
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: My Algorithm Proves You&#8217;re Gay!</title>
	<atom:link href="http://themoderatevoice.com/48112/my-algorithm-proves-youre-gay/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/48112/my-algorithm-proves-youre-gay/</link>
	<description>An Internet hub with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, indies, centrists, moderates, and right</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Wed, 30 May 2012 20:57:06 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: roro80</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/48112/my-algorithm-proves-youre-gay/comment-page-1/#comment-219367</link>
		<dc:creator>roro80</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=48112#comment-219367</guid>
		<description>Hello!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Tweets that mention My Algorithm Proves You’re Gay! &#124; The Moderate Voice -- Topsy.com</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/48112/my-algorithm-proves-youre-gay/comment-page-1/#comment-219353</link>
		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention My Algorithm Proves You’re Gay! &#124; The Moderate Voice -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=48112#comment-219353</guid>
		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by TMV and joseluisoliva. joseluisoliva said: Interesante post, revelador http://bit.ly/sNxMs [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by TMV and joseluisoliva. joseluisoliva said: Interesante post, revelador <a href="http://bit.ly/sNxMs" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/sNxMs</a> [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: JeffersonDavis</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/48112/my-algorithm-proves-youre-gay/comment-page-1/#comment-219282</link>
		<dc:creator>JeffersonDavis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 06:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=48112#comment-219282</guid>
		<description>Ah San Fran in the fall.  Beautiful city.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just thought I&#039;d say hi. Nothing to add.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah San Fran in the fall.  Beautiful city.</p>
<p>Just thought I&#39;d say hi. Nothing to add.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: roro80</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/48112/my-algorithm-proves-youre-gay/comment-page-1/#comment-219187</link>
		<dc:creator>roro80</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 22:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=48112#comment-219187</guid>
		<description>This is definitely a good point, and I guess I was just talking about &quot;self-identifying&quot; gay men who just don&#039;t post their orientation on facebook.  This just shows my own bias, as I live in a place where it is extremely safe to be out and self-identifying, and indeed many people come to the city I live in to do just that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is definitely a good point, and I guess I was just talking about &#8220;self-identifying&#8221; gay men who just don&#39;t post their orientation on facebook.  This just shows my own bias, as I live in a place where it is extremely safe to be out and self-identifying, and indeed many people come to the city I live in to do just that.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: mikkel</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/48112/my-algorithm-proves-youre-gay/comment-page-1/#comment-219162</link>
		<dc:creator>mikkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=48112#comment-219162</guid>
		<description>&quot;The one thing that does come out of this is that, in general, if the algorithm says you&#039;re not gay, it&#039;s pretty unlikely that you actually are.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You bring up a good point that I implicitly referred to by saying &quot;sexual identity&quot; and for terrorist mining &quot;perfect information.&quot; The statistics don&#039;t work even when you have ideal information, which depending on environment and circumstances may or may not be true.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For instance, on the Kinsey scale/behavioral surveys, about as many men are predominantly homosexual that don&#039;t identify as such as there are that do. Plus there are about 3x more that have varying degrees of active bisexuality. The quality of identity information as reflective of behavior is extremely varying based on geographic and socioeconomic variables (although increasingly less so).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the US where religious identity is pretty open, the information is pretty good, while in China it would be poor.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The worse the information, the harder it will be to get good predictors at all, and you&#039;ll start getting a lot more false positives and negatives.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Terrorists groups purposefully keep as few network connections as possible to make it harder to infiltrate. Thus in reality, not only do you have thousands of false positives, but the number of false negatives is really high too.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Once people start hiding information (or even outright lying) then these sorts of studies fall apart very quickly in saying anything definitive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The one thing that does come out of this is that, in general, if the algorithm says you&#39;re not gay, it&#39;s pretty unlikely that you actually are.&#8221;</p>
<p>You bring up a good point that I implicitly referred to by saying &#8220;sexual identity&#8221; and for terrorist mining &#8220;perfect information.&#8221; The statistics don&#39;t work even when you have ideal information, which depending on environment and circumstances may or may not be true.</p>
<p>For instance, on the Kinsey scale/behavioral surveys, about as many men are predominantly homosexual that don&#39;t identify as such as there are that do. Plus there are about 3x more that have varying degrees of active bisexuality. The quality of identity information as reflective of behavior is extremely varying based on geographic and socioeconomic variables (although increasingly less so).</p>
<p>In the US where religious identity is pretty open, the information is pretty good, while in China it would be poor.</p>
<p>The worse the information, the harder it will be to get good predictors at all, and you&#39;ll start getting a lot more false positives and negatives.</p>
<p>Terrorists groups purposefully keep as few network connections as possible to make it harder to infiltrate. Thus in reality, not only do you have thousands of false positives, but the number of false negatives is really high too.</p>
<p>Once people start hiding information (or even outright lying) then these sorts of studies fall apart very quickly in saying anything definitive.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: lotusflwr</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/48112/my-algorithm-proves-youre-gay/comment-page-1/#comment-219161</link>
		<dc:creator>lotusflwr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=48112#comment-219161</guid>
		<description>Nice and thorough work-through of sampling methods, statistics and general practicality of trying to use these types of models to find interesting and/or important information about the general population. It&#039;s so easy for an article to say &quot;blah method identifies xyz people based just on shoe size!&quot; but it&#039;s quite another to understand how useful, accurate and even ethical such things might be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice and thorough work-through of sampling methods, statistics and general practicality of trying to use these types of models to find interesting and/or important information about the general population. It&#39;s so easy for an article to say &#8220;blah method identifies xyz people based just on shoe size!&#8221; but it&#39;s quite another to understand how useful, accurate and even ethical such things might be.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: roro80</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/48112/my-algorithm-proves-youre-gay/comment-page-1/#comment-219142</link>
		<dc:creator>roro80</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=48112#comment-219142</guid>
		<description>When I read the initial blurb, all of the great stat work you did immediately ran through my head.  It&#039;s kind of a silly project that says &quot;gay people generally have more gay friends than straight people&quot;.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The one thing that does come out of this is that, in general, if the algorithm says you&#039;re not gay, it&#039;s pretty unlikely that you actually are.  But (taking it to your larger point about terrorists) nobody&#039;s out there trying to figure out who&#039;s NOT a terrorist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I read the initial blurb, all of the great stat work you did immediately ran through my head.  It&#39;s kind of a silly project that says &#8220;gay people generally have more gay friends than straight people&#8221;.  </p>
<p>The one thing that does come out of this is that, in general, if the algorithm says you&#39;re not gay, it&#39;s pretty unlikely that you actually are.  But (taking it to your larger point about terrorists) nobody&#39;s out there trying to figure out who&#39;s NOT a terrorist.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: My Algorithm Proves You’re Gay! Match Web</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/48112/my-algorithm-proves-youre-gay/comment-page-1/#comment-219163</link>
		<dc:creator>My Algorithm Proves You’re Gay! Match Web</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=48112#comment-219163</guid>
		<description>[...] Continued here: My Algorithm Proves You’re Gay! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Continued here: My Algorithm Proves You’re Gay! [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

