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	<title>Comments on: Obama Declares National H1N1 Swine Flu National &#8220;Emergency&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the funniest part of this episode so far was that this declaration was made to streamline operations and reduce paperwork, etc., requirements.  (So far, none in the media reporting that have felt moved to ask just what those requirements are and whether they are cost-effective or even reasonably justified.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the funniest part of this episode so far was that this declaration was made to streamline operations and reduce paperwork, etc., requirements.  (So far, none in the media reporting that have felt moved to ask just what those requirements are and whether they are cost-effective or even reasonably justified.)</p>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/50681/obama-declares-national-h1n1-swine-flue-national-emergency/comment-page-1/#comment-225286</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 01:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno, I had a pretty good impression of Testor before this and was very happy with him defeating Conrad Burns for the Senate seat.  I thought him to be a reasonable moderate, I&#039;m not so sure now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno, I had a pretty good impression of Testor before this and was very happy with him defeating Conrad Burns for the Senate seat.  I thought him to be a reasonable moderate, I&#39;m not so sure now.</p>
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		<title>By: TheMagicalSkyFather</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/50681/obama-declares-national-h1n1-swine-flue-national-emergency/comment-page-1/#comment-225259</link>
		<dc:creator>TheMagicalSkyFather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the hell, did he just zoom to the left of Fiengold?????</description>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/50681/obama-declares-national-h1n1-swine-flue-national-emergency/comment-page-1/#comment-225219</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 16:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is the comment on this issue that I wasn&#039;t happy with:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt; When Sen. Jon Tester (D-Mont.) had his turn to question Sebelus, he raised the issue of whether the United States was &quot;entitled&quot; to the vaccine more than other nations. &quot;Why should we be more entitled, the U.S. be more entitled to that vaccine than some other country in the world?&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tester was reffering to Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius and her policy that:&lt;br&gt;“What we said is once we have 40 million doses (of the vaccine), the donation can start,” &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Well I&#039;ll tell you what right, we are paying for it.  In fact those 40 million doses do not meet the full US demand.  So if you think about it, the government will be taking the tax money of some American citizen who could use the vaccine to pay for a foreigner to get the vaccine before they do.   Sebelus&#039;s position here is bad enough, Testor&#039;s is ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the comment on this issue that I wasn&#39;t happy with:</p>
<blockquote><p> When Sen. Jon Tester (D-Mont.) had his turn to question Sebelus, he raised the issue of whether the United States was &#8220;entitled&#8221; to the vaccine more than other nations. &#8220;Why should we be more entitled, the U.S. be more entitled to that vaccine than some other country in the world?&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Tester was reffering to Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius and her policy that:<br />“What we said is once we have 40 million doses (of the vaccine), the donation can start,” </p>
<p>Well I&#39;ll tell you what right, we are paying for it.  In fact those 40 million doses do not meet the full US demand.  So if you think about it, the government will be taking the tax money of some American citizen who could use the vaccine to pay for a foreigner to get the vaccine before they do.   Sebelus&#39;s position here is bad enough, Testor&#39;s is ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: archangel</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/50681/obama-declares-national-h1n1-swine-flue-national-emergency/comment-page-1/#comment-225173</link>
		<dc:creator>archangel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 05:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI T-Steel and Sil, there was no shut down of the constitutional question thread from what I can tell. The comments came in pretty regular in timing as I just checked their dock times. It might have been a glitch with something else Sil. It wasnt TMV.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;thanks&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;dr.e</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI T-Steel and Sil, there was no shut down of the constitutional question thread from what I can tell. The comments came in pretty regular in timing as I just checked their dock times. It might have been a glitch with something else Sil. It wasnt TMV.</p>
<p>thanks</p>
<p>dr.e</p>
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		<title>By: karenvogel</title>
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		<dc:creator>karenvogel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 02:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;national emergency stuff&quot; is not PR-related hype.  It is an administrative step taken so that hospitals and local governments are able &quot;to speedily set up alternate sites for treatment and triage procedures if needed to handle any surge of patients...&quot; (NY Times).  Such a step is akin to the President declaring a particular geographic site a &quot;disaster area&quot; after a hurricane, say, or a tornado - the disaster-area designation makes available funds from FEMA towards immediate aid and future reconstruction.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am a bit confused about why people are worried, however.  A normal flu season kills 36,000 and hospitalizes 200,000.  This flu has killed 1,000 and has hospitalized 20,000.  And they are saying it is already at its peak.  Doesn&#039;t that mean it is less virulent than the &quot;normal&quot; seasonal flu?  Can anyone explain this to me (nicely)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;national emergency stuff&#8221; is not PR-related hype.  It is an administrative step taken so that hospitals and local governments are able &#8220;to speedily set up alternate sites for treatment and triage procedures if needed to handle any surge of patients&#8230;&#8221; (NY Times).  Such a step is akin to the President declaring a particular geographic site a &#8220;disaster area&#8221; after a hurricane, say, or a tornado &#8211; the disaster-area designation makes available funds from FEMA towards immediate aid and future reconstruction.</p>
<p>I am a bit confused about why people are worried, however.  A normal flu season kills 36,000 and hospitalizes 200,000.  This flu has killed 1,000 and has hospitalized 20,000.  And they are saying it is already at its peak.  Doesn&#39;t that mean it is less virulent than the &#8220;normal&#8221; seasonal flu?  Can anyone explain this to me (nicely)?</p>
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		<title>By: ThurmanHart</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThurmanHart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 00:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to be the one to pee in the pool, but this is way overblown.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ve seen people comparing this to the 1918 flu, which infected one out of every three persons in the world and killed at least fifty million.  To date, only &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2009/10/23/nearly_5000_swine_flu_deaths_reported_worldwide&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;5,000 people have died&lt;/a&gt; throughout the entire world.  Each death is a tragedy, but we have to keep this in perspective.  All together, there are only 414,000 laboratory confirmed cases.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is serious, of course.  But it isn&#039;t the dire impending doom it&#039;s being made out to be.  It surely isn&#039;t a national crisis.  H1N1 hits earlier that normal flu, but it also peaks earlier - and it tends to peak six weeks after it first hits.  That means it should be peaking in the next week or two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to be the one to pee in the pool, but this is way overblown.</p>
<p>I&#39;ve seen people comparing this to the 1918 flu, which infected one out of every three persons in the world and killed at least fifty million.  To date, only <a href="http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2009/10/23/nearly_5000_swine_flu_deaths_reported_worldwide" rel="nofollow">5,000 people have died</a> throughout the entire world.  Each death is a tragedy, but we have to keep this in perspective.  All together, there are only 414,000 laboratory confirmed cases.</p>
<p>This is serious, of course.  But it isn&#39;t the dire impending doom it&#39;s being made out to be.  It surely isn&#39;t a national crisis.  H1N1 hits earlier that normal flu, but it also peaks earlier &#8211; and it tends to peak six weeks after it first hits.  That means it should be peaking in the next week or two.</p>
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		<title>By: JSpencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>JSpencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 00:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hope you&#039;re feeling better soon. Not much fun being under the weather... regardless of the cause.</description>
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		<title>By: TheMagicalSkyFather</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/50681/obama-declares-national-h1n1-swine-flue-national-emergency/comment-page-1/#comment-225111</link>
		<dc:creator>TheMagicalSkyFather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 23:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Earlier in the week I thought I had just eaten something I was allergic too but now I have random bouts of chills convulsions and fever that are far beyond normal for a flu.  It will give me time to watch some movies though lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Earlier in the week I thought I had just eaten something I was allergic too but now I have random bouts of chills convulsions and fever that are far beyond normal for a flu.  It will give me time to watch some movies though lol.</p>
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		<title>By: T-Steel</title>
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		<dc:creator>T-Steel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 22:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I view the &quot;national emergency&quot; stuff as PR-related hype.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ya most likely.  But I don&#039;t have a huge problem with it.  Seems like a CYA statement to me.  Put it out there just in case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I view the &#8220;national emergency&#8221; stuff as PR-related hype.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ya most likely.  But I don&#39;t have a huge problem with it.  Seems like a CYA statement to me.  Put it out there just in case.</p>
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		<title>By: T-Steel</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/50681/obama-declares-national-h1n1-swine-flue-national-emergency/comment-page-1/#comment-225092</link>
		<dc:creator>T-Steel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 22:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no idea why that thread was closed Sil but it&#039;s open now.  Thanks for the heads up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no idea why that thread was closed Sil but it&#39;s open now.  Thanks for the heads up.</p>
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		<title>By: Silhouette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silhouette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 21:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are your symptoms Magical Sky Father?&lt;br&gt;[and why was the constitutional question thread closed for further comment?]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are your symptoms Magical Sky Father?<br />[and why was the constitutional question thread closed for further comment?]</p>
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		<title>By: DaGoat</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaGoat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 20:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Any move to paint this as a failure for Obama is pure spin. Maybe some things are not about Obama.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Obama&#039;s administration had considerably more warning about this than Bush ever did with Katrina.  The government predicted 120 million H1N1 vaccines by now, we have 11 million.  Even allowing for production problems their estimates were way off.  Will Sibelius play the Michael Brown role?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The saving grace is that despite the deaths, which are tragic, so far the H1N1 flu isn&#039;t even as bad as many of the seasonal varieties.  The great majority of people do fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Any move to paint this as a failure for Obama is pure spin. Maybe some things are not about Obama.</i></p>
<p>Obama&#39;s administration had considerably more warning about this than Bush ever did with Katrina.  The government predicted 120 million H1N1 vaccines by now, we have 11 million.  Even allowing for production problems their estimates were way off.  Will Sibelius play the Michael Brown role?</p>
<p>The saving grace is that despite the deaths, which are tragic, so far the H1N1 flu isn&#39;t even as bad as many of the seasonal varieties.  The great majority of people do fine.</p>
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		<title>By: TheMagicalSkyFather</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheMagicalSkyFather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 19:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I searched everywhere for the flu shot for the last few weeks, and as of yesterday I have H1N1 and it sucks lol.</description>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 19:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It isn&#039;t too late and this stance from President Obama is fine.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I view the &quot;national emergency&quot; stuff as PR-related hype.  I never was caught up in the storm of earlier sensationalism about H1N1 or any panic about getting vaccinated (or thought much of the other related stories such as requiring health-service workers to get vaccinated).  I also don&#039;t view it as a government conspiracy.  (Government bungling, maybe, but much of it is just indicative of the whole administration.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It isn&#39;t too late and this stance from President Obama is fine.&#8221;</p>
<p>I view the &#8220;national emergency&#8221; stuff as PR-related hype.  I never was caught up in the storm of earlier sensationalism about H1N1 or any panic about getting vaccinated (or thought much of the other related stories such as requiring health-service workers to get vaccinated).  I also don&#39;t view it as a government conspiracy.  (Government bungling, maybe, but much of it is just indicative of the whole administration.)</p>
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		<title>By: Almoderate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Almoderate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 19:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now before I say this, let me say that I think panicking due to the flu is completely ridiculous.  I wouldn&#039;t have called it a national emergency.  It&#039;s the flu-- swine or not.  Yes, it&#039;s particularly nasty, but it&#039;s still the flu.  It&#039;s not sudden death if you&#039;re the typical person who catches it.  You won&#039;t love it, but it&#039;s not a death sentence.  It&#039;s the flu.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That being said, I get the flu shot these days.  Ever since I was pregnant I got it.  Why?  Well, nobody is going to argue that science is perfect, but as my doctor told me, there are far more (and worse) problems caused due to complications with the flu than problems caused due to complications with the flu shot.  I like my odds with the shot better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now before I say this, let me say that I think panicking due to the flu is completely ridiculous.  I wouldn&#39;t have called it a national emergency.  It&#39;s the flu&#8211; swine or not.  Yes, it&#39;s particularly nasty, but it&#39;s still the flu.  It&#39;s not sudden death if you&#39;re the typical person who catches it.  You won&#39;t love it, but it&#39;s not a death sentence.  It&#39;s the flu.</p>
<p>That being said, I get the flu shot these days.  Ever since I was pregnant I got it.  Why?  Well, nobody is going to argue that science is perfect, but as my doctor told me, there are far more (and worse) problems caused due to complications with the flu than problems caused due to complications with the flu shot.  I like my odds with the shot better.</p>
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		<title>By: Obama Declares National H1N1 Swine Flu National “Emergency” &#124; H1N1DEATHS.US</title>
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		<title>By: Obama Declares National H1N1 Swine Flu National “Emergency” &#124; H1N1INFLUENZAVIRUS.US</title>
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		<title>By: T-Steel</title>
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		<dc:creator>T-Steel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 18:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It isn&#039;t too late and this stance from President Obama is fine.  The whole successful/not successful angle is irrelevant in my opinion.  There seems to be issues in the mass manufacturing of the vaccine that is slowing things down.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But government (both sides) have been slow on the uptake.  I don&#039;t think that scientists in general were trying just scare everyone when they declared we would be where we are now concerning H1N1 spreading months ago.  But as always, the political posturing slows things down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It isn&#39;t too late and this stance from President Obama is fine.  The whole successful/not successful angle is irrelevant in my opinion.  There seems to be issues in the mass manufacturing of the vaccine that is slowing things down.</p>
<p>But government (both sides) have been slow on the uptake.  I don&#39;t think that scientists in general were trying just scare everyone when they declared we would be where we are now concerning H1N1 spreading months ago.  But as always, the political posturing slows things down.</p>
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		<title>By: pacatrue</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/50681/obama-declares-national-h1n1-swine-flue-national-emergency/comment-page-1/#comment-225028</link>
		<dc:creator>pacatrue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 18:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any move to paint this as a failure for Obama is pure spin. Maybe some things are not about Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any move to paint this as a failure for Obama is pure spin. Maybe some things are not about Obama.</p>
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