Comments on: Has Turkey Been Lost To The West? http://themoderatevoice.com/49892/has-turkey-been-lost-to-the-west/ An Internet hub with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, indies, centrists, moderates, and right Wed, 30 May 2012 23:28:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Ron Beasley http://themoderatevoice.com/49892/has-turkey-been-lost-to-the-west/comment-page-1/#comment-223397 Ron Beasley Sat, 17 Oct 2009 23:20:06 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=49892#comment-223397 I think your right jdledell - Glick's only concern is Israel and it's all about Israel in that part of the world. I think your right jdledell – Glick's only concern is Israel and it's all about Israel in that part of the world.

]]> By: jdledell http://themoderatevoice.com/49892/has-turkey-been-lost-to-the-west/comment-page-1/#comment-223385 jdledell Sat, 17 Oct 2009 22:26:38 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=49892#comment-223385 Caroline, the sky is falling, Glick is looking at this strictly through an Israeli perspective. Israel has lost Turkey but I think it's way too premature to say Turkey is lost to the west. Turkey relationship with Israel has been on a downward slope since the 1996 Lebanon war and Gaza was the proverbial last straw. There is no question that Turkey's relationship with the West and US has been under strain since they would not agree to be a transit for Iraq war troops. Turkey has strengthened it's ties with the muslim world and even improving their relationship with the Kurds. <br><br>If you look at the situation from Turkey's eyes, why should they put all their eggs in the West's basket? What have we done to deserve Turkey's support? Most of the EU is dead set against their entrance and their NATO membership currently protects them against whom? NATO made sense when the USSR was on the prowl but not really any longer. I don't think even the secular military can stomach Israel anymore especially since Israel backed out of a deal to sell them 40 UAV's. Turkey's current negative position on Israel is a warning not to start a war with Iran (a disaster to Turkey) and a message of Turkey non-cooperation with such an endeavor. Caroline, the sky is falling, Glick is looking at this strictly through an Israeli perspective. Israel has lost Turkey but I think it's way too premature to say Turkey is lost to the west. Turkey relationship with Israel has been on a downward slope since the 1996 Lebanon war and Gaza was the proverbial last straw. There is no question that Turkey's relationship with the West and US has been under strain since they would not agree to be a transit for Iraq war troops. Turkey has strengthened it's ties with the muslim world and even improving their relationship with the Kurds.

If you look at the situation from Turkey's eyes, why should they put all their eggs in the West's basket? What have we done to deserve Turkey's support? Most of the EU is dead set against their entrance and their NATO membership currently protects them against whom? NATO made sense when the USSR was on the prowl but not really any longer. I don't think even the secular military can stomach Israel anymore especially since Israel backed out of a deal to sell them 40 UAV's. Turkey's current negative position on Israel is a warning not to start a war with Iran (a disaster to Turkey) and a message of Turkey non-cooperation with such an endeavor.

]]> By: Don Quijote http://themoderatevoice.com/49892/has-turkey-been-lost-to-the-west/comment-page-1/#comment-223384 Don Quijote Sat, 17 Oct 2009 22:24:23 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=49892#comment-223384 <blockquote>Not getting invited into the EU wasn't helpful either..</blockquote><br><br>You do realize that the letters "EU" stand for <b>European</b> Union, and that 95% of Turkey is not in Europe... <br>You do also realize that the EU has just absorbed all the former East European Communist countries, and that it is going to take at least 25 more years to bring the standard of living in these countries in line with that of Western Europe.

Not getting invited into the EU wasn't helpful either..

You do realize that the letters “EU” stand for European Union, and that 95% of Turkey is not in Europe…
You do also realize that the EU has just absorbed all the former East European Communist countries, and that it is going to take at least 25 more years to bring the standard of living in these countries in line with that of Western Europe.

]]> By: shannonlee http://themoderatevoice.com/49892/has-turkey-been-lost-to-the-west/comment-page-1/#comment-223373 shannonlee Sat, 17 Oct 2009 22:05:27 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=49892#comment-223373 Not getting invited into the EU wasn't helpful either.... Not getting invited into the EU wasn't helpful either….

]]> By: Don Quijote http://themoderatevoice.com/49892/has-turkey-been-lost-to-the-west/comment-page-1/#comment-223372 Don Quijote Sat, 17 Oct 2009 21:57:15 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=49892#comment-223372 ROTFLMAO!!!<br><br>Every secular government in the Middle East has been undermined and overthrown by the west, since they generally have had the bad taste of being socialist, nationalist and having Oil...<br><br>The other thing to keep in mind is that when bombs start falling the US media show us the bombs being loaded onto the airplane and the bombs being dropped, the Arab media on the other hand shows the bombs landing and the damage done by said bombs... ROTFLMAO!!!

Every secular government in the Middle East has been undermined and overthrown by the west, since they generally have had the bad taste of being socialist, nationalist and having Oil…

The other thing to keep in mind is that when bombs start falling the US media show us the bombs being loaded onto the airplane and the bombs being dropped, the Arab media on the other hand shows the bombs landing and the damage done by said bombs…

]]> By: Ron Beasley http://themoderatevoice.com/49892/has-turkey-been-lost-to-the-west/comment-page-1/#comment-223338 Ron Beasley Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19:02:57 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=49892#comment-223338 This should come as no surprise after the west effectively declared war on the entire Muslim world after 911. That may not have been their intent but that was the message that was telegraphed. This should come as no surprise after the west effectively declared war on the entire Muslim world after 911. That may not have been their intent but that was the message that was telegraphed.

]]> By: JSpencer http://themoderatevoice.com/49892/has-turkey-been-lost-to-the-west/comment-page-1/#comment-223331 JSpencer Sat, 17 Oct 2009 17:37:10 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=49892#comment-223331 I once had hopes that Turkey would prove to be a country in the region that turned out to be an example of the triumph of rational thought and secularism over radical religion, afterall, there was some glimmering of promise in that area at one time. So much for that hope... I once had hopes that Turkey would prove to be a country in the region that turned out to be an example of the triumph of rational thought and secularism over radical religion, afterall, there was some glimmering of promise in that area at one time. So much for that hope…

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