Hollywood (and to a lesser extent, the others taking the hard-left line, including in the media) is presently engaging in some of the worst self-destructive PR efforts conceivable.

Not one of them has noted aloud the coincidence that this event involves the Swiss, who recently were made to knuckle under to ObamaCo tax-related demands (identity of Swiss account holders). No squawks then, but now, “Whatever happened to Swiss neutrality?” (What's next, a lament and requiem for Swiss “sovereignty”?) If the Swiss can be made to divulge identification of bank account holders, certainly they can seize and hand over a low-life rapist and fugitive like Polanski, even if this offends the far Left.

I still think that the policies and rhetoric of the right contribute significantly to a culture that tacitly condones violence against women

We can agree to disagree on that.

One question. Do you agree that as a whole Hollywood and the film industry is controlled by the Left/Liberals? If so (and I have to think you would agree with that), how then do you justify your statement in light of the overall portrayal of women in film, and their treatment by the film industry and its power brokers? There are of course the few exceptions each year, but if there is a more degrading and misogynous industry than Hollywood short of stripping. hooking or porn, I cannot think of it.

I, too, apologize for uncouth words when I got heated, but I still vehemently reject your characterizations of the Right towards women.

Perhaps I broadened the discussion too far; it does make me scratch my head when I see feminists and the right suddenly in lockstep on a particular issue, and particularly on an issue closely related to something like women's rights. I still think that the policies and rhetoric of the right contribute significantly to a culture that tacitly condones violence against women, which is why I carry significant cynicism in this case. If this was the wrong place to discuss that, I do take responsibility and apologize for moving the conversation in that direction.

kindest regards,
dr.e

dr.e

If I had killed somebody, it wouldn’t have had so much appeal to the press, you see? But… f—ing, you see, and the young girls. Judges want to f— young girls. Juries want to f— young girls. Everyone wants to f— young girls!

Whole article: Roman Polanski: 'Everyone else fancies little girls too'

ht: the corner

You are the one who took a specific comment that I limited strictly to those who are indeed reprehensibly defending the undefendable (are you ready to defend Polanski?) and then made an ad hominem attack on the Right as a whole as being pro-rape, and only objecting to this case because it involves a Liberal.

You even objected to my pointing out correctly that it is the Right that pushes for stronger laws and punishments against child rape, which again is true. I did not say the Left or Liberals are pro-child rape or even imply any such smear, unlike your smears.

I stick by my deleted comment, btw. At least I know you saw it.

Sorry. I would like to say it won't happen again, but it probably will.

At least I used symbol substitution for the naughty words (used to work!).

How refreshing it is to agree with EVERYONE on a post!!!!

When the question involves the rape of a 13 year old, I don't thing there are any partisan or ideological divides among most Americans.

dr.e

I was trying to be nice, instead of saying what I really felt about what you said, which was to tell you to go f*ck your own sanctimonious a$$hole.

Just to note: it's already been established through this particular case (and countless others) that left-leaning people are just as happy to throw a victim to the wolves as well, depending on the circumstances.

“I will never understand the ability of Hollywood and its Liberals “

See, this is the thing that is so deeply disappointing to me. I'm not one to criticize Hollywood types for using their influence for causes they believe in. I certainly am rare to criticize “liberals”, being a pretty staunch liberal myself. My confusion is: how can these austensibly progressive people, who supposedly hang their political hats on things like equality of justice, equal protection under the law, speaking truth power, leveling the playing field for those without priviledge, women's and children's rights, etc, how can people who believe in these things side with a rich, powerful man over athe innocent little girl he vicitmized in such a brutal way, just because he happens to be an excellent film maker?

In fact, there's something a bit weird about seeing so many far right people suddenly be so interested in justice for a rape victim. I mean, the rape apologism, slut-shaming, she-asked-for-it type language I've seen in the past on this very site regularly blow my mind (not to mention the more right-leaning sites where I occasionally dip my toes). The cynic in me has the thought that some of those who are strongly condemning this particular rape are doing so because they dislike the “Hollywood liberal elite”. I hope that's not the case, and that the next time a story comes out about a right wing man committing a sex crime, or the next time the victim is a woman of color, or the perpetrator is a famous football star, they will be just as disgusted by the crime, just as unwilling to turn their backs on the victims — or worse, blame the victims.

Yeah, nice to have everyone on the same page.

Now if we could just get people to stop saying that anyone who disgrees with them is “wrong”. Oops, sometimes I just can't stop my fingers from typing such things.

Has that ever happened before?

Now if we can just get you pesky liberals to stop being wrong on everything else, we'll all join hands and sing “Kum ba ya”.

LOL

I will never understand the ability of Hollywood and its Liberals (not all Liberals, just the Hollywood ones) to justify the actions of 'one of their own'.