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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/51785/not-right-but-still-angry-guest-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-228317</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It may be safe to say the Dem/Obama momentum has at least been slowed.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They slowed it themselves, by overreach and fracture and dysfunctionality -- which they engineered themselves.  This has been the case for weeks.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The public is increasingly concerned by what they have been doing.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And the far left is not happy, either, at what they see is stalled &quot;progress.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(It was great listening to Ed Schultz yesterday afternoon!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It may be safe to say the Dem/Obama momentum has at least been slowed.&#8221;</p>
<p>They slowed it themselves, by overreach and fracture and dysfunctionality &#8212; which they engineered themselves.  This has been the case for weeks.</p>
<p>The public is increasingly concerned by what they have been doing.</p>
<p>And the far left is not happy, either, at what they see is stalled &#8220;progress.&#8221;</p>
<p>(It was great listening to Ed Schultz yesterday afternoon!)</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/51785/not-right-but-still-angry-guest-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-228316</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It&#039;s crap.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course it is.  He might be right here or there superficially, but he&#039;s frequently out of touch with what&#039;s really going on, and is substituting his DC &quot;Capital&quot; Liberal Establishment Roman Vista of the Provincial Peasantry, and his politically-motivated wishful thinking for reality time after time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It&#39;s crap.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course it is.  He might be right here or there superficially, but he&#39;s frequently out of touch with what&#39;s really going on, and is substituting his DC &#8220;Capital&#8221; Liberal Establishment Roman Vista of the Provincial Peasantry, and his politically-motivated wishful thinking for reality time after time.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/51785/not-right-but-still-angry-guest-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-228315</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As usual, Dionne is wrong, and out of touch with reality outside his little DC-centered bubble.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The vote everywhere was largely about nation-wide issues.  (The Dem mouthpieces promply claimed falsely that everywhere it was primarily about local issues.)  #1 by far was the economy and jobs.  #2, well behind, was health care, and the rest were insignificant compared to the first two.  This was also a protest vote against the Dems&#039; misbehavior, and was not a &quot;refrendum on Obama&quot; only, but on all the Dems in DC, in general.  Even that doesn&#039;t explain everything.  The New Jersey case actually involved two local issues of special interest, corruption and high property taxes, even more than the big nation-wide issues; the notorious New York contest (hyped by Dem mouthpieces and mis-described) featured a protest vote, likely against outsider interference, in the form of significant votes for the GOP candidate who quit the contest and endorsed the Democrat.  And nation-wide, there was a disparity in the voter turnout -- non-liberal voter turnout was noteworthy (with independents voting GOP typically by two to one for Democrats, proportionally), but so was the poor youth-vote and other strong-Obama-voter turnout.  It would have been different had these people (who were complacent, or as confused or as incoherent as the Dems in Washington have been in recent weeks) had been more active.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As usual, Dionne is wrong, and out of touch with reality outside his little DC-centered bubble.</p>
<p>The vote everywhere was largely about nation-wide issues.  (The Dem mouthpieces promply claimed falsely that everywhere it was primarily about local issues.)  #1 by far was the economy and jobs.  #2, well behind, was health care, and the rest were insignificant compared to the first two.  This was also a protest vote against the Dems&#39; misbehavior, and was not a &#8220;refrendum on Obama&#8221; only, but on all the Dems in DC, in general.  Even that doesn&#39;t explain everything.  The New Jersey case actually involved two local issues of special interest, corruption and high property taxes, even more than the big nation-wide issues; the notorious New York contest (hyped by Dem mouthpieces and mis-described) featured a protest vote, likely against outsider interference, in the form of significant votes for the GOP candidate who quit the contest and endorsed the Democrat.  And nation-wide, there was a disparity in the voter turnout &#8212; non-liberal voter turnout was noteworthy (with independents voting GOP typically by two to one for Democrats, proportionally), but so was the poor youth-vote and other strong-Obama-voter turnout.  It would have been different had these people (who were complacent, or as confused or as incoherent as the Dems in Washington have been in recent weeks) had been more active.</p>
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		<title>By: JeffersonDavis</title>
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		<dc:creator>JeffersonDavis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 07:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for this article, I agree with Silhouette (for once).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s crap.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The real reason people turned away the Conservative Party in New York was because they didn&#039;t want to play the obvious game that the two parties were playing.  The CP tried to undermine the GOP.  The Dems were just plugging along with some left-of-center schmuck.  The GOP right-wing decided to pressure a moderate out.  Then the PEOPLE said, &quot;bull&quot; to all of it, and elected the Democrat (who had the lowest numbers from the get-go).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;People nationwide are tired of these games.  It makes it all too obvious that both parties are screwed up beyond recognition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for this article, I agree with Silhouette (for once).</p>
<p>It&#39;s crap.</p>
<p>The real reason people turned away the Conservative Party in New York was because they didn&#39;t want to play the obvious game that the two parties were playing.  The CP tried to undermine the GOP.  The Dems were just plugging along with some left-of-center schmuck.  The GOP right-wing decided to pressure a moderate out.  Then the PEOPLE said, &#8220;bull&#8221; to all of it, and elected the Democrat (who had the lowest numbers from the get-go).</p>
<p>People nationwide are tired of these games.  It makes it all too obvious that both parties are screwed up beyond recognition.</p>
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		<title>By: JeffersonDavis</title>
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		<dc:creator>JeffersonDavis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 07:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess you don&#039;t place any responsibility for the spoiling of OUR party at the feet of the social liberals (gay and lesbian alliance) or the bastardification of unions.  I stand behind labor as I always have.  But the way the national unions are politicized is wrong.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The democratic party left me a long time ago, bro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess you don&#39;t place any responsibility for the spoiling of OUR party at the feet of the social liberals (gay and lesbian alliance) or the bastardification of unions.  I stand behind labor as I always have.  But the way the national unions are politicized is wrong.</p>
<p>The democratic party left me a long time ago, bro.</p>
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		<title>By: Father_Time</title>
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		<dc:creator>Father_Time</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blue Dogs.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Blue Dog jackasses are spoiling the democrat party from within. It is failure to get bills passed caused by a few &quot;blue dog&quot; democrats that have caused a lack of confidence in this administration.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fine. Purge the Blue Dogs. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We do not need this crap in the party anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blue Dogs.</p>
<p>Blue Dog jackasses are spoiling the democrat party from within. It is failure to get bills passed caused by a few &#8220;blue dog&#8221; democrats that have caused a lack of confidence in this administration.</p>
<p>Fine. Purge the Blue Dogs. </p>
<p>We do not need this crap in the party anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: JSpencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>JSpencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I think EJ usually has a pretty good handle on whats going on, but the most on target thing in this article is when Lautenberg says he &quot;sees an electorate in a dark mood&quot;. That dark mood is shared by left &lt;I&gt;and&lt;/I&gt; right from what I see. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Maybe the stage is being set for a new 3rd party? Nah... that would be too much to hope for. ;-) &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Something the D&#039;s had better keep in mind, and that is the quickness with which the youth vote can become disillusioned and opt out. More dynamic leadership, more action, more spine would help that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I think EJ usually has a pretty good handle on whats going on, but the most on target thing in this article is when Lautenberg says he &#8220;sees an electorate in a dark mood&#8221;. That dark mood is shared by left <i>and</i> right from what I see. </p>
<p>Maybe the stage is being set for a new 3rd party? Nah&#8230; that would be too much to hope for. <img src='http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Something the D&#39;s had better keep in mind, and that is the quickness with which the youth vote can become disillusioned and opt out. More dynamic leadership, more action, more spine would help that.</p>
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		<title>By: dduck12</title>
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		<dc:creator>dduck12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This election was too small to draw overarching conclusions, but It may be safe to say the Dem/Obama momentum has at least been slowed.  It could be that the middle has shifted a little to the right with the specter of the giant HCR cloud over a still sick economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This election was too small to draw overarching conclusions, but It may be safe to say the Dem/Obama momentum has at least been slowed.  It could be that the middle has shifted a little to the right with the specter of the giant HCR cloud over a still sick economy.</p>
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		<title>By: Silhouette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silhouette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I don&#039;t want to diminish the verve and commitment of the dems/moderates to stay together and keep the momentum going, the rest of this article is rubbish.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;I watched Christie&#039;s acceptance speech last night and the people in the audience reminded me of the pool-hall boys Samantha Bee [Daily Show] interviewed in her hilarious skit. It sounded like they were cheering on a NASCAR hero instead of a governor. I wonder if they can tell the difference when it comes to their own wellbeing? Let&#039;s say they&#039;re a little shortsided. And there were personal matters, difficulties with the incumbant that were more reflective of local issues and not reflective of &quot;how the nation sees the democratic administration&quot;..fer cryin&#039; out loud..lol..&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Nice try though. And if this article serves to pump the momentum at and just left of center to keep up the good fight against the neocons, then it serves a good purpose.&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I don&#39;t want to diminish the verve and commitment of the dems/moderates to stay together and keep the momentum going, the rest of this article is rubbish.</p>
<p>I watched Christie&#39;s acceptance speech last night and the people in the audience reminded me of the pool-hall boys Samantha Bee [Daily Show] interviewed in her hilarious skit. It sounded like they were cheering on a NASCAR hero instead of a governor. I wonder if they can tell the difference when it comes to their own wellbeing? Let&#39;s say they&#39;re a little shortsided. And there were personal matters, difficulties with the incumbant that were more reflective of local issues and not reflective of &#8220;how the nation sees the democratic administration&#8221;..fer cryin&#39; out loud..lol..</p>
<p>Nice try though. And if this article serves to pump the momentum at and just left of center to keep up the good fight against the neocons, then it serves a good purpose.</p>
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