Comments on: Health Care’s Heart Failure

By: DLS

DLS — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 23:08:24 +0000

” the disheartening political climate in which we live today”

The loonier lib Dems are the lunatics running the Washington asylum — overreaching to the point of fraction and failure with their health care takeover effort, which they created for and by themselves.

No, government is not your parent, and is not failing to nurture you enough. [sniffle]

By: JSpencer

JSpencer — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:19:39 +0000

I doubt it was the intent of the founding fathers to have corporate interests running the country either. So much for the sanctity of the USC.

By: TheMagicalSkyFather

TheMagicalSkyFather — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:00:07 +0000

If we judge things on constitutionality little legislation since 1864 is worth the paper it is written on.

By: JeffersonDavis

JeffersonDavis — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:24:35 +0000

Any healthcare bill out of this Congress will benefit corporate/union interests and benefit individuals little. Since it is unconstitutional in the first place, I don't like it no matter what it says.

By: JSpencer

JSpencer — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:02:02 +0000

I certainly agree with Robert Stein's assessment of Harry Reid. A less effective Senate Majority leader would be hard to find. As for the public option, even IF it is passed, the result will be significantly watered down. This from Nate Silver at 538:

"In addition, the public option that Reid hopes the Senate will vote upon is compromised in three distinct ways from the original vision of it. Firstly, states will have the right to "opt out" of it (not that big a deal, IMO). Secondly, it will be limited to negotiating its rates in the market, rather than charging Medicare rates (a very big deal). Thirdly, it will be open only to the relatively small handful of people who are eligible for the health insurance exchanges, rather than the whole country (ditto). The consensus -- and I agree with this -- is that Reid's version is still in its essence a "public option", but it's not the robust public option that progressives envisioned. For better or for worse, it really is a compromise, and a substantial compromise."

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/10/on-being...

Maybe the days of strong leadership are long gone. Maybe it's all about bowing to to powerful interests afterall... with all the dog and pony show distractions of course. Wish I felt more optimistic about this. Ah well, maybe it will be the beginning of something more... maybe.

By: shannonlee

shannonlee — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:37:40 +0000

As long as there is a public option that doesn't involve enriching private health insurance companies, I'll be happy.

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