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	<title>Comments on: (Guest Voice) Texas Mysteries: Did &#8216;Perry’s Office&#8217; Pressure Commission Chair To Drop Innocence Investigation?</title>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 21:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What is the Texas Forensic Science Commission doing investigating anyone&#039;s &#039;innocence&#039;?&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That&#039;s a good point.  It caught my eye given that I&#039;ve noticed something similar in Washington, DC, one of many things wrong there -- an example being the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, not the Department of Energy or Commerce, devising (ridiculous) motor vehicle fuel economy regulations.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;NHTSA sets fuel economy standards for cars and light trucks sold in the U.S.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/portal/fueleconomy.jsp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/portal/fueleconomy.jsp&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What is the Texas Forensic Science Commission doing investigating anyone&#39;s &#39;innocence&#39;?&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#39;s a good point.  It caught my eye given that I&#39;ve noticed something similar in Washington, DC, one of many things wrong there &#8212; an example being the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, not the Department of Energy or Commerce, devising (ridiculous) motor vehicle fuel economy regulations.</p>
<p>&#8220;NHTSA sets fuel economy standards for cars and light trucks sold in the U.S.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/portal/fueleconomy.jsp" rel="nofollow">http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/portal/fueleconomy.jsp</a></p>
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		<title>By: spirasol</title>
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		<dc:creator>spirasol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 09:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well it seems like the smoke is getting thicker.............perhaps there is a fire.  I guess things are proceeding as they should.  I hope it does lead to some action, some consequence, personal or political and that there is some teaching, some moral to the story..........how it ends, hopefully not in atypical coverup.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Even though accused as a &quot;scumbag,&quot; which may, by accident and fate and opinion, be his only crime, I say it demeans us all to base justice on his station in life or on another&#039;s perception of the value of his life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well it seems like the smoke is getting thicker&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.perhaps there is a fire.  I guess things are proceeding as they should.  I hope it does lead to some action, some consequence, personal or political and that there is some teaching, some moral to the story&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.how it ends, hopefully not in atypical coverup.  </p>
<p>Even though accused as a &#8220;scumbag,&#8221; which may, by accident and fate and opinion, be his only crime, I say it demeans us all to base justice on his station in life or on another&#39;s perception of the value of his life.</p>
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		<title>By: ordinarysparrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>ordinarysparrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 01:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Mr. Elijah Sweete for keeping us posted on this ongoing situation and perhaps Gov. Perry will get tripped up in his own bindings. . .i am hoping this is getting full attention in the Texas media. . .all too often cover-ups become more bitter pills than the original truths. . . &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot; The early explorers, archeologists, anthropologists without aerial or depth sensor equipment for penetrating views, didnt know and often couldnt even imagine ‘what lay beneath,’ until they traveled there first person and went into the brush to see the evidences and their relationship to other evidences, precisely.&quot;. . . .so very true dr.e. . . .&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;may all darkness come to the point of light in this case. . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Mr. Elijah Sweete for keeping us posted on this ongoing situation and perhaps Gov. Perry will get tripped up in his own bindings. . .i am hoping this is getting full attention in the Texas media. . .all too often cover-ups become more bitter pills than the original truths. . . </p>
<p>&#8221; The early explorers, archeologists, anthropologists without aerial or depth sensor equipment for penetrating views, didnt know and often couldnt even imagine ‘what lay beneath,’ until they traveled there first person and went into the brush to see the evidences and their relationship to other evidences, precisely.&#8221;. . . .so very true dr.e. . . .</p>
<p>may all darkness come to the point of light in this case. . . .</p>
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		<title>By: EEllis</title>
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		<dc:creator>EEllis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 00:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I disagree...and so does very-pro-death-penalty Kay Bailey Hutchinson&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That&#039;s campaign politics. I have no doubt that Kay would have been just as unhappy with the far ranging nature of the commission. As for cover up, why bother? No One Will Care. nobodies mind will be changed, nothing will be proved. Willingham was such a scumbag that even innocent no one would mind that he is dead. I think the commission was wasting time and state money and it mattered only to the anti death penalty people, almost all of whom are out of state. It has to matter to merit a cover up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I disagree&#8230;and so does very-pro-death-penalty Kay Bailey Hutchinson&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#39;s campaign politics. I have no doubt that Kay would have been just as unhappy with the far ranging nature of the commission. As for cover up, why bother? No One Will Care. nobodies mind will be changed, nothing will be proved. Willingham was such a scumbag that even innocent no one would mind that he is dead. I think the commission was wasting time and state money and it mattered only to the anti death penalty people, almost all of whom are out of state. It has to matter to merit a cover up.</p>
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		<title>By: tidbits</title>
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		<dc:creator>tidbits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 00:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re welcome to your opinion EEllis.  I disagree...and so does very-pro-death-penalty Kay Bailey Hutchinson.  What Perry is doing is a cover-up, and you don&#039;t cover something up unless you think you have something to hide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#39;re welcome to your opinion EEllis.  I disagree&#8230;and so does very-pro-death-penalty Kay Bailey Hutchinson.  What Perry is doing is a cover-up, and you don&#39;t cover something up unless you think you have something to hide.</p>
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		<title>By: EEllis</title>
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		<dc:creator>EEllis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 23:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The statute cited by Ellis, both paragraphs B and C, more than justify what the commission was doing&quot;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Not the way I read it and definitely not how it is being portrayed (as a innocence investigation). At best &lt;BR&gt;(referring to to the arson conclusion in the Willingham case) it would of said that the report should have stated that it was unable to determine the cause of the fire. This is not a judicial or criminal commity so the idea that that finding would prove Willinghams innocence is absurd and factually untrue. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;If the commision starts going off half cocked getting involved in things the Gov doesn&#039;t believe they should be doing then he should tell them and take action. If they had over reached and were investigating things that were not their business then maybe not releasing Docs that legally mean nothing and have no legal finding makes sense. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;If they wanted to investigate the arson investigator then that would have made sense. But that isn&#039;t what happened is it. Why not? Why take on this much more expansive case that is clearly arguably outside their purview?&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The statute cited by Ellis, both paragraphs B and C, more than justify what the commission was doing&#8221;</p>
<p>Not the way I read it and definitely not how it is being portrayed (as a innocence investigation). At best <br />(referring to to the arson conclusion in the Willingham case) it would of said that the report should have stated that it was unable to determine the cause of the fire. This is not a judicial or criminal commity so the idea that that finding would prove Willinghams innocence is absurd and factually untrue. </p>
<p>If the commision starts going off half cocked getting involved in things the Gov doesn&#39;t believe they should be doing then he should tell them and take action. If they had over reached and were investigating things that were not their business then maybe not releasing Docs that legally mean nothing and have no legal finding makes sense. </p>
<p>If they wanted to investigate the arson investigator then that would have made sense. But that isn&#39;t what happened is it. Why not? Why take on this much more expansive case that is clearly arguably outside their purview?</p>
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		<title>By: tidbits</title>
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		<dc:creator>tidbits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 23:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The statute cited by EEllis, both paragraphs B and C, more than justify what the commission was doing.  The Willingham investigation was about the science of the arson report that led to Willingham&#039;s conviction.  Calling it an innocence investigation may be misstating what they were doing, but if the evidence (science) turned up bad, an innocence investigation is what it would amount to, or at least it would put a lot of doubt in the case.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Still doesn&#039;t answer the question of the governor interfering with the commission or refusing to release the execution review documents or pressuring the commision chair to drop the investigation.  If it walks like a cover-up, and quacks like a cover-up, there&#039;s a pretty good chance it&#039;s a cover-up.  Even conservative R&#039;s like Hutchinson are using the term cover-up to describe Perry&#039;s conduct.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;At this point it&#039;s as much about Perry&#039;s conduct as it is Willingham&#039;s guilt or innocence.  People want fair, honest and transparent government, and it doesn&#039;t look like they&#039;re getting that in Texas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The statute cited by EEllis, both paragraphs B and C, more than justify what the commission was doing.  The Willingham investigation was about the science of the arson report that led to Willingham&#39;s conviction.  Calling it an innocence investigation may be misstating what they were doing, but if the evidence (science) turned up bad, an innocence investigation is what it would amount to, or at least it would put a lot of doubt in the case.</p>
<p>Still doesn&#39;t answer the question of the governor interfering with the commission or refusing to release the execution review documents or pressuring the commision chair to drop the investigation.  If it walks like a cover-up, and quacks like a cover-up, there&#39;s a pretty good chance it&#39;s a cover-up.  Even conservative R&#39;s like Hutchinson are using the term cover-up to describe Perry&#39;s conduct.</p>
<p>At this point it&#39;s as much about Perry&#39;s conduct as it is Willingham&#39;s guilt or innocence.  People want fair, honest and transparent government, and it doesn&#39;t look like they&#39;re getting that in Texas.</p>
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		<title>By: EEllis</title>
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		<dc:creator>EEllis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 23:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the Texas Forensic Science Commission doing investigating anyone&#039;s &quot;innocence&quot;? Investigating the science of the arson report maybe, but that is not in any fashion investigating &quot;innocence&quot;. That is not their job and outside their mission. Maybe they needed to be shut down if they were that off track.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Texas Forensic Science Commission was created&lt;br&gt;by the Texas Legislature in 2005 for the purpose of:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A.     Developing &amp; implementing a reporting system through which accredited laboratories, facilities, or entities report professional negligence or  misconduct&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;B.     Requiring all laboratories, facilities, or entities that conduct forensic analyses to report professional negligence or misconduct to the commission&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;C.     Investigating, in a timely manner, any allegation of professional negligence or misconduct that  would substantially affect the integrity of the results of a forensic analysis conducted by an accredited laboratory, facility or entity.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Maybe they felt they were doing C but then they should only be focused on the science and why a case where the guy was already executed? I can see why the gov thought they were going off point. This is a new agency and it is reasonable to disagree but why would this Commission be used like this? It&#039;s and end run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the Texas Forensic Science Commission doing investigating anyone&#39;s &#8220;innocence&#8221;? Investigating the science of the arson report maybe, but that is not in any fashion investigating &#8220;innocence&#8221;. That is not their job and outside their mission. Maybe they needed to be shut down if they were that off track.</p>
<p>The Texas Forensic Science Commission was created<br />by the Texas Legislature in 2005 for the purpose of:</p>
<p>A.     Developing &#038; implementing a reporting system through which accredited laboratories, facilities, or entities report professional negligence or  misconduct</p>
<p>B.     Requiring all laboratories, facilities, or entities that conduct forensic analyses to report professional negligence or misconduct to the commission</p>
<p>C.     Investigating, in a timely manner, any allegation of professional negligence or misconduct that  would substantially affect the integrity of the results of a forensic analysis conducted by an accredited laboratory, facility or entity.</p>
<p>Maybe they felt they were doing C but then they should only be focused on the science and why a case where the guy was already executed? I can see why the gov thought they were going off point. This is a new agency and it is reasonable to disagree but why would this Commission be used like this? It&#39;s and end run.</p>
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		<title>By: tidbits</title>
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		<dc:creator>tidbits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 22:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This story just gets stranger and stranger.  The comments from fellow R&#039;s are pretty rough.  And, why not release the execution review materials?  Between that and what he did to the commission, it raises a lot of questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This story just gets stranger and stranger.  The comments from fellow R&#39;s are pretty rough.  And, why not release the execution review materials?  Between that and what he did to the commission, it raises a lot of questions.</p>
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		<title>By: D. E.Rodriguez</title>
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		<dc:creator>D. E.Rodriguez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 21:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, dr. e., for continuing to update us on this story.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dorian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, dr. e., for continuing to update us on this story.</p>
<p>Dorian</p>
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