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	<title>Comments on: Jon Stewart on the &#8216;Franken Anti-Government-Contractor Rape Liability Bill&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: The Franken anti rape immunity legislation bill - Page 13 - U.S. Politics Online: A Political Discussion Forum</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 07:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Franken anti rape immunity legislation bill - Page 7 - U.S. Politics Online: A Political Discussion Forum</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 01:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mikkel</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 00:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I got what was coming to me since I hadn&#039;t read the thing. Normally I go out of my way to do so, since the media is often wrong, but this time I remembered the case from way back when and it was consistent in what they were saying. Anyway if that stuff wasn&#039;t affected by the contract I&#039;m not sure why the focus isn&#039;t on that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I got what was coming to me since I hadn&#39;t read the thing. Normally I go out of my way to do so, since the media is often wrong, but this time I remembered the case from way back when and it was consistent in what they were saying. Anyway if that stuff wasn&#39;t affected by the contract I&#39;m not sure why the focus isn&#39;t on that.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Rape is Rape!&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That never was disputed.  That never was even the real issue here.  Emotive fuel by the lefties, though, for legislation sought for other reasons, and developing a predictable pattern of behavior in Congress, though (the _real_ issue -- [sigh]).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Rape is Rape!&#8221;</p>
<p>That never was disputed.  That never was even the real issue here.  Emotive fuel by the lefties, though, for legislation sought for other reasons, and developing a predictable pattern of behavior in Congress, though (the _real_ issue &#8212; [sigh]).</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the cheer predictability...&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Catcalls at me from the peanut gallery are nothing new, I know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the cheer predictability&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Catcalls at me from the peanut gallery are nothing new, I know.</p>
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		<title>By: The Franken anti rape immunity legislation bill - Page 4 - U.S. Politics Online: A Political Discussion Forum</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Franken anti rape immunity legislation bill - Page 3 - U.S. Politics Online: A Political Discussion Forum</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: RSS agregator &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Franken anti rape immunity legislation bill</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 04:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually the complaint was filed not for a coverup but for the assault and what is described as the company&#039;s &quot;boys will be boys&quot; attitude and her not being aware of the dangers involved.  A coverup is not mentioned in the complaint section that was filed. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You can read the filed complaint itsself here:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/texas/txedce/1:2007cv00295/103217/1/0.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-c...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Always best to look at the actual legal documents as opposed to a news story or late night comedian when dealing with a lawsuit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually the complaint was filed not for a coverup but for the assault and what is described as the company&#39;s &#8220;boys will be boys&#8221; attitude and her not being aware of the dangers involved.  A coverup is not mentioned in the complaint section that was filed. </p>
<p>You can read the filed complaint itsself here:<br /><a href="http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/texas/txedce/1:2007cv00295/103217/1/0.html" rel="nofollow">http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-c&#8230;</a></p>
<p>Always best to look at the actual legal documents as opposed to a news story or late night comedian when dealing with a lawsuit.</p>
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		<title>By: D. E.Rodriguez</title>
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		<dc:creator>D. E.Rodriguez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 04:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. I can not believe what I am reading here, albeit I stopped reading after someone said something to the effect  that we should not expect companies to protect women employees from being raped because they are in a war zone; that these women were not forced to sign a piece of paper; that bad things happen in a war zone, that these women are adults,that these women wanted a big paycheck, so they should accept the risk of being raped..... &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Perhaps I should have read more, Perhaps such comments were later retracted...&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;I am sorry, guys, Rape is Rape! War zone or no war zone! Signed piece of paper or no piece of paper! Contract or no contract  Big company or no big company&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;If companies can not provide adequate security for their women employees in a war zone, then they should not hire women, or they should be forced to provide such protection&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;  Justy an opinion.  have at it&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. I can not believe what I am reading here, albeit I stopped reading after someone said something to the effect  that we should not expect companies to protect women employees from being raped because they are in a war zone; that these women were not forced to sign a piece of paper; that bad things happen in a war zone, that these women are adults,that these women wanted a big paycheck, so they should accept the risk of being raped&#8230;.. </p>
<p>Perhaps I should have read more, Perhaps such comments were later retracted&#8230;</p>
<p>I am sorry, guys, Rape is Rape! War zone or no war zone! Signed piece of paper or no piece of paper! Contract or no contract  Big company or no big company</p>
<p>If companies can not provide adequate security for their women employees in a war zone, then they should not hire women, or they should be forced to provide such protection</p>
<p>  Justy an opinion.  have at it</p>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 04:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; I don&#039;t believe that women raped in the military are not required to sign away rights to sue the perpetrators, any commanding officers who turn a blind eye, or anyone else involved. Why should civilian women raped in a war zone by colleagues be any different?&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If this was directed at me you misread my comments I suggest you revisit them.  As I said there I do not believe that the women in question here signed away any rights to sue the perpetrators, just the company they worked for.  Two very different things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> I don&#39;t believe that women raped in the military are not required to sign away rights to sue the perpetrators, any commanding officers who turn a blind eye, or anyone else involved. Why should civilian women raped in a war zone by colleagues be any different?</p></blockquote>
<p>If this was directed at me you misread my comments I suggest you revisit them.  As I said there I do not believe that the women in question here signed away any rights to sue the perpetrators, just the company they worked for.  Two very different things.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 04:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; Leo, the provisions are specifically about co-workers raping other co-workers. Are you suggesting that war zones are more likely to trigger co-workers attacking one another?&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Can you produce them please since I have not read them and you seem to have?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for rapes by co-workers being more or less likely in a warzone, I&#039;d guess yes, War is hell and some of those co-workers might not be American citizens but Iraqis who have a lesser regard for women.  Also it really doesn&#039;t matter so much whether its more or less likely, the point is that the company recognizes there are dangers in a warzone due to the fact that they can&#039;t manage the enviroment like they could in a more stable place.  They have other jobs to do such as supporting the troops who are putting their lives on the line and can&#039;t devote the same type of time and resources to personel issues.  A warzone is not Park Avenue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> Leo, the provisions are specifically about co-workers raping other co-workers. Are you suggesting that war zones are more likely to trigger co-workers attacking one another?</p></blockquote>
<p>Can you produce them please since I have not read them and you seem to have?</p>
<p>As for rapes by co-workers being more or less likely in a warzone, I&#39;d guess yes, War is hell and some of those co-workers might not be American citizens but Iraqis who have a lesser regard for women.  Also it really doesn&#39;t matter so much whether its more or less likely, the point is that the company recognizes there are dangers in a warzone due to the fact that they can&#39;t manage the enviroment like they could in a more stable place.  They have other jobs to do such as supporting the troops who are putting their lives on the line and can&#39;t devote the same type of time and resources to personel issues.  A warzone is not Park Avenue.</p>
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		<title>By: tidbits</title>
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		<dc:creator>tidbits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 01:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CO -&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;You asked, &quot;However, should not the evaluation of &quot;unenforceable provisions&quot; be handled through the legal system of due process as opposed to Congress?&quot;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;The way it works is that it can be handled by either the legal system or the legislature. That&#039;s why my prior comment referred to &quot;contravening legislation or court action&quot;.&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CO -</p>
<p>You asked, &#8220;However, should not the evaluation of &#8220;unenforceable provisions&#8221; be handled through the legal system of due process as opposed to Congress?&#8221;</p>
<p>The way it works is that it can be handled by either the legal system or the legislature. That&#39;s why my prior comment referred to &#8220;contravening legislation or court action&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: tidbits</title>
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		<dc:creator>tidbits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 01:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My dear misguided waif -&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Truth told, I agree with much of what you say, but I really liked that salutation.  :-)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Much in legal marketing of the type you describe depends on the sensitivity of the case and the skill of the lawyer in dealing with the press.  Some are very good.  Some god-awful.  And, some, unable to win their case in court will use their skills to raise a public firestorm in hopes of getting legislative action, as in the Lilly Leadbetter case and, I suspect this one.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Big Corps and Big Ins have the bucks for most of the brightest and the best from major law firms who will throw a team of 10-20 lawyers, clerks, investigator, paralegals, etc. at a case like this.  It&#039;s hard for a lawyer or two to keep pace.  Burying plaintiffs lawyers in paper, motions, etc. is part of the game, and all you need is one sympathetic judge to get it thrown out of court.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You are clearly correct though.  There is no such thing as a contract that can&#039;t be broken.  This one sounds like an &quot;adhesion&quot; contract...i.e. company wrote it, you sign it if you want the work, no negotiating the terms allowed.  Adhesion contracts are generally construed against the party writing the contract, so there should have been some room to attack the contract for the plaintiff.  Would be interesting to know what happened.  Of course, my first professional acclaim came when I won a case by proving a railroad isn&#039;t a railroad.  Go figure.  The law is a stranger to logic sometimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My dear misguided waif -</p>
<p>Truth told, I agree with much of what you say, but I really liked that salutation.  <img src='http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Much in legal marketing of the type you describe depends on the sensitivity of the case and the skill of the lawyer in dealing with the press.  Some are very good.  Some god-awful.  And, some, unable to win their case in court will use their skills to raise a public firestorm in hopes of getting legislative action, as in the Lilly Leadbetter case and, I suspect this one.</p>
<p>Big Corps and Big Ins have the bucks for most of the brightest and the best from major law firms who will throw a team of 10-20 lawyers, clerks, investigator, paralegals, etc. at a case like this.  It&#39;s hard for a lawyer or two to keep pace.  Burying plaintiffs lawyers in paper, motions, etc. is part of the game, and all you need is one sympathetic judge to get it thrown out of court.</p>
<p>You are clearly correct though.  There is no such thing as a contract that can&#39;t be broken.  This one sounds like an &#8220;adhesion&#8221; contract&#8230;i.e. company wrote it, you sign it if you want the work, no negotiating the terms allowed.  Adhesion contracts are generally construed against the party writing the contract, so there should have been some room to attack the contract for the plaintiff.  Would be interesting to know what happened.  Of course, my first professional acclaim came when I won a case by proving a railroad isn&#39;t a railroad.  Go figure.  The law is a stranger to logic sometimes.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Quijote</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Quijote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 00:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;My only involvement on this thread was to expose the stunt by Franken as the political far-left stunt that it is, &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That&#039;s what I love about you DLS and the other Republicans/Conservatives, the cheer predictability...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If the &quot;Dirty F**ken Hippies&quot; came out in favor of Motherhood and Drug Criminalization, you would rail against them and come in favor of Abortion and Cheap Drugs...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>My only involvement on this thread was to expose the stunt by Franken as the political far-left stunt that it is, </p></blockquote>
<p>That&#39;s what I love about you DLS and the other Republicans/Conservatives, the cheer predictability&#8230;</p>
<p>If the &#8220;Dirty F**ken Hippies&#8221; came out in favor of Motherhood and Drug Criminalization, you would rail against them and come in favor of Abortion and Cheap Drugs&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JSpencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>JSpencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;I don&#039;t defend rape, or any company failing to provide reasonable security.&quot; ~ DLS&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nice to see you finally make a concise and coherent statement on this. Thank-you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;I don&#39;t defend rape, or any company failing to provide reasonable security.&#8221; ~ DLS</i></p>
<p>Nice to see you finally make a concise and coherent statement on this. Thank-you.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Instead, you take everything as an attack on &#039;your side&#039;, as partisian&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Actually, I don&#039;t.  While I&#039;ve been more willing than before to push back, hard, it&#039;s not partisan in any sense that I&#039;m a Republican, for I&#039;m not.  The real explanation is that I&#039;m not hesitant to sidestep the superficialities and zero in on the _real_ issue, which may disappoint those who are preoccupied with what has them so upset or what they otherwise consider much more pressing or important, to them.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In this case, it&#039;s another example of Franken demonstrating the kind of politician he wishes to be, which lies in a context of similar, left-wing Dems feeling increasingly ambitious and eager to flex their political muscles (to the point of overreach and liability among all but the farther-left public), which includes agenda that features a Bush-Cheney-revanchism &quot;motif&quot; or theme.  (&quot;Truth commission&quot; revival, soon?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Instead, you take everything as an attack on &#39;your side&#39;, as partisian&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, I don&#39;t.  While I&#39;ve been more willing than before to push back, hard, it&#39;s not partisan in any sense that I&#39;m a Republican, for I&#39;m not.  The real explanation is that I&#39;m not hesitant to sidestep the superficialities and zero in on the _real_ issue, which may disappoint those who are preoccupied with what has them so upset or what they otherwise consider much more pressing or important, to them.</p>
<p>In this case, it&#39;s another example of Franken demonstrating the kind of politician he wishes to be, which lies in a context of similar, left-wing Dems feeling increasingly ambitious and eager to flex their political muscles (to the point of overreach and liability among all but the farther-left public), which includes agenda that features a Bush-Cheney-revanchism &#8220;motif&#8221; or theme.  (&#8220;Truth commission&#8221; revival, soon?)</p>
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		<title>By: archangel</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/49622/jon-stewart-on-the-franken-anti-government-contractor-rape-liability-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-222772</link>
		<dc:creator>archangel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks mikkel. I dont know which &#039;stories&#039; gain traction between the law and media (they make money on the long legged legal stories too, and that factor has to be weighed into what rises to the surface too) and defendents. But, I think we can know some of the factors that go into long-lived stories. If we stacked ten of the most followed legal &#039;suspense&#039; stories over the last ten years, and looked for their congruent points, I think we&#039;d see a dozen or so factors tthey all carry... longevity/imagination/twist and turn factors... that at least are compelling in imaginations of those who daily pursue cable news/ legal, mags, nps and specific case sites/ blogs.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Having been in proximity to a couple such cases, those hooks or factors seem to me, to defy the rational sometimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks mikkel. I dont know which &#39;stories&#39; gain traction between the law and media (they make money on the long legged legal stories too, and that factor has to be weighed into what rises to the surface too) and defendents. But, I think we can know some of the factors that go into long-lived stories. If we stacked ten of the most followed legal &#39;suspense&#39; stories over the last ten years, and looked for their congruent points, I think we&#39;d see a dozen or so factors tthey all carry&#8230; longevity/imagination/twist and turn factors&#8230; that at least are compelling in imaginations of those who daily pursue cable news/ legal, mags, nps and specific case sites/ blogs.</p>
<p>Having been in proximity to a couple such cases, those hooks or factors seem to me, to defy the rational sometimes.</p>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention Jon Stewart on the ‘Franken Anti-Government-Contractor Rape Liability Bill’ &#124; The Moderate Voice -- Topsy.com</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/49622/jon-stewart-on-the-franken-anti-government-contractor-rape-liability-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-222787</link>
		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Jon Stewart on the ‘Franken Anti-Government-Contractor Rape Liability Bill’ &#124; The Moderate Voice -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Hans Spee and adamnielsen, Georgia Democrat. Georgia Democrat said: Chambliss and Isakson Defend Rapists http://bit.ly/1vlHlI #gapolitics #politics #georgia #rape #gop #republican #women #kbr #halliburton [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Hans Spee and adamnielsen, Georgia Democrat. Georgia Democrat said: Chambliss and Isakson Defend Rapists <a href="http://bit.ly/1vlHlI" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/1vlHlI</a> #gapolitics #politics #georgia #rape #gop #republican #women #kbr #halliburton [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mikkel</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/49622/jon-stewart-on-the-franken-anti-government-contractor-rape-liability-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-222769</link>
		<dc:creator>mikkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dr. e you bring up a more general point that I question. Basically, the news cycle has been condensed to approximately 12 hours, and revelations after the fact are shrugged off. There is undeniable evidence that torture policies were crafted at the highest level of government. Multiple ex-Bush officials said explicitly that his team had been jonesing to invade Iraq from day one and the whole WMD was a pretext. William Jefferson was caught (literally) with a freezer of payoffs and still got reelected. Nearly every single top contractor with the US government has been caught stealing hundreds of millions to billions of tax payer money -- multiple times!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;These days, those things have captured the public imagination at most as much as the manufactured hot story of the day about some inane celebrity. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now I am sympathetic to the idea that in the legal circles the type of fame and publicity is different, and if they could get to the Supreme court...well. That said, I&#039;d be really interested in whether the PR calculus has changed over the decades. If this is a hotly contested legal issue that they could advance through the courts and get a new ruling about these matters, that&#039;s one thing, but if it&#039;s just a one and done, I wonder if it&#039;d even be worth it for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dr. e you bring up a more general point that I question. Basically, the news cycle has been condensed to approximately 12 hours, and revelations after the fact are shrugged off. There is undeniable evidence that torture policies were crafted at the highest level of government. Multiple ex-Bush officials said explicitly that his team had been jonesing to invade Iraq from day one and the whole WMD was a pretext. William Jefferson was caught (literally) with a freezer of payoffs and still got reelected. Nearly every single top contractor with the US government has been caught stealing hundreds of millions to billions of tax payer money &#8212; multiple times!</p>
<p>These days, those things have captured the public imagination at most as much as the manufactured hot story of the day about some inane celebrity. </p>
<p>Now I am sympathetic to the idea that in the legal circles the type of fame and publicity is different, and if they could get to the Supreme court&#8230;well. That said, I&#39;d be really interested in whether the PR calculus has changed over the decades. If this is a hotly contested legal issue that they could advance through the courts and get a new ruling about these matters, that&#39;s one thing, but if it&#39;s just a one and done, I wonder if it&#39;d even be worth it for them.</p>
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