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Afghanistan: Plenty of Advice, from “How to Win” to “How to Lose”

Afghanistan

While doing some research on the Afghanistan war for another publication, I soon discovered that there is no shortage of opinions—many of them “expert” opinions—on how to conduct and conclude that war.

It made me realize how excruciatingly difficult it must be for the president—faced with an overabundance of advisers and advice—to divine the right policy and strategy to bring that war to a satisfactory conclusion and, inextricably tied to that, to make what will probably be the most critical decision of his young presidency—whether to commit additional American troops to that war.

Not only does the president “benefit” from a deluge of advice from his cabinet, his national security advisers, Congress, the military, and dozens of other interest groups and think tanks, but he also has to deal with an even greater amount and diversity of advice and opinions from the experts and so-called experts; from the media and its editors, columnists and pundits; and even from the wannabe experts (yours truly included) from the blogosphere—although I doubt that the latter category of advice ever makes it to the screens of the White House laptops.

On Wednesday, the president chaired a three-hour meeting with, as the New York Times describes, “the vice president and an array of cabinet secretaries, intelligence chiefs, generals, diplomats and advisers,” all gathered in a windowless basement room of the White House “to chart a new course in Afghanistan.” The Times says, “The one thing everyone could agree on: None of the choices is easy.”

Given the broad spectrum of “choices” facing the president on such a critical issue, that’s probably quite an understatement.

The Times is referring to the choices offered by la crème de la crème on this national security issue. But how about advice generously offered by other “experts” and pundits?

I did a rough count of articles, editorials and opinion pieces on Afghanistan published in major publications just during the past 30 days, and I counted over 200. I did not bother to count the pieces in the numerous blogs, obviously a much larger number.

The advice the president is getting from respected journalists and opinion writers ranges from “How to Win in Afghanistan” to “How to Lose in Afghanistan,” and everything in between.

Perhaps a sign of optimism and confidence, there are several articles on how to win in Afghanistan, one of the most recent ones is written by Max Boot in the Wall Street Journal titled, you guessed it, “How to Win in Afghanistan.”

On the other hand, there is only one on “How to Lose in Afghanistan,” by the respected Anthony Cordesman, in the Washington Post. Thankfully, Cordesman’s article is constructive and realistic in tone, but warns how “any form of even limited victory will take years of further effort,” and how we can “easily lose the war” if “certain strong elements” in the White House, State Department and other agencies succeed.

As I said, there are plenty of suggestions, warnings and admonitions on the Afghanistan war.

Here are some examples, just on the issue of whether to send more troops to Afghanistan.

The titles, or the headlines, oftentimes say it all.

Let’s start straight from the top and with the most recent and probably the most important view.

Yesterday on Cnn.com: “Gates favors bolstering troops in Afghanistan, sources say.” According to this report, Obama’s top defense “adviser” is leaning toward the view that a significant number of additional combat forces will be needed for the war in Afghanistan.

And we keep reading and hearing that “McChrystal [is] to request more Afghan troops,” as reported by the Washington Times on the long-anticipated request by the top American and NATO commander in Afghanistan.

We read the warning in the Washington Post, “[McChrystal:] More Forces Or ‘Mission Failure,’” by Bob Woodward. According to Woodward, McChrystal “needs more forces within the next year and bluntly states that without them, the eight-year conflict “will likely result in failure.’”

In the Los Angeles Times, the story, “NATO chief says more troops needed in Afghanistan.”

McCain: More Troops Needed In Afghanistan,” says the Washington Times, with McCain insisting that the longer it takes to send them, “the more Americans will be put at risk.”

Writing in the Wall Street Journal, Lindsey Graham, Joseph Lieberman and John McCain write, “Only Decisive Force Can Prevail In Afghanistan,” and claim that our team “must also have the resources it needs to succeed—including a significant increase in U.S. forces.”

In the London Times, David Miliband, Britain’s Foreign Minister urges Barack Obama, “Back Your General And Send More Troops.”

Also from Britain, according to Bloomberg news, “Afghanistan Troop Increase Gets Support From U.K. Army Chief,” General David Richards.

Karl Rove of Iraq-war fame, after heaping praise on Bush’s “success” in that war and after thoroughly trashing Obama’s performance thus far, warns in the Wall Street Journal: “Obama Can’t Outsource Afghanistan,” and concludes: “ Refusing to provide all the troops and strategic support that his commanders are requesting will be to concede defeat. We’ll soon know whether Mr. Obama has the judgment and the courage to win this war.”

Max Boot says in the Los Angeles Times, “We Can’t Downsize To Success In Afghanistan,” and adds: “The president appears to be dragging his feet on more troops for the struggle, but that’s what an effective counterinsurgency strategy requires.”

How about the Afghans? Here is a snapshot at the top. According to Bloomberg News, “Afghan Envoy Calls For More Troops As U.S. Prepares Options.”

Clearly against sending more troops to Afghanistan, Conservative George Will writes in Newsweek, “Is It 1966 in Washington?”and calls for a “resolute and courageous liquidation” of an untenable position in Afghanistan.

Writing in the New York Post, Ralph Peters says, “It’s Not ‘Retreat’” to “maintain a compact, ferocious force on the ground that continues to kill our enemies,” and says that it is a “murderous lie” when we’re told, “’We can’t retreat’ — we have to surge still more troops. Otherwise, our enemies will win.”

Obama Faces Doubt Among [Leading] Democrats on Afghanistan,” and on another increase in American troops in Afghanistan, as can be seen and heard on this PBS video.

Writing in the Financial Times, Democratic congresswoman Jane Harman and Brookings Institute senior fellow Michael O’Hanlon want to “Tie Troops To Progress On Afghanistan’s Corruption,” and they outline such a plan.

Others are also doubtful.

In the Miami Herald’s “Clear Mission In Afghanistan Eludes Obama,” the writers say that many military, including boots on the ground in Afghanistan, Pentagon officials and military observers are not sure whether sending tens of thousands more troops to Afghanistan will guarantee success.

In the New York Times’ ”Fending Off Failure in Afghanistan,” we find a variety of opinions on this issue.

In “Crux Of Afghan Debate: Will More Troops Curb Terror?” Eric Schmitt and Scott Shane of the New York Times, while perhaps not answering the question directly, provide one of the most reasoned, even-handed and objective analyses of all the factors and issues involved.

How many troops will be needed to achieve victory in Afghanistan?

At the Huffington Post we read: “Classified McChrystal Report: 500,000 Troops Will Be Required Over Five Years in Afghanistan.”

According to the above article, that “bombshell was dropped by NBC reporter Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC’s Morning Joe on Wednesday.

Of course, most other estimates, and guesses, are more modest than this one.

Talking about numbers, Eugene Robinson at the Washington Post tells us that it is “More Than a Numbers Game in Afghanistan”: “What Obama needs to do is downsize the mission. Our only goals should be to satisfy ourselves that Afghanistan will not again be a terrorist haven and to leave as quickly as possible. We need to use not just force but also diplomacy — which means, yes, talking to the Taliban. Some will say this shows weakness, but the ultimate sign of weakness is failure. If we send in more troops, I fear that’s where we’re headed.”

For some interesting “calculations” on how many troops it will take to secure Afghanistan, please read Robert Mackey’s article titled, what else, “How Many Troops to Secure Afghanistan?

Finally, the most important opinion of them all: How do Americans feel about sending more troops to Afghanistan?

A September 23-24 Rasmussen Reports Poll:

Should the United States send more troops to fight the war in Afghanistan?

37% Yes
40% No
23% Not sure

A 23-24 September USA Today/Gallup Poll:

How Americans feel about sending more troops to Afghanistan

Favor sending more troops 41%

Keep same number 7%

Begin to withdraw 41%

A September 25, Gallup Poll:

“50% say they oppose sending more troops to the war torn country, while 41% say they’d support such a decision.”

  • DaGoat
    Nice roundup, DE.

    We may disagree on this point, but I think Obama's dilemma is made much more difficult by his lack of experience, I also have a sneaking suspicion his policy on Afghanistan historically was based more on winning campaigns than a true dedication to Afghanistan as a "necessary war". As a result he is having to come up with realistic policies on the fly instead of basing them on experience and strongly held principles. This is one of the 3 AM phone call moments Hillary Clinton alluded to.

    Anyone that has been following Afghanistan understands it is much different than Iraq and carries a huge potential for the US to get bogged down in a lengthy, bloody war. At this point after being at war already for so long, I think the question should be if Afghanistan is winnable at an acceptable cost. My 2 cents is the US needs to be looking for an exit strategy instead of escalation.
  • D. E.Rodriguez
    Thanks for your comments and opinion, DG.

    You are right that we will disagree on your point about Obama "having to come up with realistic policies on the fly" and "This is one of the 3 AM phone call moments Hillary Clinton alluded to."

    I say this because, Obama is not rushing into another possible quagmire based on wrong and wrongheaded advice and faulty intelligence (as his predecessor did), and this is not "the 3AM call." On the contray, Obama needs to carefully consider all advice (see my post) he is getting, calmly, deliberately and with the thought always in the back of his mind that he may be committing thousands or tens of thousands of people's sons. fathers, brothers, etc. to a possible death in Afghanistan.

    To do otherwise, to rush into such a decision---as has been done before---would be totally irresponsible.

    It's not the 3AM call (Iran may be), because whatever decision is made, it will take weeks and months to implement.







  • Father_Time
    I do not believe that a "win" as the public apparently perceives it is possible without massive infusion of men and material. I do not believe that a massive infusion of men and material is possible without a draft and solid commitment from our coalition allies. The suggestion that 30 or 40 thousand additional troops as the solution for a "win" is ludicrous IMO.

    The insurgency has done what it intended to do, it has practically bankrupt the United States. The very infrastructure that supports our military has been damaged extensively. That must be rebuilt, not drained further. Half our budget is for the military now, and, that is borrowed! We cannot sustain such costs.

    Either get commitments from the rest of the world, or, at least massively greater commitments from our coalition allies, or get the flip out before it is to late.

    One further comment: China borders Afghanistan! Why wouldn’t China consider Islamic fundamentalism a threat to national sovereignty? Surely they must. Why not invite the mighty Chinese military in to help? Say…for Taiwan?
  • shannonlee
    Personally, I think Obama should give the most weight to the advice from Gates. Gates doesn't have a political horse in this race and is only interested in the security of America. Gates has access to all of the information. Gates was successful in Iraq.

    It isn't that others don't care about our security, but they have political motivations also.
  • D. E.Rodriguez
    If there is such a thing as a "good war," our initial (emphasize "initial") thrust in Afghanistan was one of them---for all the reasons that have been recited in the past.

    While I continue to support our "involvement" there (again, for all the reasons given in the past), I am beginning to have second thoughts about committing tens of thousands additonal brave troops there, not only for reasons given by FT, but for all the historical reasons that haunt that region.

    FT, if there was a good chance that 30 or 40 thousand would do it, I might give it a chance (although those are pretty callous words to use when dealing with the lives of our brave ones). However, as we have seen too many times in the past (Vietnam, Iraq), when that doesn't do it, how about another 50,000 "or so", and another 50,000, as you have already committed so many, and you can not let the sacrifice of the previous 100,000 "or so" be for nought.

    We have seen this movie too many times...

    As I said, this is the most critical decision any president has to make. I don't envy Obama, I will not criticize him whatever decision he makes, and I hope God will give him such guidance, as He is the One we go to when all else fails.

    And, Shannonlee, I totally agree with you about Gates (except for the little technicality about Iraq). If anyone can give Obama sound advice, it will be him

    (In addition, he was President of my alma mater and served in the Air Force)







  • As I've commented before, I believe the nonmilitary solution would work better (with military protection of our personnel of course). Like this:

    The total GDP of Afghanistan is $35 billion, consisting mostly of opium, fruits and nuts, handwoven carpets, wool, cotton, hides and pelts, precious and semi-precious gems. I believe the US should buy ALL of it, essentially making us the employer of all Afghan farmers, rugmakers, gem miners and shepherds. Being the boss lets us replace the warlords and druglords, depriving them of both income and influence. It also lets us supervise Afghans and direct their efforts. Next year, we can replace all the opium with a legal crop, for which we would pay as much or more than for opium (poppy farmers typically make less than $0.50 per hectare for that crop. Peaches are worth 6 times as much). The cost, even if we dumped the entire output in the ocean, is trivial compared to the cost of war. But in fact, all those commodities have value., so we likely would lose little if anything on the deal. Further, we would hire Afghanis (not Haliburton or Bechtel) to rebuild the infrastructure. If we become the source of prosperity and progress, the call of the mullahs to join up as a suicide bomber becomes pretty empty. Will an Afghani son go to war against the very people who buy his father's rugs and peaches?
  • D. E.Rodriguez
    There is a lot of merit to what you are saying, G.D.

    We spent on the average $12 billion per month on the war in Iraq (and what have we got to show for it?). At that rate, three months of Iraq war spending would do what you are suggesting.

    Even if we just bought the entire opium crop (destroyed it or used it for medicinal puropses), and eventually replaced it with,as you say, peaches, that would be progress.

    But who are we to say?

    Thanks

    Dorian
  • Father_Time
    My blowhard commenting style notwithstanding, I may be technically incorrect, but I can only comment on what I know and what I know is undoubtedly less than Secretary Gates. Nonetheless I am compelled to comment on this particular issue out of civic duty.

    The original incursion into Afghanistan was a failure, right or wrong. We did not get Bin Laden nor destroy Al Queida. Something about not enough forces deployed near Tora Bora at a critical moment, if I remember correctly, allowing the criminals to get away. Secretary Rumsfeld being blamed for operations “on the cheap” as it were. I don’t know. Hind sight is twenty-twenty, foresight, not so much. From this, we might take away that “on the cheap” is not the answer. Leaving us in a quandary deciding just how much is enough.

    Though I have many, many questions, I will stand by this President’s decision until I realize that our forces are indeed in an out-of-control mess while we pour the last of our treasure down the outhouse hole. I did the same for President Bush. But if President Obama decides to draw down and Afghanistan falls, I know that we are left with many options, not just one.

    Part of me wants to go Gung-Ho, flat out in Afghanistan, but the rest of me still sees death and destruction of the innocent as well as our own dead vividly in my memory. It may not be possible to pay for a Gung-Ho anyway.
  • D. E.Rodriguez
    I understand everything you are saying, FT, and I agree with most of it.

    I guess the only aspect we have some differences is perhaps just due to the way we are expressing it or interpreting.

    While you say "The original incursion into Afghanistan was a failure, right or wrong.", I would say that the incursion was a failure because of the way it was executed, not because of the justification for it--and that's probably what you mean. Even in the "execution" our troops did a marvelous job (just read "The Horse Soldiers"), but as you say our troops did not get the support or additional resouces they needed because, you know, that "other war" got in the way, and some incompetents were in charge..

    Anyway, let's hope for the best. The people in Afghanistan have suffered enough, especially the elderly, the women and the children, and so are the casulalties among our troops beginning to mount.





  • shannonlee
    I have a hard time calling the initial incursion a failure. Considering what was done in such a short period of time and without months of prep work, they routed the Taliban with the help of a lot of people. As usual, Donald found a way to screw something up. Rummie was a terrible SecDef and I personally think he should be in jail right now. But Gates is a totally different person.

    If we pull out, I hope we are ok with allowing the Taliban to take control of the country again. The public execution of women, the ban on educating women, the re-institution of sharia law, and the protection of terrorists training grounds.

    I don't think we owe them anything...not like we owe the Iraqis, but we need to understand what we are permitting if we leave.
  • Dr J
    Ah, GreenDreams, socialism to the rescue again? I'm tempted to agree with you, but orchestrating the economy implies hiring and managing all the Afghanis, taking over the infrastructure, installing reliable institutions, dictating the laws...in short, making Afghanistan a U.S. colony. Are you up for that?

    As heavy-handed as it sounds, I look at how far we have to go and don't see any other path to success. The only way to keep the Taliban out of Afghanistan is to turn a bunch of $760/year goat farmers into a cohesive, modern nation able and inclined to repel them. Turning Afghanistan into another Pakistan ($2624/person/year) isn't good enough. Even turning it into another Mexico ($14,534) or Russia ($15,949) may not be enough to get it to value peace over jihad. Think South Korea ($27,692) or Israel ($28,474)--a factor of 40 above where Afghanistan is today. If we could get their GDP to grow 8% a year, they'd get there in 48 years.

    The only successful examples of that sort of nation building I'm aware of are the colonial powers of old, who were prepared to take over completely and stay for a century or so. Do we know some shortcut?
  • D. E.Rodriguez
    GD and Dr J:


    TIME has an excellent set of articles on the Afghanistan puzzle.

    In one article, "What should we do now?" two persons, quite a bit more knowledgeable of the country, the war, the issues than me, give two quite different views on what we should do in/about Afghanistan,,,that's the conundrum we find ourselves in.

    However, please keep those e-mails and letters coming
  • JeffersonDavis
    I agree with you completely when you say that the advice of Gates is key.
    He's a good man, and seems to have the military men and women (and victory) at heart.

    But on a side-note. We may be able to save a bunch of military lives, if we just shot a tactical nuke into the hindu-kush mountains. Just kiddin (or am I?).

    LOL




  • JeffersonDavis
    I think I know what GreenDreams is talking about. Not socialism, but economic manipulation.
    It's part of how we worked it with Japan and Germany after WWII.
    Theres a reason why those two countries became major trading partner with the US. It was part of the plan. If all goes well in Afghanistan, we may be buying Afghani cars in 25 years. Who knows.

    But a word of doubt to GreenDreams.... The climate and soil of Afghanistan is not good for most cash crops, let alone peaches. That's part of the infrastructure argument, I guess.
  • D. E.Rodriguez
    "The variety of the country's crops corresponds to its topography. The areas around Kandahar, Herat, and the broad Kabul plain yield fruits of many kinds. The northern regions from Takhar to Badghis and Herat and Helmand provinces produce cotton. Corn is grown extensively in Paktia and Nangarhar provinces, and rice mainly in Kunduz, Baghlan, and Laghman provinces. Wheat is common to several regions, and makes up 80% of all grain production. Aggregate wheat production in 2002 was estimated at 2.69 million tons, some 67 percent more than was achieved in 2001. Following wheat, the most important crops in 2000 were barley (74,000 tons) corn (115,000 tons), rice (232,800 tons), potatoes (235,000 tons), and cotton. Nuts and fruit, including pistachios, almonds, grapes, melons, apricots, cherries, figs, mulberries, and pomegranates are among Afghanstan's most important exports."
  • DrJ I've actually done parts of what I suggest, though not in a war zone. It's not as difficult as "orchestrating the economy", nor is it socialism. It's pure capitalism. It has nothing to do with all the things you mention. It's a simple buyer/seller relationship. We would need to "hire" some intermediaries. We do that all over the world. Every imported commodity is bought from aggregators who combine the produce of many small farms into a shippable quantity. Many of these intermediaries are foreign anyway. (The European merchants who buy and ship produce from Africa, South America or India for instance). And indeed, some lefties think it is neocolonialism to become a big buyer of resources from other countries, but I never thought of you that way. I'm kidding you, but it seems like it is ideology that keeps us from being practical. It seems like you are nay-saying rather than giving this serious thought.

    Now step back from your too-big vision of this for a moment. First, forget produce for local consumption. The Taliban and druglords aren't interested in buying and selling okra or tomatoes. Let's consider one opium growing area. Just before harvest season, we send in buyers with military bodyguards. We offer substantially more than the Taliban for the product. If they're scared enough of the drug lord that they refuse to sell to us we have two choices. First, we can let that go. The farmer now feels screwed by the Taliban, because he is essentially being forced at gunpoint to take much less than he could have for his crop (or the Taliban calculates that we are thus winning hearts and minds and ups the payment, reducing their profit). The second choice is that, having now identified someone who is so scared of a Taliban drug lord they'll accept a rotten deal for themselves and their families, we wait. They have to come and get the opium now. It's harvest season. We ambush them.

    I'm not talking about radical change of the base of Afghan society. Many of the rural farmers are children of farmers, will farm til they die and their children will farm. It's like that all over the world. What happens in Kabul is largely irrelevant to them, it does not affect their lives. Same with rugmakers. You think that we have to pay $400 for a rug that's currently $40 to make this work? Not at all. We just open up the wallet and learn EVERYTHING about who buys and sells what, map it all out, pick strategic entry points and bingo. We're the new, nonviolent, better-paying buyer in town.

    It costs next to nothing. And when we've spent 10 times the GDP of Afghanistan trying to kill our way to victory, you'll be saying "that wouldn't have worked."
  • Thanks, Dorian. That's exactly the kind of research I have done as a part of international development work. We call it "opportunity assessment", looking at soil and climate, labor rates, infrastructure, shipping rates, fuel cost, etc. to determine in what products a country or region has a competitive advantage, and what technologies or training are needed to actualize that.

    JD, the reason I mentioned peaches is that the Thai government did exactly what I suggested; replaced opium poppies with peaches. Poppies are not that rugged and durable a crop, and they take some water. We're not talking cactus here. If they can grow poppies, there are LOTS of things that they can grow.
  • Dr J
    No problems with that plan, GreenDreams, but is it an exit strategy? We can get the whole country growing switchgrass or peaches or whatever, dent the Taliban's revenue, maybe off a few of them. How do we get Afghanistan's agricultural sector off the ventilator without the Taliban returning?
  • Rudi
    Thanks for linking to the Cordesman post, however, neocons like Boot and the evil Kagan's still have a soapbox for their failed analysis...
  • Rudi
    LOL DaGoat you sound like a surrender monkey...
  • Now you're talking. First, some ongoing assistance will be needed for some time, but we do that all over the world. We provide limited and targeted foreign aid to nations which are strategic to us.

    As for the former brokers, let's say we've squeezed a Taliban opium buyer out of the market. I don't know how long he can make it with no income, but if he continues to be supported by the Taliban, he's now a loss center rather than a profit center. Even if we have to pay above market value for switchgrass, it's "drug interdiction" which we're only too happy to pay for elsewhere. But in all probablility, like most other nations (and nearly all land-locked ones), they need their agricultural output to feed themselves, and they need to pursue a limited amount of cash crops. Considering the growing world population and rising food prices, that's not a huge challenge. In fact, we could even let them grow medical marijuana for California. Whatever the crop, if we pay a NGO to become a nonprofit broker, we've already made for-profit brokering next to impossible. Then we start training up honest brokers to take over. Taliban need not apply.
  • Dr J
    So you're hoping that disrupting the Taliban's poppy income for some period of time will be enough to keep them gone for good?
  • D. E.Rodriguez
    You're welcome, GD. Actually, it was nothing. It is your kind of "out-of-the-box" thinking that we need more of, instead of all those tired, tried and failed strategies so many are suggesting for the umpteenth time.

    Thanks again,,
    Dorian
  • DJ, the point is to create an economy in Afghanistan that progressively lifts Afghanis out of poverty with legitimate commerce, and for "the West" to be seen as the fuel of progress and the road toward prosperity and inclusion in the civilized world. The Taliban are the road toward continued 12th Century stone age existence, rule by thugs with guns, growing poison instead of food, and some holier than thou warlord telling your son to strap on an explosive vest. It's not just poppy income. It's bringing Afghanistan into the world community with dignity and pride. Can't believe you're denying the draw of prosperity to poverty stricken people. I assure you, it can change that country.

    I brought an American company together with farmers in a 90% Muslim country for long term business and some community building. None of those 1,000 + farmers would take up arms against America now. America reached out to them, bought them some farm implements, helped with their water well, taught them how to grow a better crop and BOUGHT it. They're grateful. What part of this don't you understand? We're their friends now.
  • Dr J
    GreenDreams, are you really lecturing me on the value of healthy markets? And the nastiness of the Taliban?

    Is was a simple question: what keeps the Taliban from returning once we leave? I would love to believe lasting pro-American sentiment is as easy to sow in that part of the world as you suggest, but I haven't seen much evidence.
  • DJ, we simply haven't tried it. I didn't think I had to lecture you about healthy markets, but to my surprise you characterized my suggestion as "socialism". Now you're asking what keeps the Taliban from coming back once we leave. But what I'm suggesting is a long term trade relationship that the Taliban can't match. They want to MAKE money controlling the populace. We're willing to SPEND money to win "hearts and minds" of the populace. Prosperity is addictive. You know that. What will the Taliban EVER have to offer Afghan farmers once they have technical support and long term contractual relationships with buyers who offer them respect and fair prices?
  • Dr J
    What will the Taliban EVER have to offer Afghan farmers?

    Moral authority, Allah's approval, and 72 virgins in the afterlife.

    And should those fail, bullets.
  • One of the biggest challenges in a civil war or "insurgency" is identifying the bad guys, because they can blend into the population. In my commerce-driven scenario, it becomes pretty obvious who the bullies are, and of bullets, we have plenty.
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