Comments on: “The Pain! The Fire! It Hurts! Ohhhhhhhhhh!”

By: kathykattenburg

kathykattenburg — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:34:53 +0000

In my case, the rationalization was that the fetus growing inside me had Tay-Sachs disease, an always-fatal genetic disorder that my first child was born with and died from at the age of 3.

That was my rationalization. I can't speak for any other woman's rationalization.

By: Father_Time

Father_Time — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:27:39 +0000

Well Kathy, why would a woman want to terminate the life of a child growing inside her? It would have to be because of some dilemma she contends with, that she makes her decision to do so. I’m just wondering what these rationalizations could be that would warrant such a life ending decision?

By: Will Johnston

Will Johnston — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:37:41 +0000

Just a guess, but based on my experience as a Hill staffer, they were probably roundly ignored by staffers from both parties. Dressing up and trying to get attention like this isn't likely to get you much face time. I'd recommend a phone call and meeting.

By: tidbits

tidbits — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:23:58 +0000

This is a strange thread. If I am reading this correctly…feel free to clarify if I am not…self-identified libertarians are coming, albeit through the back door, to the defense of Mr. Anti-Freedom, Randall Terry. Seems to me that in a country, or a philosophy, that values personal freedom, abortion should be an individual moral choice, and should not be outlawed by government dictate, which is what Terry stands for regardless of his charade that this is about health care legislation.

By: kathykattenburg

kathykattenburg — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:38:58 +0000

I wonder though, Kathy, what wonderful little creature would have existed had the mother not decided it’s life was less important than her dilemma?

I'm sure I'll be sorry I asked, but what does this mean?

By: JSpencer

JSpencer — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:21:27 +0000

People like Randall Terry and his supporters have long been known to leave their brains on the doorstep when going into the world. Not only do they showcase their chock-full-of-nuts credentials, but also feed into the negative image a certain faction on the right has earned as ignorant, anti-science, superstitious, mentally challenged, etc. Not quite sure how the GOP benefits from having those folks aboard, at least not in the long run.

By: DLS

DLS — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:57:56 +0000

"Well Burning Bush in effigy kinda went out of style with Progressives after Obama was sworn in."

But not all effigies. CNN recently ran one of its shows, "Latino in America," hosted by Soledad O'Brien, who coincidentally (hmmm) wrote a book currently for sale, whose ads were interspersed on CNN along with ads for the show (the same kind of CNN racket as Sanjay Gupta and the book and series, "Cheating Death.")

The first story in the series featured Sheriff Joe Arpaio in Arizona, and a "progressive" activist who attended an anti-Arpaio, immigrants' rights (including illegal immigrants) protest against Arpaio, which featured the destruction of a pinata fashioned as an effigy of Arpaio. (The activist was criticized harshly for being filmed holding the severed head of the Arpaio pinata aloft after the destruction.)

By: Leonidas

Leonidas — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:56:22 +0000

Well Burning Bush in effigy kinda went out of style with Progressives after Obama was sworn in. The far righties have just saved the jobs in the effigy making business in danger when Obama took office, trying to make up for the far-lefties that are no longer purchasing.

By: Father_Time

Father_Time — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:53:49 +0000

I wonder though, Kathy, what wonderful little creature would have existed had the mother not decided it’s life was less important than her dilemma?

By: kathykattenburg

kathykattenburg — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 03:46:07 +0000

girly-bits, I like that. Vivid.

By: DLS

DLS — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 00:23:50 +0000

What's more remarkable than the Randall Show is its critics. Imagine if all movies and critics were so.

By: Father_Time

Father_Time — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 00:12:04 +0000

More catholic conservative values. Hate and kill until you get what you want. When it is illegal to hate and kill, they stage enactments of hate and killing.

The message: come to god and feel the pain, the glorious pain….bend over little boy and let us instruct you in the proper method of natural birth control technique….it's centuries old.

By: roro80

roro80 — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:51:32 +0000

Kathy, this is so understandable. They're the pro-life movement, so they are totally reaffirming life by burning public figures in…wait, maybe they're demonstrating their committment to life and God by whipping each othe…wait…how about this: they're showing their love for babies by dressing up in zombie costu…no, you're right. That make no friggin sense at all. One might say that they're totally full of sh*t when they call themselves “pro-life” or baby-lovers or whatever other crap excuse they use to try and gain control of what's going on in my girly-bits. Yep, I think that's it.

By: DLS

DLS — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:21:43 +0000

"it's nothing that extraordinary from the likes of Terry, in fact [...] ("Anti-abortion protestors" on ideological steroids [...] may or may not have read the actual legislation"

What follows from this?

a) Did he and his people even read the legislation first, or did they not care?

b) This is before House-Senate conference, and before Obama signs a bill. What will they do for an encore?

By: DLS

DLS — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:04:33 +0000

"Hell-o, Nancy and Harry. Welcome to HELL!"

Yes, it all [sic; it's nothing that extraordinary from the likes of Terry, in fact] is about abortion -- not "choice," as dishonest and cowardly people like you quoted call it but abortion, as the people at Talking Points correctly called it. ("Anti-abortion protestors" on ideological steroids)

Saner people will say, it has to do with what's on pages 109 and 110 of the 1,990-page House legislation, even if this doesn't involve Randall and his organization, who may or may not have read the actual legislation.

(A lesser role is played by pages 147-149, 182, 246, 1354, 1359, 1421, and 1942.)

http://docs.house.gov/rules/health/111_ahcaa.pdf