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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Obama is Intellectual but Incompetent,&#8221; Gore Vidal</title>
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		<title>By: Madeleine M. Kunin: Eleanor Roosevelt &#8211; Uniqs.info &#124; Headline News</title>
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		<dc:creator>Madeleine M. Kunin: Eleanor Roosevelt &#8211; Uniqs.info &#124; Headline News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 12:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DQ, &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The last thing that the Democrats are going to do is play winner take all because that means that the Democrats have to take responsibility for the outcomes of their policies.  That is the last thing that the liberal, progressive culture will do.  Do you really think that the party made up of lawyers, government employees, minorities, and academics will ever accept responsibility for anything.  I doubt it. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Democrats would rather now have a policy rather than take responsibility. Look at how all of the progressive blogger keep posting constantly about an irrelevant Republican Party instead of holding any Democrat accountable for anything. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When you are the political party of nitpickers (like Ivy league trained lawyers) then do not expect to be the party of decisive policy decisions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DQ, </p>
<p>The last thing that the Democrats are going to do is play winner take all because that means that the Democrats have to take responsibility for the outcomes of their policies.  That is the last thing that the liberal, progressive culture will do.  Do you really think that the party made up of lawyers, government employees, minorities, and academics will ever accept responsibility for anything.  I doubt it. </p>
<p>The Democrats would rather now have a policy rather than take responsibility. Look at how all of the progressive blogger keep posting constantly about an irrelevant Republican Party instead of holding any Democrat accountable for anything. </p>
<p>When you are the political party of nitpickers (like Ivy league trained lawyers) then do not expect to be the party of decisive policy decisions.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Quijote</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/48868/obama-is-intellectual-but-incompetent-gore-vidal/comment-page-1/#comment-221090</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Quijote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 01:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Before there was an Ann Coulter, Gore Vidal was her liberal counterpart,&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;Bullsh*t, fifty years from now people will still be reading &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&amp;field-keywords=Gore+Vidal&amp;x=14&amp;y=10&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gore Vidal&lt;/a&gt;, how many will remember who &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&amp;field-keywords=Ann+Coulter&amp;x=0&amp;y=0&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ann Coulter&lt;/a&gt; is?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Before there was an Ann Coulter, Gore Vidal was her liberal counterpart,</p></blockquote>
<p>Bullsh*t, fifty years from now people will still be reading <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&#038;field-keywords=Gore+Vidal&#038;x=14&#038;y=10" rel="nofollow">Gore Vidal</a>, how many will remember who <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&#038;field-keywords=Ann+Coulter&#038;x=0&#038;y=0" rel="nofollow">Ann Coulter</a> is?</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 19:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder to what extent Vidal&#039;s gripes are related to current desperation and far-left impatience about health care &quot;reform&quot; or lack of other pet far-left causes that are less important and are being given less priority (along with joining everything else as being affected also by, yes, some incompetence or lib-kids&#039; ineptitude, &quot;playing government&quot; and &quot;playing nation&quot; since the stimulus at the start of the year), such as gays-in-the-military or gay marriage (in Vidal&#039;s case) or other farther-left relative trivia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder to what extent Vidal&#39;s gripes are related to current desperation and far-left impatience about health care &#8220;reform&#8221; or lack of other pet far-left causes that are less important and are being given less priority (along with joining everything else as being affected also by, yes, some incompetence or lib-kids&#39; ineptitude, &#8220;playing government&#8221; and &#8220;playing nation&#8221; since the stimulus at the start of the year), such as gays-in-the-military or gay marriage (in Vidal&#39;s case) or other farther-left relative trivia.</p>
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		<title>By: tidbits</title>
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		<dc:creator>tidbits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 17:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HemmD -&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Agree with your comment.  Before there was an Ann Coulter, Gore Vidal was her liberal counterpart, say or do the most outrageous thing possible to keep your name in the spotlight and your book sales up.</description>
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<p>Agree with your comment.  Before there was an Ann Coulter, Gore Vidal was her liberal counterpart, say or do the most outrageous thing possible to keep your name in the spotlight and your book sales up.</p>
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		<title>By: Father_Time</title>
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		<dc:creator>Father_Time</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 17:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction; Republicans don&#039;t watch them, but Republicans stopped mattering a year ago anyway so nobody that maters….cares.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction; Republicans don&#39;t watch them, but Republicans stopped mattering a year ago anyway so nobody that maters….cares.</p>
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		<title>By: shannonlee</title>
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		<dc:creator>shannonlee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 17:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vidal is just an angry old man.  He voted for Obama to see certain things happen and they haven&#039;t happened.  Like a lot of liberals, Vidal isn&#039;t getting what he wants from the President and is throwing a pity party.  Someone get this guy a crying towel...booohooo.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Vidal needs to understand that Obama is not incompetent.  Obama is intelligent.  This intelligence tells him that certain policies that liberals dislike must stay in place for the time being.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I was amazed at how quickly Clinton supporters turned their backs on her and jumped on the Obama bandwagon...now those same people are turning on Obama.  Pathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vidal is just an angry old man.  He voted for Obama to see certain things happen and they haven&#39;t happened.  Like a lot of liberals, Vidal isn&#39;t getting what he wants from the President and is throwing a pity party.  Someone get this guy a crying towel&#8230;booohooo.</p>
<p>Vidal needs to understand that Obama is not incompetent.  Obama is intelligent.  This intelligence tells him that certain policies that liberals dislike must stay in place for the time being.</p>
<p>I was amazed at how quickly Clinton supporters turned their backs on her and jumped on the Obama bandwagon&#8230;now those same people are turning on Obama.  Pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: PWT</title>
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		<dc:creator>PWT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 16:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;President Obama is NOT incompetent.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Maybe he can state that in a press conference, nobody watches them anymore anyway, since that formulation worked so well for Nixon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>President Obama is NOT incompetent.</i></p>
<p>Maybe he can state that in a press conference, nobody watches them anymore anyway, since that formulation worked so well for Nixon.</p>
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		<title>By: Father_Time</title>
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		<dc:creator>Father_Time</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 16:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>President Obama is NOT incompetent. He is just getting his sea legs. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This bitter old fart, (Vida who Gore what?), has simply lost his mojo. Besides his writing was always stodgy, cobwebbed, clabber anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>President Obama is NOT incompetent. He is just getting his sea legs. </p>
<p>This bitter old fart, (Vida who Gore what?), has simply lost his mojo. Besides his writing was always stodgy, cobwebbed, clabber anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Daily Beast&#8217;s Blumenthal Catches Ratigan Flu, Shouts Down Scarborough on &#8216;Morning Joe&#8217; &#124; linkthe.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daily Beast&#8217;s Blumenthal Catches Ratigan Flu, Shouts Down Scarborough on &#8216;Morning Joe&#8217; &#124; linkthe.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 15:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: HemmD</title>
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		<dc:creator>HemmD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 15:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears all who have commented here haven&#039;t taken the time to consider the disengenuous nature of Vidal&#039;s &quot;quotes.&quot;  Consider that this man has made his living by pricking the inflated egos of individuals as well as the American people.  His novel &quot;Burr,&quot; a ficticious account of the founding fathers as related by our almost 2nd president, Arron Burr, is a case in point  When it came out, the furor it caused was due to his portayals of Jefferson and Hamiliton as rabid egotists and fools.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Vidal debated William F Buckley over the US constitution on Jack Paar&#039;s show in 1968, and he so infuriated Buckley by his comments that Bill called him a &quot;queer&quot; on national TV.  Vidal&#039;s is an intellectual Don Rickles, he insults and negates everybody.  That&#039;s his shtick.  His political/philosophic beliefs are secondary to his acerbic personality.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Careful reading of the interview also shows the man pretends to have no inner reflection, or at least, he wishes you to believe that.  Exposing his own foibles would be far too dangerous to such a man.  He puts on a front of outward acid criticism and icy internal remoteness.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My point in all this is simple.  Gore Vidal likes no one publicly, and sees every one and everything as part of the &quot;mad house&quot; he has made the point of his wit.  What he believes about Obama or Afghanistan is pretty useless in the real world.  Having said this, however, consider reading &quot;Burr.&quot; His story may have been the first to show the founding fathers in a more realistic way than the usual Hollywood version of early America.  Besides, much of the story is based upon facts gleaned from letters, newspapers, and personal accounts from the period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears all who have commented here haven&#39;t taken the time to consider the disengenuous nature of Vidal&#39;s &#8220;quotes.&#8221;  Consider that this man has made his living by pricking the inflated egos of individuals as well as the American people.  His novel &#8220;Burr,&#8221; a ficticious account of the founding fathers as related by our almost 2nd president, Arron Burr, is a case in point  When it came out, the furor it caused was due to his portayals of Jefferson and Hamiliton as rabid egotists and fools.</p>
<p>Vidal debated William F Buckley over the US constitution on Jack Paar&#39;s show in 1968, and he so infuriated Buckley by his comments that Bill called him a &#8220;queer&#8221; on national TV.  Vidal&#39;s is an intellectual Don Rickles, he insults and negates everybody.  That&#39;s his shtick.  His political/philosophic beliefs are secondary to his acerbic personality.</p>
<p>Careful reading of the interview also shows the man pretends to have no inner reflection, or at least, he wishes you to believe that.  Exposing his own foibles would be far too dangerous to such a man.  He puts on a front of outward acid criticism and icy internal remoteness.</p>
<p>My point in all this is simple.  Gore Vidal likes no one publicly, and sees every one and everything as part of the &#8220;mad house&#8221; he has made the point of his wit.  What he believes about Obama or Afghanistan is pretty useless in the real world.  Having said this, however, consider reading &#8220;Burr.&#8221; His story may have been the first to show the founding fathers in a more realistic way than the usual Hollywood version of early America.  Besides, much of the story is based upon facts gleaned from letters, newspapers, and personal accounts from the period.</p>
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		<title>By: JeffersonDavis</title>
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		<dc:creator>JeffersonDavis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am fully aware of the possibility of another Vietnam, Don.&lt;br&gt;These quickest and easiest route to that outcome is to politically shanghai it as was done in Vietnam.  If Obama puts more troops in with a clear strategy and goal, then God bless him - well done.  If he changes strategy and pulls the troops - then God bless him - well done.  If he puts his thumb in his rear end and thinks of the reelection ramifications while people die and the mission fails - then shame on him.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You stated:  &quot;We are unable to do something as simple as studying other country&#039;s health-care systems, seeing what works and duplicating and integrating the good features of these health-care systems into ours&quot;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ok great.  But the partisans in DC are unwilling to at least TRY to regulate the industries that grease their wallets - namely insurance, healthcare, pharmaceuticals, and tort/trial lawyers.&lt;br&gt;Would you at least agree to try to regulate the crap out of those first?  If that doesn&#039;t work, THEN go ahead and do the single payer.  If you were to offer that option in a poll, I&#039;m sure it would be overwhelmingly supportive of the regulation first.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And in response to your proposed legislative action for the democrats:&lt;br&gt;That is the quickest way to lose control of the Senate, and lose seats in the house.  I&#039;m a democrat, and my own representatives are going against our wishes in our state.  They will feel some pain next year for it.  If they want to hop in Obama&#039;s pocket and ignore their constituents, then they can do it as lobbyists, but they will not do it as my representatives if I have anything to say about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am fully aware of the possibility of another Vietnam, Don.<br />These quickest and easiest route to that outcome is to politically shanghai it as was done in Vietnam.  If Obama puts more troops in with a clear strategy and goal, then God bless him &#8211; well done.  If he changes strategy and pulls the troops &#8211; then God bless him &#8211; well done.  If he puts his thumb in his rear end and thinks of the reelection ramifications while people die and the mission fails &#8211; then shame on him.</p>
<p>You stated:  &#8220;We are unable to do something as simple as studying other country&#39;s health-care systems, seeing what works and duplicating and integrating the good features of these health-care systems into ours&#8221;.</p>
<p>Ok great.  But the partisans in DC are unwilling to at least TRY to regulate the industries that grease their wallets &#8211; namely insurance, healthcare, pharmaceuticals, and tort/trial lawyers.<br />Would you at least agree to try to regulate the crap out of those first?  If that doesn&#39;t work, THEN go ahead and do the single payer.  If you were to offer that option in a poll, I&#39;m sure it would be overwhelmingly supportive of the regulation first.</p>
<p>And in response to your proposed legislative action for the democrats:<br />That is the quickest way to lose control of the Senate, and lose seats in the house.  I&#39;m a democrat, and my own representatives are going against our wishes in our state.  They will feel some pain next year for it.  If they want to hop in Obama&#39;s pocket and ignore their constituents, then they can do it as lobbyists, but they will not do it as my representatives if I have anything to say about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Quijote</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Quijote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So basically President Obama has to become a dictator and &quot;terrify&quot; the political opposition? Sorry Mr. Vidal. That is the province of dictators. And we&#039;re not going to roll in that area.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;All he should do is play the game the same way the republicans do... Winner take all, no mercy... when they are down, kick them...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In legislative terms, what it boils down to is this:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Get the Democrats in a room, have them hash out their differences, write a bill and take it to the floor. Once on the floor, a straight party vote, any democrat who votes against the party for any other than pre-agreed conditions loses the support of the party and is 100% guaranteed to have a nasty primary that will either get them thrown out of office by the Democrat in the Primary or by the Republican in the General Election. If any media outlet shows pro-republican bias, you don&#039;t go on it, you cut their access to the President and his Administration, you make sure that your supporters in the media get all the goodies (Interview with the President, Off the record briefings, etc...). If they break your trust, you freeze them out.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is politics, you reward your friends, you punish your enemies. Obama isn&#039;t willing to do that, he believes that if you talk to the Republicans and offer good logical arguments they will see the errors of their ways and compromise, so far they haven&#039;t and I seriously doubt that they will anytime in the foreseeable future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So basically President Obama has to become a dictator and &#8220;terrify&#8221; the political opposition? Sorry Mr. Vidal. That is the province of dictators. And we&#39;re not going to roll in that area.</p></blockquote>
<p>All he should do is play the game the same way the republicans do&#8230; Winner take all, no mercy&#8230; when they are down, kick them&#8230;</p>
<p>In legislative terms, what it boils down to is this:</p>
<p>Get the Democrats in a room, have them hash out their differences, write a bill and take it to the floor. Once on the floor, a straight party vote, any democrat who votes against the party for any other than pre-agreed conditions loses the support of the party and is 100% guaranteed to have a nasty primary that will either get them thrown out of office by the Democrat in the Primary or by the Republican in the General Election. If any media outlet shows pro-republican bias, you don&#39;t go on it, you cut their access to the President and his Administration, you make sure that your supporters in the media get all the goodies (Interview with the President, Off the record briefings, etc&#8230;). If they break your trust, you freeze them out.</p>
<p>This is politics, you reward your friends, you punish your enemies. Obama isn&#39;t willing to do that, he believes that if you talk to the Republicans and offer good logical arguments they will see the errors of their ways and compromise, so far they haven&#39;t and I seriously doubt that they will anytime in the foreseeable future.</p>
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		<title>By: T-Steel</title>
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		<dc:creator>T-Steel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But remember – the Republican Party is not a political party. It’s a mindset, like Hitler Youth. It’s full of hatred. You’re not going to get them aboard. Don’t even try. The only way to handle them is to terrify them. He’s too delicate for that.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So basically President Obama has to become a dictator and &quot;terrify&quot; the political opposition?  Sorry Mr. Vidal.  That is the province of dictators.  And we&#039;re not going to roll in that area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But remember – the Republican Party is not a political party. It’s a mindset, like Hitler Youth. It’s full of hatred. You’re not going to get them aboard. Don’t even try. The only way to handle them is to terrify them. He’s too delicate for that.</p></blockquote>
<p>So basically President Obama has to become a dictator and &#8220;terrify&#8221; the political opposition?  Sorry Mr. Vidal.  That is the province of dictators.  And we&#39;re not going to roll in that area.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Quijote</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Quijote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;First he says: &quot;America should leave Afghanistan. We’ve failed in every other aspect of our effort...&quot;&lt;br&gt;Then he says: &quot;The Empire will collapse militarily in Afghanistan.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If the US leaves today, it&#039;s prestige will take a real beating, if it leaves 10 years from now the same way it left Vietnam, it will not only be only its prestige that will have taken a beating, but its economy and its military. It cannot afford to piss away a few trillions in the sands of Afghanistan...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I&#039;d much rather try to change our &quot;empire&quot; for the better, than to ever live under a Chinese one.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Good Luck...&lt;br&gt;We are unable to do something as simple as studying other country&#039;s health-care systems, seeing what works and duplicating and integrating the good features of these health-care systems into ours, despite the fact that our health-care cost twice as much with underwhelming outcomes.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Our financial elites are unable to think any further than the next quarter, our politicians are unable to think beyond the next election cycle, and our mass-media is no more that the propaganda outlet of Corporate America. Unless we can change those three things, and the elites that run these three sectors of our society, we are doomed...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>First he says: &#8220;America should leave Afghanistan. We’ve failed in every other aspect of our effort&#8230;&#8221;<br />Then he says: &#8220;The Empire will collapse militarily in Afghanistan.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>If the US leaves today, it&#39;s prestige will take a real beating, if it leaves 10 years from now the same way it left Vietnam, it will not only be only its prestige that will have taken a beating, but its economy and its military. It cannot afford to piss away a few trillions in the sands of Afghanistan&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>I&#39;d much rather try to change our &#8220;empire&#8221; for the better, than to ever live under a Chinese one.</p></blockquote>
<p>Good Luck&#8230;<br />We are unable to do something as simple as studying other country&#39;s health-care systems, seeing what works and duplicating and integrating the good features of these health-care systems into ours, despite the fact that our health-care cost twice as much with underwhelming outcomes.</p>
<p>Our financial elites are unable to think any further than the next quarter, our politicians are unable to think beyond the next election cycle, and our mass-media is no more that the propaganda outlet of Corporate America. Unless we can change those three things, and the elites that run these three sectors of our society, we are doomed&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: redbus</title>
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		<dc:creator>redbus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 05:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is an inherent tension between fiscal responsibility at the federal level on the one hand, and the insistence by constituents that their Congressional representatives &quot;bring home the bacon&quot; on the other hand. So our national debt is climbing to outrageous proportions. This will be the biggest topic in the next Presidential election. Mr. Obama needs to take a page from former President Clinton and be a fiscal hawk. Unfortunately, we&#039;ve seen just the opposite, and if he loses the next election - as Mr Gore in his essay seems to think he will - it will primarily be over this issue. Afghanistan and Iran, as important as those are, will play second fiddle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is an inherent tension between fiscal responsibility at the federal level on the one hand, and the insistence by constituents that their Congressional representatives &#8220;bring home the bacon&#8221; on the other hand. So our national debt is climbing to outrageous proportions. This will be the biggest topic in the next Presidential election. Mr. Obama needs to take a page from former President Clinton and be a fiscal hawk. Unfortunately, we&#39;ve seen just the opposite, and if he loses the next election &#8211; as Mr Gore in his essay seems to think he will &#8211; it will primarily be over this issue. Afghanistan and Iran, as important as those are, will play second fiddle.</p>
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		<title>By: JeffersonDavis</title>
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		<dc:creator>JeffersonDavis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 04:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First he says: &quot;America should leave Afghanistan. We’ve failed in every other aspect of our effort...&quot;&lt;br&gt;Then he says: &quot;The Empire will collapse militarily in Afghanistan.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kind of a self-fulfilling prophesy?  We should leave Afghanistan - our &quot;Empire&quot; will collapse militarily in Afghanistan.  Typical liberal nonsense.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He is correct in one thing.  If our &quot;empire&quot; collapses, the Chinese are the next ones in line.&lt;br&gt;Sounds to me like we should get our act together, don&#039;t ya think?&lt;br&gt;I&#039;d much rather try to change our &quot;empire&quot; for the better, than to ever live under a Chinese one.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Think about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First he says: &#8220;America should leave Afghanistan. We’ve failed in every other aspect of our effort&#8230;&#8221;<br />Then he says: &#8220;The Empire will collapse militarily in Afghanistan.&#8221;</p>
<p>Kind of a self-fulfilling prophesy?  We should leave Afghanistan &#8211; our &#8220;Empire&#8221; will collapse militarily in Afghanistan.  Typical liberal nonsense.</p>
<p>He is correct in one thing.  If our &#8220;empire&#8221; collapses, the Chinese are the next ones in line.<br />Sounds to me like we should get our act together, don&#39;t ya think?<br />I&#39;d much rather try to change our &#8220;empire&#8221; for the better, than to ever live under a Chinese one.</p>
<p>Think about it.</p>
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