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By: uberVU - social comments

uberVU - social comments — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 07:32:00 +0000

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By: DLS

DLS — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:30:10 +0000

To some, Election Day, 1980 (or January 20, 1981), is A Day Which Will Live in Infamy.

(Thom Hartmann: "[Everything was fabulous!] And then: Along Came REAGAN [snarling]...")

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/politics/20...

By: casualobserver

casualobserver — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:40:41 +0000

Do you guys ever get tired of just sitting around and chewing on those famous grapes?

By: Father_Time

Father_Time — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:17:26 +0000

. We don't want to move forward the way the conservatives “move forward”, because everything just gets worse and WORSE. Conservatism IS the problem and America is waking up to that fact. It is amazing how many propaganda artists out there that conservatives need to employ just to keep the population confused.

BTW, Ronnie Raygun was a crappy President and a dupe for the ultra rich.

By: ProfElwood

ProfElwood — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 05:17:49 +0000

I don't have MSF's gift of speech, but I have to agree that there are a lot of intelligent, sensible people in all ideologies. There's been a tendency lately to attack people instead of their arguments, and it's leading us away from useful discussion. More frightening, there's a lot of people who will defend their ideology against the facts. For instance, the Glass-Steagall Act, which was passed after the Great Depression to stabilize banks, was repealed by a solid majority of both parties. But I constantly hear Democrat lovers blaming Republicans, and Republican lovers blaming Democrats, for this act of fiscal insanity. If someone proves the plurality that did it, they stick to their point — 'cause reality got it wrong. No ideology works perfect every time, and claiming that it does only lowers the standard of discourse.

By: TheMagicalSkyFather

TheMagicalSkyFather — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 01:12:28 +0000

No...just no. Many conservatives are of a much more calm sane rational and well thought out variety it is just that they have become marginalized over the last ten years or so. But no not everything conservative is bad and not everything liberal is good, sure this vein of it makes me want to grab a pitchfork but these shouters are standing on the heads of many good people who just happen to disagree not only with the current brand of Dem but usually with jackasses like this. People like this are the problem not our conservative neighbors nor our liberal ones and people like this are in both parties. The quickest example I can think of is liberal areas that have sky high tax rates specifically to gentrify the area and raise their home values, I am thinking of areas in LA and Portland, OR specifically but NY and the Bay Area have similar problems in certain areas and cities.

The GOP is rotten to the core but so is the Dem party, the difference is that the current GOP can't move us forward but the Dems can(opinion here) but conservativisim has many good elements and many good people they are just currently being blotted out by the current megaphone wielding stiletto wearing Frankfurter version of the GOP. I mostly say this because when they become sane again we need to embrace them as the brothers that they are because this battle is not about sides its about our nation and America has no reverse, sometimes conservatives just forget that.

Reagan won not because he was a better man nor a better president but because he could move us forward when the Dems hit a dead end. They needed to de-regulate so that later they could re-regulate sanely and for a different technological age. Now I think(could be wrong but I am holding on to this until proven wrong) that is what we are now doing as ugly as the sausage is to make I think we are now headed in the other direction for a good long while.

The talking heads though will not change, those who get paid to offend and incite will offend and incite. It is not that it is new, it is that it is out in the open and in my opinion the GOP is going through a large identity crises and much like watching teenagers its an ugly thing but in the end zits and all they are still Jon from down the street.

By: Father_Time

Father_Time — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:45:55 +0000

Conservatism IS a ponzi scheme.

They destroy everything that has anything to do with human progress out of fear and greed. A few dumb ditto head conservatives on this board that try to separate themselves from their philosophy’s massive political failings and sell outs to everything from Michael Milken to Deng Xiaoping by copying Rupert Murdoch’s subversive propaganda artist rhetoric and committing lies of omission for the sake of “winning” an argument have yet to realize just how anti-American they really are.

Virtually the entire developed world is more LIBERAL than we are AND MORE PROSPEROUS! These facts cannot be denied. But boy do they try! Truth is not a conservative value.

Our little “burst” onto the world scene after WWII is over. Unless we dramatically change to the economic liberal philosophy of a more equitable distribution of wealth, emulating what is virtually the world, the funeral pyre will be ours as WE are found dead upon the ash-heap of history.

By: DLS

DLS — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:30:02 +0000

It's a more dynamic spelling for the word, or for the name of a Silicon Valley company.

(Extra bubble-head points if it's “Paradyme-dot-com”)

By: PWT

PWT — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:04:54 +0000

“Paradyme” – that reminds me of a guy used to stand down in the Wall street area (Maiden Lane) most weekdays, his phrase was, “spare a dime?”. – somehow sounds appropriate for this new paradigm.

By: DLS

DLS — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:04:06 +0000

The Democrats, who had the best chance possible to score intellectual and moral as well as political points, at the time of the “privatization” initiative by BushCo, by acting to reform and save the program, chose instead to do absolutely nothing — other than to unabashedly oppose every possible reform and rescue attempt. They, as usual, were worse — in numerous ways, much worse than merely being able to take over a federally-”overseen” mammoth institutional-investment program.

By: JSpencer

JSpencer — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:59:56 +0000

Well shoot, we could have moved up the timeline for social security falling apart if we'd only been willing to get on board that privatization bandwagon awhile back. Darn!

"Go ahead, vote for Republicans in 2010. They won’t change this national paradigm but skew it even further towards the wealthy." ~ MP

You can bet your last dollar on that. Keep shrinking the middle class, widen the gap...

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By: DLS

DLS — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:38:18 +0000

"the greatest Ponzi scheme in over 80 years that fell apart due to greed, hubris, incompetence and arrogance"

Well, Social Security dwarfs it, by far, but that scheme hasn't fallen apart yet. It will, eventually, though.

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"I actually prefer a newer spelling for the word [']paradigm[']"

That would make it incorrect English -- written rotten.

Also, note that in keeping with the traditionalist paradigm of Taking Responsibility (and its corollary, "It's All Your Fault," as well as maybe "The Banks, Etc., Are Victims and Deserve Every Tax Dollar of Yours"), you neglected 1990s GOP lingo associated with it:

Empowerment

(also, Virtue)