Comments on: Should Rush Buy an NFL Team? Why Not? http://themoderatevoice.com/49356/should-rush-buy-an-nfl-team-why-not/ An Internet hub with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, indies, centrists, moderates, and right Thu, 16 May 2013 08:44:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Democrat Congresswoman Bashes Rush Limbaugh on House Floor | linkthe.com http://themoderatevoice.com/49356/should-rush-buy-an-nfl-team-why-not/comment-page-1/#comment-222402 Democrat Congresswoman Bashes Rush Limbaugh on House Floor | linkthe.com Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:54:53 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=49356#comment-222402 [...] Should Rush Buy an NFL Team? Why Not? (themoderatevoice.com) [...]

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By: CStanley http://themoderatevoice.com/49356/should-rush-buy-an-nfl-team-why-not/comment-page-1/#comment-222322 CStanley Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:25:32 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=49356#comment-222322 He actually mainly satirizes race baiters (as in the comments that shannonlee alluded to about 'white kids in Obama's America.')

The trouble is though that like all celebrities, he wants to have his cake and eat it too. He enjoys stirring the pot, and profits by the publicity it gets him to say provocative things. The things themselves, when properly understood, are not racist (I don't believe he is racist at all, to be frank.) But he deliberately frames things in a way that is easily misunderstood, so that lines taken out of context are used against him (by which he profits from the extra media attention.)

But now that the media narrative and image that he's built up is hampering his attempt to buy this team, he is playing the victim. It's a lot like general celebrity love/hate relationship with paparazzi. I don't have much sympathy with them because they reaped the benefits and then also have to pay the price.

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By: Is There a Coverup in the Coffee at MSNBC’s “Morning Joe”? | artoftalk.tv http://themoderatevoice.com/49356/should-rush-buy-an-nfl-team-why-not/comment-page-1/#comment-222287 Is There a Coverup in the Coffee at MSNBC’s “Morning Joe”? | artoftalk.tv Wed, 14 Oct 2009 06:27:15 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=49356#comment-222287 [...] Should Rush Buy an NFL Team? Why Not? (themoderatevoice.com) Pimp this Post: [...]

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By: kritt11 http://themoderatevoice.com/49356/should-rush-buy-an-nfl-team-why-not/comment-page-1/#comment-222275 kritt11 Wed, 14 Oct 2009 04:19:05 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=49356#comment-222275 If not a racist, a race-baiter, which is even worse.

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By: 2sayf http://themoderatevoice.com/49356/should-rush-buy-an-nfl-team-why-not/comment-page-1/#comment-222257 2sayf Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:42:55 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=49356#comment-222257 If Rush's comments about McNabb weren't enough there are rumors he is planning on renaming the team the 'St. Louis Monkeys' which has come under fire from NFL.
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By: shannonlee http://themoderatevoice.com/49356/should-rush-buy-an-nfl-team-why-not/comment-page-1/#comment-222246 shannonlee Wed, 14 Oct 2009 00:46:11 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=49356#comment-222246 His comments on McNabb alone smack of racism. White kids in Obama's america…. he's a racist. That being said, he hasn't publicly said, “I hate black people”. He says enough to get his point across without actually saying it…which is why the NFL won't allow him ownership.

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By: CharlieScene http://themoderatevoice.com/49356/should-rush-buy-an-nfl-team-why-not/comment-page-1/#comment-222228 CharlieScene Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:40:09 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=49356#comment-222228 Well, I don't listen to Rush's radio show, so can someone tell me what “racist” comments he has made that A: were not taken completely out of context or B: made up on wikiquote and then cited by idiots like Jack Huberman.

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By: tidbits http://themoderatevoice.com/49356/should-rush-buy-an-nfl-team-why-not/comment-page-1/#comment-222217 tidbits Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:52:03 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=49356#comment-222217 Let's see. The Rams have about 17% as much talent as the average NFL team. Rush is the ideological darling of about 17% of the population. Match made in heaven!

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By: shannonlee http://themoderatevoice.com/49356/should-rush-buy-an-nfl-team-why-not/comment-page-1/#comment-222216 shannonlee Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:48:51 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=49356#comment-222216 What? Not a J-Lo fan?

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By: DLS http://themoderatevoice.com/49356/should-rush-buy-an-nfl-team-why-not/comment-page-1/#comment-222207 DLS Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:24:35 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=49356#comment-222207 I'll just add (I waited for someone else to have the chance to post it first) that last night's game was a reminder again about hypocrisy — it's okay for some celebrities to be team owners, so long as they aren't objects of liberal-orthodox hatred. Who are the owners of the Miami Dolphins football club?

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By: DLS http://themoderatevoice.com/49356/should-rush-buy-an-nfl-team-why-not/comment-page-1/#comment-222178 DLS Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:38:11 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=49356#comment-222178 [NFL going to Los Angeles]

“It's not only the Holy Grail”

It's like the Westerners going to China with dreams of getting rich from the World's Greatest Market.

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By: DLS http://themoderatevoice.com/49356/should-rush-buy-an-nfl-team-why-not/comment-page-1/#comment-222177 DLS Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:36:38 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=49356#comment-222177 “LA isn't an NFL city.”

I know. Even before I lived there for a while, I knew. It's not only the Holy Grail (because of the size of the broadcast market as well as the metro area and potential attendence, on paper), but as I have written elsewhere, a city of “perpetual promise” or something like that (evoking post-World-War-II idealists' views decades ago about Brasil, such as during the time of creation of Brasilia as the capital, but which for so long has been met with reality that deflates the idealism — it “has great promise and it always will,” which remains the cynical view of LA). There's so much to do in LA that football is just one of many options, and there hasn't been that much interest. That's why Al Davis's sojurn failed, and why the Rams left. That is also why I have not only thought about LA, but about other cities, and why I have used Orlando as an example of an alternative growing, probably-ambitious Sun Belt destination for the team. Los Angeles? Good luck; others have tried, and they have failed. Even if the NFL (all the clubs and all the people paying extra for tickets to attend games everywhere) builds the new team a brand new stadium, there's no guarantee of success.

“If one of the other bidding ownership groups offers the same type of money and the guarantee of remaining in St. Louis, I would be surprised if NFL owners don't select the lower risk and less controversial investors.”

Certainly the children would cheer Limbaugh's Defeat if that were to happen. [rolling eyes] But the most sound decision is what should be made, in an ideal world. If Limbaugh, fine, if others, fine, too.

Insofar as staying in St. Louis, would the new owners try to hold up the city (as has already been asked aloud by one writer) for a new stadium?

I would prefer the team stay there, as I like St. Louis, and I wish it would get its Redbirds stuff back.

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By: kritt11 http://themoderatevoice.com/49356/should-rush-buy-an-nfl-team-why-not/comment-page-1/#comment-222176 kritt11 Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:33:39 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=49356#comment-222176 Maybe Rush can prove the superiority of the white race by hiring the only all white team in the NFL:-(

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By: ModDem72 http://themoderatevoice.com/49356/should-rush-buy-an-nfl-team-why-not/comment-page-1/#comment-222162 ModDem72 Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:00:45 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=49356#comment-222162 They should definitely get the Cardinals nickname back. It is a crucial part of the city's sports history.

And I really truly don't care if a bunch of NFL owners allow Rush to join their elite little group, especially if he get out of Checketts way and let him run day-to-day operations.

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By: ModDem72 http://themoderatevoice.com/49356/should-rush-buy-an-nfl-team-why-not/comment-page-1/#comment-222159 ModDem72 Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:55:16 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=49356#comment-222159 We are getting ahead of ourselves. Limbaugh and Checketts are one of a variety ownership groups, and to be honest I think the odds are against Rush. If one of the other bidding ownership groups offers the same type of money and the guarantee of remaining in St. Louis, I would be surprised if NFL owners don't select the lower risk and less controversial investors.

Of course, the Dittoheads and others supporters will probably scream the NFL is being PC or its too scared. What they fail to realize is that perception and the dreaded PC does in fact impact business and the bottom line.

If Limbaugh/Checketts do offer more cash and location guarantee, it will be interest to see how much of a public role Rush will take as liberals and Dems money is just as valuable as Republicans money, and St. Louis continues to be a very Dem town.

Personally, it doesn't really matter to me. I am a Seahawks fan… so I already root against the Rams.

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By: shannonlee http://themoderatevoice.com/49356/should-rush-buy-an-nfl-team-why-not/comment-page-1/#comment-222158 shannonlee Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:50:28 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=49356#comment-222158 LA is only used as a threat by the NFL to convince host cities to build new stadiums instead of new roads. LA isn't an NFL city. The NFL doesn't like being a second class sport in any town. In LA, they would be behind the Lakers, USC football, UCLA basketball and the Dodgers.

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By: DLS http://themoderatevoice.com/49356/should-rush-buy-an-nfl-team-why-not/comment-page-1/#comment-222154 DLS Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:45:13 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=49356#comment-222154 Oops — the following may be too challenging, but some need to learn from it if they can, nevertheless.

Should Greg Louganis be stripped of his Olympic awards and gays prevented from Olympic participation on “morality” or other “socially conservative” grounds?

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By: DLS http://themoderatevoice.com/49356/should-rush-buy-an-nfl-team-why-not/comment-page-1/#comment-222152 DLS Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:43:16 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=49356#comment-222152 “The concern is that Limbaugh's ownership of an NFL franchise would be bad for pro football in general.”

Or merely for the Rams. The thing to do is to find out what consequences may actually be serious — removed from the resentful kids' stuff we're routinely seeing, which is largely a temper tantrum and another eruption of viciousness underlying political correctness and similar politics. Would there be refusals of players actually to play? (They should be banned from playing anywhere, not only on the Rams, if they refuse to play for or against the Rams.) Would there be boycotts, losses of sponsors? Think here of Glenn Beck and the diseased hatred directed at him from so many, versus true effects on the programming's ratings and any true, real-world loss of sponsorship and advertising and other revenue.

The main issue with the Rams remains as before: Once it is sold, will the team stay in St. Louis (which I hope it does; I do wish the club could exchange name, insignia, etc., with the Phoenix Cardinals someday, though, and return these “Cardinal” things to St. Louis), or will it be moved, such as to LA?

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By: shannonlee http://themoderatevoice.com/49356/should-rush-buy-an-nfl-team-why-not/comment-page-1/#comment-222151 shannonlee Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:37:04 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=49356#comment-222151 Considering the motivation factor of playing a team that is owned by a racist that every opposing player will have, I can see a string of 0 win seasons for the Rams if they allow Rush to buy the team.

They won't be able to sign free agents and their draft picks will either sit out and get redrafted or bail as soon as their contracts allow. The good players, the ones that win games, will always find a way to leave.

They will be the whitest team in the NFL…which is fitting for a state that has a highway adopted by the KKK.

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By: DLS http://themoderatevoice.com/49356/should-rush-buy-an-nfl-team-why-not/comment-page-1/#comment-222150 DLS Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:36:16 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=49356#comment-222150 It's another low moment for the Left. One expression after another of hatred toward Limbaugh (who is a well-known dissenter from the Pee-Cee Conformity Uber Alles) is hypocritically made in the name of fighting “hate” [sic], and yet another thing is being politicized (at the expense of ethics and morality as well as logic) by the Left.

Normal people instead wonder — if he or if others buy the team, which is for sale, will it stay or leave?

(Orlando is a long-growing, overdue Florida city still awaiting an NFL team, and LA is still the Holy Grail.)

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By: EEllis http://themoderatevoice.com/49356/should-rush-buy-an-nfl-team-why-not/comment-page-1/#comment-222126 EEllis Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:20:05 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=49356#comment-222126 It's hard to leave politics out when he is such a polarizing figure. If it is good for the NFL is something for them to decide, if it's good for the Rams? We have a team who has lost 15 straight and is only being looked at to be moved. Rush is from the area, doesn't want to move the team, big sports fan, new money and new enthusiasm. It would be a positive move for the Rams. As to players leaving, well most of them suck and the rest would probably be talked into staying.

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By: roro80 http://themoderatevoice.com/49356/should-rush-buy-an-nfl-team-why-not/comment-page-1/#comment-222124 roro80 Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:59:29 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=49356#comment-222124 Yeah, sure this bloviating racist pig can buy whatever he wants. Gonna be hard to make any money from his investment without any black players or fans though, isn't it?

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By: shannonlee http://themoderatevoice.com/49356/should-rush-buy-an-nfl-team-why-not/comment-page-1/#comment-222104 shannonlee Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:38:18 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=49356#comment-222104 Rush is free to try to buy whatever he wants, but buying an NFL team isn't like going to Wal-Mart. The purchase has be approved by the NFL owners. I seriously doubt that they feel his ownership would be good for the NFL. It will be a publicity nightmare that will damage their product. A very valuable product that they are trying to take international. The last thing they need is a publicly racist owner.

There is no way they will allow Rush to become an owner.

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By: CNN’s Rick Sanchez Features Dubious Limbaugh Slavery Quote | linkthe.com http://themoderatevoice.com/49356/should-rush-buy-an-nfl-team-why-not/comment-page-1/#comment-222112 CNN’s Rick Sanchez Features Dubious Limbaugh Slavery Quote | linkthe.com Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:29:59 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=49356#comment-222112 [...] Should Rush Buy an NFL Team? Why Not? (themoderatevoice.com) [...]

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By: USA Today Columnist: Limbaugh Makes ‘People More Comfortable with Their Prejudices’ | linkthe.com http://themoderatevoice.com/49356/should-rush-buy-an-nfl-team-why-not/comment-page-1/#comment-222108 USA Today Columnist: Limbaugh Makes ‘People More Comfortable with Their Prejudices’ | linkthe.com Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:10:56 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=49356#comment-222108 [...] Should Rush Buy an NFL Team? Why Not? (themoderatevoice.com) [...]

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By: StockBoySF http://themoderatevoice.com/49356/should-rush-buy-an-nfl-team-why-not/comment-page-1/#comment-222101 StockBoySF Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:04:07 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=49356#comment-222101 “At the heart of the controversy are a number of comments Rush has made over the years which some observers felt were racist in nature…”

Rush can buy any team he wants.

I'm sure he would save the team lots of money by cutting salaries of certain players to be 60% of the salaries of other players on his team. Saving money in business, especially these days, is very important.

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By: kritt11 http://themoderatevoice.com/49356/should-rush-buy-an-nfl-team-why-not/comment-page-1/#comment-222095 kritt11 Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:40:48 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=49356#comment-222095 “Rush has been saying that in interviews since he got famous in the 90's. Much like him saying he is a comedian it tends to be used when he feels he needs to soften his image a bit, of course without actually making any changes”

I realized the part about him being an entertainer. It also helps his listeners justify their choice of radio stations. I mean who would want to admit that they listen to a hardcore, race-baiting, misogynist?

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By: rachelmap http://themoderatevoice.com/49356/should-rush-buy-an-nfl-team-why-not/comment-page-1/#comment-222093 rachelmap Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:33:00 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=49356#comment-222093 IMO, Rush can buy whatever he has the money to buy.

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By: TheMagicalSkyFather http://themoderatevoice.com/49356/should-rush-buy-an-nfl-team-why-not/comment-page-1/#comment-222090 TheMagicalSkyFather Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:12:00 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=49356#comment-222090 Rush has been saying that in interviews since he got famous in the 90's. Much like him saying he is a comedian it tends to be used when he feels he needs to soften his image a bit, of course without actually making any changes.

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By: kritt11 http://themoderatevoice.com/49356/should-rush-buy-an-nfl-team-why-not/comment-page-1/#comment-222082 kritt11 Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:51:33 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=49356#comment-222082 I agree with everyone. There are consequences for establishing yourself as a polarizing figure.

Already, many of the players are going on record saying that they would refuse to play for Limbaugh. He gave an interview recently which seemed to be trying to create the impression that he's largely been misunderstood by the public at large and the MSM. Would he have given the interview if he wasn't trying to acquire ownership of the team? I strongly doubt it, just as I doubt that we have misunderstood his motives or political impact.

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By: Posts about Howard Stern as of October 13, 2009 » The Daily Parr http://themoderatevoice.com/49356/should-rush-buy-an-nfl-team-why-not/comment-page-1/#comment-222096 Posts about Howard Stern as of October 13, 2009 » The Daily Parr Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:42:23 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=49356#comment-222096 [...] about Howard Stern as of October 13, 2009 Should Rush Buy an NFL Team? Why Not? – themoderatevoice.com 10/13/2009 This is the question on the lips of both sports aficionados [...]

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By: HemmD http://themoderatevoice.com/49356/should-rush-buy-an-nfl-team-why-not/comment-page-1/#comment-222079 HemmD Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:27:02 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=49356#comment-222079 jazz
You mentioned the primary reason not to allow this purchase. The value of the franchise will go down due to the fact that existing assets state they will not play for the Rams with Rush's partial ownership and future draft picks could well refuse as well.

Dave Checkets, the principal partner in this proposed purchase, currently owns the Blues hockey team, and he would not have made that purchase a few years ago if Canadians had publicly stated they would refuse to play due to contentious statements made by a co-owner.

Free speech is a right, but what you say has a cost. Maybe if Limbaugh hadn't amassed his fortune by belittling a quarterback via racial overtones, then he'd not have to face the blow back caused by his intemperate words.

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