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		<title>By: Republicans United.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Republicans United.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 17:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] people have responded about how the GOP is silly to follow these entertainers. Pete Abel over at the Moderate Voice responds: But why do so many Republican/conservative politicians and pundits pray at the feet of the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: TheMagicalSkyFather</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheMagicalSkyFather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 20:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate Reagan not because of what he did but because of his legend that does not match how he ran this country.  I agree that he was even needed to de-regulate an overly regulated country, of course I also think we now need 21st century regulation and I think Obama is the guy to do that.  BUT I do hate that he gave nukes to Pakistan(that is and has been an issue for us) and that he made deals with enemies of our nation by giving them arms for hostages(the Iranians) and for cutting taxes without cutting spending which I can find no word to describe short of childish but is known as the great warrior and protector, its a joke.  Having said that and even though I think Carter has been maligned incorrectly by history and Reagan adored just as incorrectly our nation needed the shift for its health.  I also think in 20 years I will be telling people much the same about Bush and Obama, Obama was not all that great and Bush was not all that bad.  Not because how I felt at the time but because their policies are close in many ways and those that differ have more to do with a shift in generational policy that was needed and less to do with being bad evil or good.  I cant say I would have voted for Reagan even knowing he would benefit us due to his negatives but I will say with a bit of horror that I am happy that he won that election just as I am happy that FDR and Obama won theirs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate Reagan not because of what he did but because of his legend that does not match how he ran this country.  I agree that he was even needed to de-regulate an overly regulated country, of course I also think we now need 21st century regulation and I think Obama is the guy to do that.  BUT I do hate that he gave nukes to Pakistan(that is and has been an issue for us) and that he made deals with enemies of our nation by giving them arms for hostages(the Iranians) and for cutting taxes without cutting spending which I can find no word to describe short of childish but is known as the great warrior and protector, its a joke.  Having said that and even though I think Carter has been maligned incorrectly by history and Reagan adored just as incorrectly our nation needed the shift for its health.  I also think in 20 years I will be telling people much the same about Bush and Obama, Obama was not all that great and Bush was not all that bad.  Not because how I felt at the time but because their policies are close in many ways and those that differ have more to do with a shift in generational policy that was needed and less to do with being bad evil or good.  I cant say I would have voted for Reagan even knowing he would benefit us due to his negatives but I will say with a bit of horror that I am happy that he won that election just as I am happy that FDR and Obama won theirs.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 18:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fine. I don&#039;t need to convince either of you. For others, more thoughtful than sentimental, there&#039;s a deep lesson here. In making his deal with Iran, with Ayatollah Khoumeini, Ronald Reagan decided that Jimmy Carter was a greater threat than a militant and fully armed Iran. That is the point at which blind adherence to ideology overrules rational thought and threatens our nation. Now, ironically, conservatives hold a torch and light a candle for a confessed traitor, just as candles are still lit for Chairman Mao. A cult of personality that persists to this day. Mao, Castro, Reagan. Revered no matter what they do to their countries.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So today, forgive me if I have no fear of the Iran that Ronald Reagan armed. He thought they were less of a threat than a Democrat in the White House.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fine. I don&#39;t need to convince either of you. For others, more thoughtful than sentimental, there&#39;s a deep lesson here. In making his deal with Iran, with Ayatollah Khoumeini, Ronald Reagan decided that Jimmy Carter was a greater threat than a militant and fully armed Iran. That is the point at which blind adherence to ideology overrules rational thought and threatens our nation. Now, ironically, conservatives hold a torch and light a candle for a confessed traitor, just as candles are still lit for Chairman Mao. A cult of personality that persists to this day. Mao, Castro, Reagan. Revered no matter what they do to their countries.</p>
<p>So today, forgive me if I have no fear of the Iran that Ronald Reagan armed. He thought they were less of a threat than a Democrat in the White House.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Abel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Abel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 15:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with TB.  While I never knew one of Reagan&#039;s children, I think he did a lot of good for this country, much more so than the liberal chattering class will ever admit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m with TB.  While I never knew one of Reagan&#39;s children, I think he did a lot of good for this country, much more so than the liberal chattering class will ever admit.</p>
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		<title>By: tidbits</title>
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		<dc:creator>tidbits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 00:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GD -&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I understand your perspective, but you are trying to convince the wrong person.  You see, for me this is personal, not political.  Prior to her untimely death, I had a years long friendship with a wonderful and brilliant woman by the name of Maureen Reagan.  In honor of her memory, I will never speak ill of her father.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;tidbits</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GD -</p>
<p>I understand your perspective, but you are trying to convince the wrong person.  You see, for me this is personal, not political.  Prior to her untimely death, I had a years long friendship with a wonderful and brilliant woman by the name of Maureen Reagan.  In honor of her memory, I will never speak ill of her father.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 00:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess history is still being written, but an honest look at what IS written shows that Reagan shamed America:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;In 1986, a scandal shook the administration stemming from the use of proceeds from covert arms sales to Iran to fund the Contras in Nicaragua, which had been specifically outlawed by an act of Congress.[166] The Iran-Contra affair became the largest political scandal in the United States during the 1980s.[167] The International Court of Justice, whose jurisdiction to decide the case was disputed,[168] ruled that the U.S. had violated international law in Nicaragua due to its obligations not to intervene in the affairs of other states.[169]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;President Reagan professed ignorance of the plot&#039;s existence. He appointed two Republicans and one Democrat (John Tower, Brent Scowcroft and Edmund Muskie, known as the &quot;Tower Commission&quot;) to investigate the scandal. The commission could not find direct evidence that Reagan had prior knowledge of the program, but criticized him heavily for his disengagement from managing his staff, making the diversion of funds possible.[170] A separate report by Congress concluded that &quot;If the president did not know what his national security advisers were doing, he should have.&quot;[170] Reagan&#039;s popularity declined from 67 percent to 46 percent in less than a week, the greatest and quickest decline ever for a president.[171] The scandal resulted in fourteen indictments within Reagan&#039;s staff, and eleven convictions.[172]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Many Central Americans criticize Reagan for his support of the Contras, calling him an anti-communist zealot, blinded to human rights abuses, while others say he &quot;saved Central America.&quot;[173] Daniel Ortega, Sandinistan and current president of Nicaragua, said that he hoped God would forgive Reagan for his &quot;dirty war against Nicaragua.&quot;[173] In 1986 the USA was found guilty by the International Court of Justice (World Court) of war crimes against Nicaragua.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;With respect to Reaganomics, economists agree that Reagan&#039;s deficits and debt were the reason Bush the first famously had to renege on his promise of &quot;no new taxes.&quot; Reagan was not what I would consider a conservative, or at least what I believed it to mean at the time: fiscal conservativism, pay as you go, states rights, individual rights, smaller government, strong defense. The latter is the only principle he honored, but that is thoroughly stained by the fact that for the first time ever (but thanks to Bush II not likely the last) the United States was convicted of war crimes by the world court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess history is still being written, but an honest look at what IS written shows that Reagan shamed America:</p>
<p>&#8220;In 1986, a scandal shook the administration stemming from the use of proceeds from covert arms sales to Iran to fund the Contras in Nicaragua, which had been specifically outlawed by an act of Congress.[166] The Iran-Contra affair became the largest political scandal in the United States during the 1980s.[167] The International Court of Justice, whose jurisdiction to decide the case was disputed,[168] ruled that the U.S. had violated international law in Nicaragua due to its obligations not to intervene in the affairs of other states.[169]</p>
<p>President Reagan professed ignorance of the plot&#39;s existence. He appointed two Republicans and one Democrat (John Tower, Brent Scowcroft and Edmund Muskie, known as the &#8220;Tower Commission&#8221;) to investigate the scandal. The commission could not find direct evidence that Reagan had prior knowledge of the program, but criticized him heavily for his disengagement from managing his staff, making the diversion of funds possible.[170] A separate report by Congress concluded that &#8220;If the president did not know what his national security advisers were doing, he should have.&#8221;[170] Reagan&#39;s popularity declined from 67 percent to 46 percent in less than a week, the greatest and quickest decline ever for a president.[171] The scandal resulted in fourteen indictments within Reagan&#39;s staff, and eleven convictions.[172]</p>
<p>Many Central Americans criticize Reagan for his support of the Contras, calling him an anti-communist zealot, blinded to human rights abuses, while others say he &#8220;saved Central America.&#8221;[173] Daniel Ortega, Sandinistan and current president of Nicaragua, said that he hoped God would forgive Reagan for his &#8220;dirty war against Nicaragua.&#8221;[173] In 1986 the USA was found guilty by the International Court of Justice (World Court) of war crimes against Nicaragua.&#8221;</p>
<p>With respect to Reaganomics, economists agree that Reagan&#39;s deficits and debt were the reason Bush the first famously had to renege on his promise of &#8220;no new taxes.&#8221; Reagan was not what I would consider a conservative, or at least what I believed it to mean at the time: fiscal conservativism, pay as you go, states rights, individual rights, smaller government, strong defense. The latter is the only principle he honored, but that is thoroughly stained by the fact that for the first time ever (but thanks to Bush II not likely the last) the United States was convicted of war crimes by the world court.</p>
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		<title>By: TheMagicalSkyFather</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheMagicalSkyFather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for insulting my intelligence by assuming I voted for Obama because of his &quot;pretty words.&quot;  So just so you know I backed Ron Paul because of his long record and the way he ran his campaign.  I then moved to Obama when Ron Paul was ignored regardless of his fundraising prowess because he was a constitutional lawyer and those people tend to take that whole constitution thing pretty seriously.  McCain&#039;s problem was also not just how he ran it was how he acted from 2003 or so until 2008 while he was attempting to get his party to allow him the nomination.  So forgive me if I no longer knew who he was, under Clinton he seemed sane, under Bush he seemed the sanest of the insane but I had a choice to make and &quot;pretty words&quot; had not one damn thing to do with it.  Of course if his base would have stuck behind him and not looked like they were going to abandon him when he moved to the middle things may have been different.  If he had chosen a non-identity politics VP choice I also may have reconsidered but once he chose Palin the die was cast.  If he would have offered something different than more trickle down economics that got us here and tax cuts that seem to be the only trick the repub one trick pony knows things may have been different.  So I put thought into my decision but I will avoid insulting yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for insulting my intelligence by assuming I voted for Obama because of his &#8220;pretty words.&#8221;  So just so you know I backed Ron Paul because of his long record and the way he ran his campaign.  I then moved to Obama when Ron Paul was ignored regardless of his fundraising prowess because he was a constitutional lawyer and those people tend to take that whole constitution thing pretty seriously.  McCain&#39;s problem was also not just how he ran it was how he acted from 2003 or so until 2008 while he was attempting to get his party to allow him the nomination.  So forgive me if I no longer knew who he was, under Clinton he seemed sane, under Bush he seemed the sanest of the insane but I had a choice to make and &#8220;pretty words&#8221; had not one damn thing to do with it.  Of course if his base would have stuck behind him and not looked like they were going to abandon him when he moved to the middle things may have been different.  If he had chosen a non-identity politics VP choice I also may have reconsidered but once he chose Palin the die was cast.  If he would have offered something different than more trickle down economics that got us here and tax cuts that seem to be the only trick the repub one trick pony knows things may have been different.  So I put thought into my decision but I will avoid insulting yours.</p>
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		<title>By: tidbits</title>
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		<dc:creator>tidbits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, GD, the name Reagan certainly does bring out strong opinions.  If you read my earlier comment, the gist of it was that he changed the national discussion from liberal based assumtions to conservative based assumptions.  I believe he did that.  What I did not say is anything about specific policies like Reaganomics or Iran-Contra.  I doubt that he will go down in history as a traitor as you and FT suggest or might like to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, GD, the name Reagan certainly does bring out strong opinions.  If you read my earlier comment, the gist of it was that he changed the national discussion from liberal based assumtions to conservative based assumptions.  I believe he did that.  What I did not say is anything about specific policies like Reaganomics or Iran-Contra.  I doubt that he will go down in history as a traitor as you and FT suggest or might like to see.</p>
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		<title>By: shannonlee</title>
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		<dc:creator>shannonlee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;McCain did not run as that man in 2008 which is why I did not vote for him though I wanted badly for him to win the nom in 2000&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Had you put a lot more thought into that opinion, I think you would have understood what McCain was doing and why.  How people could simply dismiss a 20+ year track record over campaign rhetoric is beyond me.  McCain was obviously pretending to be someone he wasn&#039;t...they all do...they all lie.  He had to be more to the right in order to get the right show up and vote.  My goodness, Obama lied about changing NAFTA and about an Iraq war time table....they all lie.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You can&#039;t believe politicians.  They are all professional liars.  All you have as a reference to their future behavior is their track record.  If they have no track record...then all you have are their words...those pretty pretty words.  &quot;I&#039;ll vote for the guy that talks pretty&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ok, enough of that...McCain lost...dead end subject ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;McCain did not run as that man in 2008 which is why I did not vote for him though I wanted badly for him to win the nom in 2000&#8243;</p>
<p>Had you put a lot more thought into that opinion, I think you would have understood what McCain was doing and why.  How people could simply dismiss a 20+ year track record over campaign rhetoric is beyond me.  McCain was obviously pretending to be someone he wasn&#39;t&#8230;they all do&#8230;they all lie.  He had to be more to the right in order to get the right show up and vote.  My goodness, Obama lied about changing NAFTA and about an Iraq war time table&#8230;.they all lie.  </p>
<p>You can&#39;t believe politicians.  They are all professional liars.  All you have as a reference to their future behavior is their track record.  If they have no track record&#8230;then all you have are their words&#8230;those pretty pretty words.  &#8220;I&#39;ll vote for the guy that talks pretty&#8221;</p>
<p>Ok, enough of that&#8230;McCain lost&#8230;dead end subject <img src='http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Conventional Folly &#187; Brooks declares war on talk radio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conventional Folly &#187; Brooks declares war on talk radio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, sorry tidbits, I can&#039;t let that pass. It&#039;s so easy to forget. Reagan betrayed America. He is a self-confessed traitor who admitted that he sold weapons to our enemy, Iran. He did so LONG after Iran had threatened to destroy America &quot;the great Satan&quot; and he did so KNOWING that Iran was a threat to Israel. He was a traitor.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He was a traitor to Republicans and to future generations. He took a tiny national debt and with &quot;voodoo economics&quot; (GHW Bush&#039;s term), he initiated the Republican &quot;borrow and spend&quot; policies, destroying the former &quot;fiscal conservative&quot; party and making it fiscally FAR worse than the &quot;tax and spend Democrats&quot;. He, Bush and Bush saddled us with a debt that requires $237 a month for every taxpayer just to pay interest. Look at your federal tax bill and subtract $2488 from it. That is your annual REAGANOMICS tax increase. It will last forEVER, because paying that for eternity does exactly ZERO to reduce the national debt. It&#039;s just the interest.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Reagan betrayed us all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, sorry tidbits, I can&#39;t let that pass. It&#39;s so easy to forget. Reagan betrayed America. He is a self-confessed traitor who admitted that he sold weapons to our enemy, Iran. He did so LONG after Iran had threatened to destroy America &#8220;the great Satan&#8221; and he did so KNOWING that Iran was a threat to Israel. He was a traitor.</p>
<p>He was a traitor to Republicans and to future generations. He took a tiny national debt and with &#8220;voodoo economics&#8221; (GHW Bush&#39;s term), he initiated the Republican &#8220;borrow and spend&#8221; policies, destroying the former &#8220;fiscal conservative&#8221; party and making it fiscally FAR worse than the &#8220;tax and spend Democrats&#8221;. He, Bush and Bush saddled us with a debt that requires $237 a month for every taxpayer just to pay interest. Look at your federal tax bill and subtract $2488 from it. That is your annual REAGANOMICS tax increase. It will last forEVER, because paying that for eternity does exactly ZERO to reduce the national debt. It&#39;s just the interest.</p>
<p>Reagan betrayed us all.</p>
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		<title>By: TheMagicalSkyFather</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheMagicalSkyFather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain did not run as that man in 2008 which is why I did not vote for him though I wanted badly for him to win the nom in 2000.  Sadly it was due to having to keep his base on board but I was still unsure where the real McCain stood anymore.  I am very glad to see his new focus though and have high hopes for his ability to change the course of what otherwise may be a long march in the wilderness for the Repubs.  Maybe I will be a moderate again sooner than I thought!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain did not run as that man in 2008 which is why I did not vote for him though I wanted badly for him to win the nom in 2000.  Sadly it was due to having to keep his base on board but I was still unsure where the real McCain stood anymore.  I am very glad to see his new focus though and have high hopes for his ability to change the course of what otherwise may be a long march in the wilderness for the Repubs.  Maybe I will be a moderate again sooner than I thought!</p>
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		<title>By: shannonlee</title>
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		<dc:creator>shannonlee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain, already the change that Obama promised to be.  The man had a 20+ year track record of being a bi-partisan leader that didn&#039;t bow down to his party.  People choose the guy with a 2 year record as candidate for the Dem nomination for President.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain, already the change that Obama promised to be.  The man had a 20+ year track record of being a bi-partisan leader that didn&#39;t bow down to his party.  People choose the guy with a 2 year record as candidate for the Dem nomination for President.</p>
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		<title>By: shannonlee</title>
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		<dc:creator>shannonlee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are two issues here.  One being that currently Republican politicians do bow down to these talk show entertainers. Second, even if this behavior were to change, they still have to fight the perception that Republicans bow down to these guys.  This will be difficult to do considering that It is advantagous for Dems to link Reps to these figureheads. They are also controversial figures which will give them constant MSM play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are two issues here.  One being that currently Republican politicians do bow down to these talk show entertainers. Second, even if this behavior were to change, they still have to fight the perception that Republicans bow down to these guys.  This will be difficult to do considering that It is advantagous for Dems to link Reps to these figureheads. They are also controversial figures which will give them constant MSM play.</p>
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		<title>By: Father_Time</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/48249/the-gop-and-its-wrongly-crowned-kings/comment-page-1/#comment-219440</link>
		<dc:creator>Father_Time</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>--[he single-handedly changed the focus of the national discourse from liberal assumptive thinking to conservative assumptive thinking]--&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;...and the nation has gone down hill ever since! You have to hold people accountable for abject failure. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On top of that, he destroyed Social Security for how many future millions? All because his personal philosophy was that HE paid to much tax and had no empathy what-so-ever for those less fortunate especially those that served in wars that HE NEVER served in?? The self righteous tight wad jerk.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We won’t mention those that died of exposure because the greedy fool closed all the mental health hospitals in California as governor. Selling the hospital in Modesto California to Gallo Wine for ONE DOLLAR. Which they used as slum housing for Mexican migrant grape cutters. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;No he PERSONALLY deserves disparaging. You people really need to back in time with Father Time to get the goods on  Ronnie Ray-Gun.</description>
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<p>&#8230;and the nation has gone down hill ever since! You have to hold people accountable for abject failure. </p>
<p>On top of that, he destroyed Social Security for how many future millions? All because his personal philosophy was that HE paid to much tax and had no empathy what-so-ever for those less fortunate especially those that served in wars that HE NEVER served in?? The self righteous tight wad jerk.</p>
<p>We won’t mention those that died of exposure because the greedy fool closed all the mental health hospitals in California as governor. Selling the hospital in Modesto California to Gallo Wine for ONE DOLLAR. Which they used as slum housing for Mexican migrant grape cutters. </p>
<p>No he PERSONALLY deserves disparaging. You people really need to back in time with Father Time to get the goods on  Ronnie Ray-Gun.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meanwhile some in the GOP are taking action:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;John McCain&#039;s mission: A GOP makeover&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/27832_Page2.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/27832...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt; “I think he’s endorsed people with center-right politics because he has an understanding that the party is in trouble with certain demographics and wants to have a tone that would allow us to grow,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham, the South Carolina Republican who is McCain’s closest friend and ally in the Senate.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“At a time when our party is struggling and has a lot of shrill voices and aggressive voices, he’s one that can expand our party,” said John Weaver, a longtime McCain friend and strategist.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile some in the GOP are taking action:</p>
<p>John McCain&#39;s mission: A GOP makeover<br /><a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/27832_Page2.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/27832&#8230;</a></p>
<blockquote><p> “I think he’s endorsed people with center-right politics because he has an understanding that the party is in trouble with certain demographics and wants to have a tone that would allow us to grow,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham, the South Carolina Republican who is McCain’s closest friend and ally in the Senate.</p>
<p>“At a time when our party is struggling and has a lot of shrill voices and aggressive voices, he’s one that can expand our party,” said John Weaver, a longtime McCain friend and strategist.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 16:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The losers stoop ever lower to attack the righty talkers, and Limbaugh and his coattail-riders laugh all the way to the bank.  Not a bad deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The losers stoop ever lower to attack the righty talkers, and Limbaugh and his coattail-riders laugh all the way to the bank.  Not a bad deal.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/48249/the-gop-and-its-wrongly-crowned-kings/comment-page-1/#comment-219383</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 16:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; There is no effect on the favorability rating or the re-election prospects. In the media world, he is a giant. In the real world, he’s not.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In other words, no matter how much the ditto heads like him, and no matter how much his critics hate him, there really is no difference.  Of course that doesn&#039;t change the amount of criticism and praise he gets, people still waste time on him praising and criticizing.  LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> There is no effect on the favorability rating or the re-election prospects. In the media world, he is a giant. In the real world, he’s not.</p></blockquote>
<p>In other words, no matter how much the ditto heads like him, and no matter how much his critics hate him, there really is no difference.  Of course that doesn&#39;t change the amount of criticism and praise he gets, people still waste time on him praising and criticizing.  LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: tidbits</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/48249/the-gop-and-its-wrongly-crowned-kings/comment-page-1/#comment-219374</link>
		<dc:creator>tidbits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 16:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To disagree with Reagan&#039;s policies, no problem.  To disparage him personally doesn&#039;t sit so well.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Reagan, love him or hate him, was a game changer.  After nearly a half century of liberal dominated government, he single-handedly changed the focus of the national discourse from liberal assumptive thinking to conservative assumptive thinking.  That is a Herculean accomplishment whatever one thinks of his specific policy decisions.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As the piece points out, Reagan did not accomplish his great feat of changing the premise of the national discussion through niche marketing or boisterous outrageousness.  Rather he used a soft spoken style, complimented by a smile, to build a coalition of conservatives, moderate Republicans and &quot;Reagan Democrats&quot; that dominated American political thinking for most of a generation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To disagree with Reagan&#39;s policies, no problem.  To disparage him personally doesn&#39;t sit so well.</p>
<p>Reagan, love him or hate him, was a game changer.  After nearly a half century of liberal dominated government, he single-handedly changed the focus of the national discourse from liberal assumptive thinking to conservative assumptive thinking.  That is a Herculean accomplishment whatever one thinks of his specific policy decisions.</p>
<p>As the piece points out, Reagan did not accomplish his great feat of changing the premise of the national discussion through niche marketing or boisterous outrageousness.  Rather he used a soft spoken style, complimented by a smile, to build a coalition of conservatives, moderate Republicans and &#8220;Reagan Democrats&#8221; that dominated American political thinking for most of a generation.</p>
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		<title>By: Posts about Michelle Malkin as of October 2, 2009 &#187; The Daily Parr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Posts about Michelle Malkin as of October 2, 2009 &#187; The Daily Parr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] cheats, crooks and cronies&#8221; that are in very high ranking positions of our government.   The GOP and Its Wrongly Crowned Kings &#8211; themoderatevoice.com 10/02/2009 If you see a spade, call it a spade. David Brooks does. The [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] cheats, crooks and cronies&#8221; that are in very high ranking positions of our government.   The GOP and Its Wrongly Crowned Kings &#8211; themoderatevoice.com 10/02/2009 If you see a spade, call it a spade. David Brooks does. The [...]</p>
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