 1930s!  Does her bias lead her to say black is white?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The great columnist Dorothy Thompson once wrote a piece on &#39;Who would go Nazi?&#39; if fascism ever came to America. Most of her choices were Republicans.&#8221;</p>
<p>She is ignorant of history, in particular since the 1930s!  Does her bias lead her to say black is white?</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/51888/v-for-villification-liberal-paradise-obama-nightmare-guest-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-228607</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Maybe it will get better but I don&#039;t think so.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The bigger-picture issue to consider is that (as with remaking songs on the air waves, and movies in the cinema, like &quot;Pelham&quot;) this is another re-make -- not only is Hollywood lowly and low-IQ, but short of ideas as well -- or the trends it has been following are empty or so low as to being desperately &quot;poor.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Maybe it will get better but I don&#39;t think so.&#8221;</p>
<p>The bigger-picture issue to consider is that (as with remaking songs on the air waves, and movies in the cinema, like &#8220;Pelham&#8221;) this is another re-make &#8212; not only is Hollywood lowly and low-IQ, but short of ideas as well &#8212; or the trends it has been following are empty or so low as to being desperately &#8220;poor.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/51888/v-for-villification-liberal-paradise-obama-nightmare-guest-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-228606</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Could it be that some who see Obama in this show never saw the original mini-series and TV series?&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Seeing the earlier series is why they see Obama (and related political phenomena) in this show, now, obviously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Could it be that some who see Obama in this show never saw the original mini-series and TV series?&#8221;</p>
<p>Seeing the earlier series is why they see Obama (and related political phenomena) in this show, now, obviously.</p>
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		<title>By: Boonton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boonton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I don&#039;t want to burst your bubble, and I know this will come as a massive surprise and shock to you, but I&#039;m not aware of a single Nazi regime in the world who got into power by preaching peace, love, understanding, and universal healthcare. Hitler&#039;s supporters did not hold up signs with rainbows and the word &quot;Hope&quot; on them. The...&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ditto that, in the early 80&#039;s V was an amazing series but there is a pretty dishonest idea in it with the Obama=Hitler loonies.  Fascism was NOT some type of slight of hand or trick the Nazis played on an innocent population.  Both facists and communists at the turn of the century were very rough, nasty people and they got support because of that.  But this modern day meme is about intellectual masturbation for the right.  They get to pat themselves on the back and tell themselves they are the smart ones because only they can see through the hype while everyone else is fooled.  Unfortunately this doesn&#039;t do justice to the real victims of fascism.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But a sci-fi story should stand on its own.  Yes it will have points of inspiration from real life but we shouldn&#039;t go too far with that.  How much nonsense was wasted on Battlestar Galactica trying to figure out if President Rosalyn was Bush, was using suicide bombers against the cylons implicit support of the insurgency in Iraq etc....&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As sci-fi, the New V has several major problems:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1.  We are much more literate when it comes to science.  In the late 70&#039;s Battlestar Galactica could muddle galaxies, stars and planets.  Today many of us have a much better understanding of astronomy (thanks Dr. Sagan and those endless Nova and now history channel documentaries!).  This means we demand a lot of scientific consistency from our sci-fi.  A whole industry exists trying to reconcile science as it is to the science of franchises like Star Trek and Star Wars.  People were taking stills of the background stars in Battlestar Galactica and trying to pinpoint where in the galaxy and how close to earth the series was.  What does this mean?  It means when aliens show up in 29 ships maybe just slightly smaller than Manhatten and say they need water...everyone knows a planet&#039;s worth of water can easily be sniped from the comets in our Oort cloud or one of the moons of the outer planets without us even noticing.  Needless to say, other questions like what are the odds that aliens would evolve to look exactly like humans and why would they have knowledge of all the world&#039;s languages are also not raised but they would be by us.  The original series kind of answered that by having the scientists silenced so tough questions wouldn&#039;t be asked.  But we are all scientists now!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2.  This ties into the first point.  The characters are inferior.  Battlestar Galactica really raised the bar.  For example:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;There’s also an interesting religious angle with a Catholic priest questioning his faith with the arrival of beings from another world who never heard of Jesus, and who appear to be the real “saviors” of man. &quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Give me a break.  We all know the real arrival of friendly aliens would be a huge topic for the Catholic Church and religion in general.  Not just a mushy, quickie declaration that everyone&#039;s a child of God.  There&#039;s not even a hint that the writers understand that such a huge event would spawn a thousand difficult and vexing questions.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Likewise we have paranoid resisters who know the whole story, including the fact that the Vistors have sleeper agents among us....yet no story of how they acquired such intelligence nor do we feel that these character have such a convincing history.  No doubt the backstory will get filled in in some future episode but at its best Battlestar Galactica didn&#039;t feel like it was being written on the fly.  You felt there was a long history that made all the characters...even if you didn&#039;t happen to know what it was, it felt real.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yet oddly the resistance can&#039;t even get a single meeting together without it getting raided by Ninja visitors who risk exposure by swinging sword like weapons....when clearly they have remote drones that can kill.  But worldwide there&#039;s mass protests against the visitors that forces the leader-babe to commission a softball interview to try to win popularity.  But wait, I thought everyone already loved the visitors?  who are these protestors and what are they protesting?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Like the Tea Partiers, no one really seems to know.  They are just protesting and the V-babe needs to go on TV to sooth their concerns...but what are their concerns?  They have none because they are just stock footage of protests.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Maybe it will get better but I don&#039;t think so.  All the mechanical elements are there but there&#039;s no there there.  It doesn&#039;t feel real and it falls short IMO.  Maybe it can become really campy fun but I doubt it.  It takes itself a bit too seriously for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I don&#39;t want to burst your bubble, and I know this will come as a massive surprise and shock to you, but I&#39;m not aware of a single Nazi regime in the world who got into power by preaching peace, love, understanding, and universal healthcare. Hitler&#39;s supporters did not hold up signs with rainbows and the word &#8220;Hope&#8221; on them. The&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Ditto that, in the early 80&#39;s V was an amazing series but there is a pretty dishonest idea in it with the Obama=Hitler loonies.  Fascism was NOT some type of slight of hand or trick the Nazis played on an innocent population.  Both facists and communists at the turn of the century were very rough, nasty people and they got support because of that.  But this modern day meme is about intellectual masturbation for the right.  They get to pat themselves on the back and tell themselves they are the smart ones because only they can see through the hype while everyone else is fooled.  Unfortunately this doesn&#39;t do justice to the real victims of fascism.</p>
<p>But a sci-fi story should stand on its own.  Yes it will have points of inspiration from real life but we shouldn&#39;t go too far with that.  How much nonsense was wasted on Battlestar Galactica trying to figure out if President Rosalyn was Bush, was using suicide bombers against the cylons implicit support of the insurgency in Iraq etc&#8230;.</p>
<p>As sci-fi, the New V has several major problems:</p>
<p>1.  We are much more literate when it comes to science.  In the late 70&#39;s Battlestar Galactica could muddle galaxies, stars and planets.  Today many of us have a much better understanding of astronomy (thanks Dr. Sagan and those endless Nova and now history channel documentaries!).  This means we demand a lot of scientific consistency from our sci-fi.  A whole industry exists trying to reconcile science as it is to the science of franchises like Star Trek and Star Wars.  People were taking stills of the background stars in Battlestar Galactica and trying to pinpoint where in the galaxy and how close to earth the series was.  What does this mean?  It means when aliens show up in 29 ships maybe just slightly smaller than Manhatten and say they need water&#8230;everyone knows a planet&#39;s worth of water can easily be sniped from the comets in our Oort cloud or one of the moons of the outer planets without us even noticing.  Needless to say, other questions like what are the odds that aliens would evolve to look exactly like humans and why would they have knowledge of all the world&#39;s languages are also not raised but they would be by us.  The original series kind of answered that by having the scientists silenced so tough questions wouldn&#39;t be asked.  But we are all scientists now!</p>
<p>2.  This ties into the first point.  The characters are inferior.  Battlestar Galactica really raised the bar.  For example:</p>
<p>&#8220;There’s also an interesting religious angle with a Catholic priest questioning his faith with the arrival of beings from another world who never heard of Jesus, and who appear to be the real “saviors” of man. &#8220;</p>
<p>Give me a break.  We all know the real arrival of friendly aliens would be a huge topic for the Catholic Church and religion in general.  Not just a mushy, quickie declaration that everyone&#39;s a child of God.  There&#39;s not even a hint that the writers understand that such a huge event would spawn a thousand difficult and vexing questions.  </p>
<p>Likewise we have paranoid resisters who know the whole story, including the fact that the Vistors have sleeper agents among us&#8230;.yet no story of how they acquired such intelligence nor do we feel that these character have such a convincing history.  No doubt the backstory will get filled in in some future episode but at its best Battlestar Galactica didn&#39;t feel like it was being written on the fly.  You felt there was a long history that made all the characters&#8230;even if you didn&#39;t happen to know what it was, it felt real.  </p>
<p>Yet oddly the resistance can&#39;t even get a single meeting together without it getting raided by Ninja visitors who risk exposure by swinging sword like weapons&#8230;.when clearly they have remote drones that can kill.  But worldwide there&#39;s mass protests against the visitors that forces the leader-babe to commission a softball interview to try to win popularity.  But wait, I thought everyone already loved the visitors?  who are these protestors and what are they protesting?</p>
<p>Like the Tea Partiers, no one really seems to know.  They are just protesting and the V-babe needs to go on TV to sooth their concerns&#8230;but what are their concerns?  They have none because they are just stock footage of protests.  </p>
<p>Maybe it will get better but I don&#39;t think so.  All the mechanical elements are there but there&#39;s no there there.  It doesn&#39;t feel real and it falls short IMO.  Maybe it can become really campy fun but I doubt it.  It takes itself a bit too seriously for that.</p>
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		<title>By: yetanothermoderatevoice</title>
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		<dc:creator>yetanothermoderatevoice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say, I was way disappointed.  When I saw the new Battlestar Galactica remake I was spellbound, whereas this remake just seemed lame in comparison with the original ...  Seems to me if you&#039;re going to call something &quot;reimagined&quot; you have to, well, reimagine.  Like Devo&#039;s cover of &quot;Satisfaction&quot;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The universal health care reference did seem pretty ham-handed, especially given that just about every other OECD besides the U.S. has it - so what would be their motivation for cooperating with the V&#039;s?  BSG&#039;s messages were equally overtly political, but they didn&#039;t lend themselves to such easy answers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say, I was way disappointed.  When I saw the new Battlestar Galactica remake I was spellbound, whereas this remake just seemed lame in comparison with the original &#8230;  Seems to me if you&#39;re going to call something &#8220;reimagined&#8221; you have to, well, reimagine.  Like Devo&#39;s cover of &#8220;Satisfaction&#8221;.</p>
<p>The universal health care reference did seem pretty ham-handed, especially given that just about every other OECD besides the U.S. has it &#8211; so what would be their motivation for cooperating with the V&#39;s?  BSG&#39;s messages were equally overtly political, but they didn&#39;t lend themselves to such easy answers.</p>
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		<title>By: squiggleslash</title>
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		<dc:creator>squiggleslash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t want to burst your bubble, and I know this will come as a massive surprise and shock to you, but I&#039;m not aware of a single Nazi regime in the world who got into power by preaching peace, love, understanding, and universal healthcare. Hitler&#039;s supporters did not hold up signs with rainbows and the word &quot;Hope&quot; on them. The Hitler Youth was not made up of idealistic volunteers who wanted to promote peace and understanding with an &quot;alien&quot; group. And Hitler didn&#039;t run on a platform of ending &quot;needless wars&quot;. Much the opposite, to be quite honest with you.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This also may come as a complete shock to you, but shows generally don&#039;t get filmed at the moment they&#039;re pitched, and then stuck in a vault for three years before they&#039;re shown. Nor do shows generally end up being made as exactly the same things that were originally developed and pitched.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For example: the original V was pitched as a show about a Nazi take-over of the US. Between the pitch and the first actor (if you can call them actors...) being signed on, the show was radically changed to become an allegory about Nazis using space aliens as a metaphor. And between that and the show being televised, somehow - presumably unintentionally - the show ended up becoming a story about a conspiracy by a secretive subhuman group who were trying to enslave and murder normal people, which is supremely ironic if you think about it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The problem with the notion that the new V is not a bizarre twisted attempt to use right-wing talking points to equate Obama with Nazis is that, well, the new V &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; a bizarre twisted attempt to use right-wing talking points to equate Obama with Nazis. I don&#039;t know how the show would have played out if Obama hadn&#039;t won in 2008. I&#039;m sure Clintonesque imagery would have been associated with the visitors had she won, and I suspect the show would have been largely apolitical if McCain had won.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But Obama did win. The imagery and many of the concepts used by his supporters, coupled with the exaggerations of a right wing who mistake support for Obama with the kind of Worship they gave Bush until 2006, is being used by supporters of the visitors, despite having no connections to Nazism whatsoever. That&#039;s unmistakable, and it&#039;s absurd to argue otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t want to burst your bubble, and I know this will come as a massive surprise and shock to you, but I&#39;m not aware of a single Nazi regime in the world who got into power by preaching peace, love, understanding, and universal healthcare. Hitler&#39;s supporters did not hold up signs with rainbows and the word &#8220;Hope&#8221; on them. The Hitler Youth was not made up of idealistic volunteers who wanted to promote peace and understanding with an &#8220;alien&#8221; group. And Hitler didn&#39;t run on a platform of ending &#8220;needless wars&#8221;. Much the opposite, to be quite honest with you.</p>
<p>This also may come as a complete shock to you, but shows generally don&#39;t get filmed at the moment they&#39;re pitched, and then stuck in a vault for three years before they&#39;re shown. Nor do shows generally end up being made as exactly the same things that were originally developed and pitched.</p>
<p>For example: the original V was pitched as a show about a Nazi take-over of the US. Between the pitch and the first actor (if you can call them actors&#8230;) being signed on, the show was radically changed to become an allegory about Nazis using space aliens as a metaphor. And between that and the show being televised, somehow &#8211; presumably unintentionally &#8211; the show ended up becoming a story about a conspiracy by a secretive subhuman group who were trying to enslave and murder normal people, which is supremely ironic if you think about it.</p>
<p>The problem with the notion that the new V is not a bizarre twisted attempt to use right-wing talking points to equate Obama with Nazis is that, well, the new V <i>is</i> a bizarre twisted attempt to use right-wing talking points to equate Obama with Nazis. I don&#39;t know how the show would have played out if Obama hadn&#39;t won in 2008. I&#39;m sure Clintonesque imagery would have been associated with the visitors had she won, and I suspect the show would have been largely apolitical if McCain had won.</p>
<p>But Obama did win. The imagery and many of the concepts used by his supporters, coupled with the exaggerations of a right wing who mistake support for Obama with the kind of Worship they gave Bush until 2006, is being used by supporters of the visitors, despite having no connections to Nazism whatsoever. That&#39;s unmistakable, and it&#39;s absurd to argue otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Is V About Obama? &#171; the m0vie blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Is V About Obama? &#171; the m0vie blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you might make the case that it means good things for the show in the medium-term: Want to piss off the left? Everybody watch every single episode of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jim_Satterfield</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 03:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could it be that some who see Obama in this show never saw the original mini-series and TV series? Just maybe.</description>
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		<title>By: JSpencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>JSpencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well this is great. Now I&#039;m wondering if I could scales under my skin too. Maybe I&#039;ll just unplug the TV... for now.</description>
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		<title>By: dduck12</title>
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		<dc:creator>dduck12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK,  I really got disturbed when I watched V.  I thought what will happen to all those guys that sell umbrellas, their families, their suppliers, the manufacturers, so on and so on.  Those big things in the sky will cause a mini-depression for those folks what with no rain or snow.  (To say nothing of the extra green house gases emitted as people turn on more lights.)&lt;br&gt;Quickly, I reread Brave new World, 1984 and Fahrenheit 491 and saw the parallels. These authors were ahead of their times and anticipated the charming Mr. O. (Yes, he charmed the press, and us, he did not &quot;manipulate&quot; it)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK,  I really got disturbed when I watched V.  I thought what will happen to all those guys that sell umbrellas, their families, their suppliers, the manufacturers, so on and so on.  Those big things in the sky will cause a mini-depression for those folks what with no rain or snow.  (To say nothing of the extra green house gases emitted as people turn on more lights.)<br />Quickly, I reread Brave new World, 1984 and Fahrenheit 491 and saw the parallels. These authors were ahead of their times and anticipated the charming Mr. O. (Yes, he charmed the press, and us, he did not &#8220;manipulate&#8221; it)</p>
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		<title>By: JSpencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>JSpencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right pac, that is some seriously disingenuous %#$^. Rick is trying to have it both ways. Sorry dude, that *&amp;%^ doesn&#039;t fly.</description>
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		<title>By: pacatrue</title>
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		<dc:creator>pacatrue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;quote&gt;Could it be that the outward, and unintentional parallels with Obamamania is discomfiting some on the left because the parallels to Hitler’s Germany – so obvious, so easily seen – hold implications for the ease with which many of them succumbed to the siren song being sung by the president? Not that Obama is a fascist in any way, but is Chait really upset because he and his fellow leftists might, under other circumstances and with another candidate less dedicated to constitutional order, have fallen into supporting a real fascist?&lt;quote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Uh no. Or, my more honest reaction: @#$%@^?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&lt;quote&gt;Could it be that the outward, and unintentional parallels with Obamamania is discomfiting some on the left because the parallels to Hitler’s Germany – so obvious, so easily seen – hold implications for the ease with which many of them succumbed to the siren song being sung by the president? Not that Obama is a fascist in any way, but is Chait really upset because he and his fellow leftists might, under other circumstances and with another candidate less dedicated to constitutional order, have fallen into supporting a real fascist?&lt;quote&gt;</p>
<p>Uh no. Or, my more honest reaction: @#$%@^?</p>
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		<title>By: tidbits</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/51888/v-for-villification-liberal-paradise-obama-nightmare-guest-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-228307</link>
		<dc:creator>tidbits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking as a reptilian [most lawyers are], I can only hope for fair treatment of the species as the show moves forward.  It&#039;s not easy being cold blooded, constantly seeking out heat sources to remain active.  Those among you who are warm blooded mammals would do well to learn some empathy for the plight of your reptilian brothers and sisters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking as a reptilian [most lawyers are], I can only hope for fair treatment of the species as the show moves forward.  It&#39;s not easy being cold blooded, constantly seeking out heat sources to remain active.  Those among you who are warm blooded mammals would do well to learn some empathy for the plight of your reptilian brothers and sisters.</p>
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		<title>By: JSpencer</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/51888/v-for-villification-liberal-paradise-obama-nightmare-guest-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-228289</link>
		<dc:creator>JSpencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, some folks are getting worked up about possible or imagined parallels of V to Obama, and people do need things to get worked up about - especially political junkies, but the only thing about V that bothers me so far is the derivative, formulaic production. Seems like you have to go back to the library if you want any decent SF these days. Think Alastair Reynolds for example; SF lovers who have yet to discover him are in for a genuine treat. So... are we going to be seeing pics of Obama soon showing his lizard scales beneath his skin? I guess that will be pretty tame relatively speaking, perhaps more tame than seeing Rick Moran admit to liking big hair... for example. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, some folks are getting worked up about possible or imagined parallels of V to Obama, and people do need things to get worked up about &#8211; especially political junkies, but the only thing about V that bothers me so far is the derivative, formulaic production. Seems like you have to go back to the library if you want any decent SF these days. Think Alastair Reynolds for example; SF lovers who have yet to discover him are in for a genuine treat. So&#8230; are we going to be seeing pics of Obama soon showing his lizard scales beneath his skin? I guess that will be pretty tame relatively speaking, perhaps more tame than seeing Rick Moran admit to liking big hair&#8230; for example. <img src='http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/51888/v-for-villification-liberal-paradise-obama-nightmare-guest-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-228274</link>
		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention “V” for Villification: Liberal Paradise, Obama Nightmare (Guest Voice) &#124; The Moderate Voice -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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