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		<title>By: kathykattenburg</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/48089/quote-of-the-day-8/comment-page-1/#comment-219481</link>
		<dc:creator>kathykattenburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is also the word &quot;Shoah&quot; for the Holocaust, but it&#039;s pretty much only used by Jews who are familiar and comfortable enough with Hebrew to use Hebrew words in everyday conversation. I know the word, but I feel weird using Hebrew words in everyday conversation because I don&#039;t speak Hebrew in general, I just know that word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is also the word &#8220;Shoah&#8221; for the Holocaust, but it&#39;s pretty much only used by Jews who are familiar and comfortable enough with Hebrew to use Hebrew words in everyday conversation. I know the word, but I feel weird using Hebrew words in everyday conversation because I don&#39;t speak Hebrew in general, I just know that word.</p>
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		<title>By: roro80</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/48089/quote-of-the-day-8/comment-page-1/#comment-219454</link>
		<dc:creator>roro80</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; Guess we&#039;ll have to use &quot;disaster,&quot; &quot;&lt;br&gt;Maybe &quot;decimation&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; Guess we&#39;ll have to use &#8220;disaster,&#8221; &#8220;<br />Maybe &#8220;decimation&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/48089/quote-of-the-day-8/comment-page-1/#comment-219450</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You did indeed get my meaning right. RIP lower case holocaust. In American English, the word can no longer be used at all. So we need to use synonyms. Guess we&#039;ll have to use &quot;disaster,&quot; ironically an astrological reference that literally means &quot;ill starred&quot;. Or &quot;catastrophe&quot; which means &quot;an unexpected turn of events&quot; (its etymology anyway. common usage outside of theater generally means &quot;an unexpected disaster&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You did indeed get my meaning right. RIP lower case holocaust. In American English, the word can no longer be used at all. So we need to use synonyms. Guess we&#39;ll have to use &#8220;disaster,&#8221; ironically an astrological reference that literally means &#8220;ill starred&#8221;. Or &#8220;catastrophe&#8221; which means &#8220;an unexpected turn of events&#8221; (its etymology anyway. common usage outside of theater generally means &#8220;an unexpected disaster&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/48089/quote-of-the-day-8/comment-page-1/#comment-219228</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 01:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; it&#039;s an average Tuesday.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And that is a sad commentary on our elected leaders from both parties, although justified.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> it&#39;s an average Tuesday.</p></blockquote>
<p>And that is a sad commentary on our elected leaders from both parties, although justified.</p>
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		<title>By: kathykattenburg</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/48089/quote-of-the-day-8/comment-page-1/#comment-219218</link>
		<dc:creator>kathykattenburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 00:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;As for the &quot;holocaust&quot; comment, I guess we can no longer use the usual English language meaning of that word any more? There is no such English word as &quot;holocaust&quot; outside the one genocidal Nazi &quot;Holocaust&quot;? &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That is a very interesting comment. Really. It&#039;s one of those observations that makes you think, and the more you think, the more layers you find.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You can take those two sentences on a more or less literal level (which may or not be the way you meant them to be taken), to mean that there is no word with the meaning of &quot;holocaust&quot; that isn&#039;t &lt;b&gt;that&lt;/b&gt; word, because that word is associated with the Holocaust, capital H.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A slightly different  way of thinking about it is that there &lt;b&gt;is&lt;/b&gt;, objectively, the world &quot;holocaust,&quot; lower case h, that means &quot;overwhelmingly catastrophic event&quot; or words to that effect. That word still exists. But that word can no longer be &lt;b&gt;used&lt;/b&gt; to convey the generic, generalized meaning it once had. Because when we use that word now -- even if we don&#039;t intend it to refer to the organized murder of six million Jews; even if we are &lt;b&gt;trying&lt;/b&gt; to use it in a larger sense -- we can&#039;t. Because people don&#039;t process that word the same way post-World War II. When you say &quot;holocaust&quot; it means &quot;Holocaust&quot; because that&#039;s the way most people understand that word, whether the first letter is capped or not. It&#039;s like the murder of six million Jews, as a discrete historical event, has been stamped into the word, leaving an indelible impression.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I can&#039;t think of another word like that, for which the very meaning has altered because of one historic event.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>As for the &#8220;holocaust&#8221; comment, I guess we can no longer use the usual English language meaning of that word any more? There is no such English word as &#8220;holocaust&#8221; outside the one genocidal Nazi &#8220;Holocaust&#8221;? </i></p>
<p>That is a very interesting comment. Really. It&#39;s one of those observations that makes you think, and the more you think, the more layers you find.</p>
<p>You can take those two sentences on a more or less literal level (which may or not be the way you meant them to be taken), to mean that there is no word with the meaning of &#8220;holocaust&#8221; that isn&#39;t <b>that</b> word, because that word is associated with the Holocaust, capital H.</p>
<p>A slightly different  way of thinking about it is that there <b>is</b>, objectively, the world &#8220;holocaust,&#8221; lower case h, that means &#8220;overwhelmingly catastrophic event&#8221; or words to that effect. That word still exists. But that word can no longer be <b>used</b> to convey the generic, generalized meaning it once had. Because when we use that word now &#8212; even if we don&#39;t intend it to refer to the organized murder of six million Jews; even if we are <b>trying</b> to use it in a larger sense &#8212; we can&#39;t. Because people don&#39;t process that word the same way post-World War II. When you say &#8220;holocaust&#8221; it means &#8220;Holocaust&#8221; because that&#39;s the way most people understand that word, whether the first letter is capped or not. It&#39;s like the murder of six million Jews, as a discrete historical event, has been stamped into the word, leaving an indelible impression.</p>
<p>I can&#39;t think of another word like that, for which the very meaning has altered because of one historic event.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/48089/quote-of-the-day-8/comment-page-1/#comment-219130</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In case anyone needs examples of statements worse than Grayson made, it&#039;s here:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qfwza0jo1yw&amp;feature=related&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qfwza0jo1yw&amp;feat...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m not saying this kind of rhetoric is appropriate, as Rachel Maddow says, what Grayson said is &quot;a hyperbolic, over the top charge.&quot; But &quot;to make an inflammatory floor speech... is not a breach of decorum in today&#039;s House of Representatives.. it&#039;s an average Tuesday.&quot; Watch the clip. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for the &quot;holocaust&quot; comment, I guess we can no longer use the usual English language meaning of that word any more? There is no such English word as  &quot;holocaust&quot; outside the one genocidal Nazi &quot;Holocaust&quot;? Grayson has admitted it &quot;may not have been the best choice of words&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In case anyone needs examples of statements worse than Grayson made, it&#39;s here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qfwza0jo1yw&#038;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qfwza0jo1yw&#038;feat&#8230;</a></p>
<p>I&#39;m not saying this kind of rhetoric is appropriate, as Rachel Maddow says, what Grayson said is &#8220;a hyperbolic, over the top charge.&#8221; But &#8220;to make an inflammatory floor speech&#8230; is not a breach of decorum in today&#39;s House of Representatives.. it&#39;s an average Tuesday.&#8221; Watch the clip. </p>
<p>As for the &#8220;holocaust&#8221; comment, I guess we can no longer use the usual English language meaning of that word any more? There is no such English word as  &#8220;holocaust&#8221; outside the one genocidal Nazi &#8220;Holocaust&#8221;? Grayson has admitted it &#8220;may not have been the best choice of words&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: roro80</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/48089/quote-of-the-day-8/comment-page-1/#comment-219079</link>
		<dc:creator>roro80</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Given the fact that the GOP does not believe it’s even necessary to safeguard the health and lives of Americans who are outside of the womb, it’s especially revealing that they do find it necessary to insert language protecting fertilized eggs, zygotes, embryos, and fetuses.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes ma&#039;am, this is it, precisely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Given the fact that the GOP does not believe it’s even necessary to safeguard the health and lives of Americans who are outside of the womb, it’s especially revealing that they do find it necessary to insert language protecting fertilized eggs, zygotes, embryos, and fetuses.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes ma&#39;am, this is it, precisely.</p>
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		<title>By: Father_Time</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/48089/quote-of-the-day-8/comment-page-1/#comment-219057</link>
		<dc:creator>Father_Time</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The difference between Joe Wilson and Allan Grayson is that Wilson disparaged a person and Grayson Disparaged a political party.....which the Republicans do daily. There is no commonality between Grayson&#039;s legitimate debating points and Wilson&#039;s outburst of hate.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Congressman Grayson’s debating points are extremely accurate backed by sources of the highest credibility. Though they at first sight seem bombastic, his points are factual. Wilson don’t even have a point to make beyond screaming hate rhetoric common within his party. Where is Wilson’s presentation on the issue?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The difference between Joe Wilson and Allan Grayson is that Wilson disparaged a person and Grayson Disparaged a political party&#8230;..which the Republicans do daily. There is no commonality between Grayson&#39;s legitimate debating points and Wilson&#39;s outburst of hate.</p>
<p>Congressman Grayson’s debating points are extremely accurate backed by sources of the highest credibility. Though they at first sight seem bombastic, his points are factual. Wilson don’t even have a point to make beyond screaming hate rhetoric common within his party. Where is Wilson’s presentation on the issue?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Williams Highlights &#8216;Incendiary&#8217; Attack on GOP by Dem Congressman &#124; linkthe.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Williams Highlights &#8216;Incendiary&#8217; Attack on GOP by Dem Congressman &#124; linkthe.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Grayson stands by criticism of Republican plan: ‘I would like to apologize to the dead.’ &#124; linkthe.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grayson stands by criticism of Republican plan: ‘I would like to apologize to the dead.’ &#124; linkthe.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/48089/quote-of-the-day-8/comment-page-1/#comment-219015</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 13:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL the far-left loves to drink venom as much as the far-right it seems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL the far-left loves to drink venom as much as the far-right it seems.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Quijote</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/48089/quote-of-the-day-8/comment-page-1/#comment-218990</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Quijote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;he called Republicans &quot;Knuckle Dragging Neanderthals&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Really, was it really necessary to insult poor defenseless Neanderthals...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>he called Republicans &#8220;Knuckle Dragging Neanderthals&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Really, was it really necessary to insult poor defenseless Neanderthals&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grayson Joe Wilson&#039;d himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grayson Joe Wilson&#39;d himself.</p>
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		<title>By: Father_Time</title>
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		<dc:creator>Father_Time</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 08:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congressman Grayson explained himself perfectly on CNN last night....with one exception...he called Republicans &quot;Knuckle Dragging Neanderthals&quot;….which is unfortunate because up until that point he destroyed the other’s comments. However  I can understand his passion and his point is absolutely correct. Furthermore it is unthinkable that anyone, much less the entire Republican party and a gaggle of blue-nosed Democrats  would take a stand defending their checkbooks rather than those millions of American people suffering under health insurance oppression.  This bizarre behavior in congress over the issue belies America’s greatest weakness and greatest domestic threat…..greed! Unfortunately Wolf Blitzer chose to focus on  the Neanderthal comment rather than  the obvious. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It’s like Paul Revere using the F-bomb when he cries out “the British are Coming!” and we focus on the F-bomb and completely ignore the British. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Congressman Grayson is a Hero, not a distraction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congressman Grayson explained himself perfectly on CNN last night&#8230;.with one exception&#8230;he called Republicans &#8220;Knuckle Dragging Neanderthals&#8221;….which is unfortunate because up until that point he destroyed the other’s comments. However  I can understand his passion and his point is absolutely correct. Furthermore it is unthinkable that anyone, much less the entire Republican party and a gaggle of blue-nosed Democrats  would take a stand defending their checkbooks rather than those millions of American people suffering under health insurance oppression.  This bizarre behavior in congress over the issue belies America’s greatest weakness and greatest domestic threat…..greed! Unfortunately Wolf Blitzer chose to focus on  the Neanderthal comment rather than  the obvious. </p>
<p>It’s like Paul Revere using the F-bomb when he cries out “the British are Coming!” and we focus on the F-bomb and completely ignore the British. </p>
<p>Congressman Grayson is a Hero, not a distraction.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Quote of the Day &#124; insurance expert</dc:creator>
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