Comments on: Congress Set to Delay Health-Care Bill

By: DLS

DLS — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:13:46 +0000

Don't worry, you kiddies out there. Your impulses are being appealed to. Pelosi will push to pass the House legislation by Saturday evening. And your impulses are protected by lib media interference — there is no way they would truthfully report on the size of the protests about this and other misdeeds.

By: DLS

DLS — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:22:31 +0000

“There simply isn't strong enough leadership, nor enough Congressmen willing to throw caution to the wind, for it to go forward now.”

Especially after the election results, they know that rushing too fast, maniacally, to enact bad legislation and lurch way too far to the left, which the mainstream rejects, is the last thing they can do.

How they untangle themselves is going to be entertaining. Now the Senate is proceeding with “climate” nonsense legislation — I wonder if the Senate at least delayed this prior to the elections to forestall any worse consequences. And, will they try again to rush (relatively) to try to get this “climate” as well as “health reform” legislation (i.e., bad legislation) passed as soon as possible, to allow time to elapse and heal wounds and permit some recovery before the elections next year? (Never mind the sillier stuff with the “climate” legislation in wanting to stupidly rush and pass something before Copenhagen next month.)

By: DLS

DLS — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:19:35 +0000

Harry Reid may be just testing public opinion about a delay (there's nothing sacred about getting a bill done and passed this year — and it's November, already!), or he may realize that numerous Dems may have second thoughts again after the elections; they're already aware of growing mainstream concern and opposition to the Dem overreach this year. (Especially with the “climate” looniess resumed now.)

It remains to be seen what the pro-”reform” crowd wants and how hard they'll push the lib Dems to move “forward,” and how rapidly. (Dems know they'll have to work fairly fast because the closer to the elections next year they get with this, the more it's likely to hurt them.)

By: DaMav

DaMav — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:07:28 +0000

shocking news after that huge victory Pelosi was just boasting about

By: ProfElwood

ProfElwood — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:28:21 +0000

I think that we're all ready to fight the MedMob (love the word), but want it done in different ways. It's sucks that there isn't a bigger set of choices to pick from.

By: dduck12

dduck12 — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:26:10 +0000

Verrrry interrrrrresting.

By: AustinRoth

AustinRoth — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:03:35 +0000

By coincidence, just came across this:

Even safe Democrats feeling at risk

By: Silhouette

Silhouette — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:22:03 +0000

How unfortunate that we all will have to bow to MedMob for months yet to come.. I propose that in the interim [because we will get our health care by golly], that all overdue health bills the People are paying, because of Med Mob's impeding this process, not weigh on the People's credit reports. They've taken enough hits via the financial disaster, the last thing We need is to suffer further harm at the hands of the MedMob delays.. And this will provide incentive for MedMob to stop delaying the inevitable.

We'll keep up the good fight all the way until next year if that is what it takes..

By: JSpencer

JSpencer — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:06:24 +0000

Sure AR, point taken, and I agree the leadership isn't strong enough. Too much namby pambyness and wasted time. Meanwhile, in the real world, outside of DC… time marches on… and on… and on…

By: AustinRoth

AustinRoth — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:49:43 +0000

JS -

Ignoring our different opinion on health care reform itself, the point I was trying to make is that this is turning into a toxic issue. There simply isn't strong enough leadership, nor enough Congressmen willing to throw caution to the wind, for it to go forward now.

The extra time is to see if the winds will change between now and sometime into next year's election cycle. If they think they can vote for it and not lose their seats, they will be much more open. Right now there is simply too much uncertainty for that to happen.

You know the old adage about sausage making and law making, I assume.

By: JSpencer

JSpencer — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:35:51 +0000

Anyway… as long as our dedicated, caring, and committed congresspersons all have nice long holiday vacations, that's the important thing. Pressing issues of the day can just wait. . . and wait . . . and wait . . . and wait . . . and. . . . .

By: DaGoat

DaGoat — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:30:34 +0000

just a week after President Barack Obama declared he was “absolutely confident” he’ll be able to sign one by then.

So by "absolutely confident" he actually meant "don't have a clue".

By: JSpencer

JSpencer — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:28:06 +0000

We've been in and out of bad economies before, and I think this particular bad economy is going to be around for awhile, but healthcare reform has gone wanting for decades, and the amount of healthcare spending is increasing steadily in it's current state, which is the whole problem. This is not a D or R problem and we are all impacted by it. If I honestly thought the R's had genuine interest and intent in addressing the problem, then I'd take their concerns more seriously, but I've been paying close enough attention for too long to be able to do that. Less “no” and more good ideas would bump the GOP creds in this area significantly.

By: AustinRoth

AustinRoth — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:06:03 +0000

And perhaps Congressional Democrats are getting cold feet after the recent elections. With the exception of a far-right carpetbagger candidate in NY-23, the message was sent loud and clear that the economy is the single most important item, and that health care is seen by too many as more spending that will hurt the economy, and there is general concern about the current direction that the Democrats are taking the country fiscally.

In the end, the first rule of politics is get elected. The second rule of politics is get re-elected. The third rule of politics is to do nothing that will interfere with either the first or second rule.

By: Rambie

Rambie — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:00:23 +0000

“I tend to think the time is now, or very soon, to get this done, and I suspect that a long delay would result not in a more substantial reform package but in a much weaker bill than the ones currently being negotiated.”

If by weaker you mean “nothing” then I agree.