Palin Now Sees China Clearly from Hong Kong Hotel Window
Sep 23rd, 2009 | 91 responses
After becoming an expert on U.S-Russia relations during her campaign for the vice-presidency by claiming that Russia could be seen from Alaska, Sarah Palin can now add a second major power to her foreign policy credentials: China.
By reading a prepared, major foreign policy speech before a packed ballroom in Hong Kong’s Grand Hyatt hotel, Sarah Palin has now clearly and firmly cemented her foreign policy credentials and boosted her credibility for her 2012 presidential run.
While organizers banned media from the event “after the former vice-presidential candidate indicated she would speak differently if reporters were present,” audience members were able to tweet excerpts from her superbly prepared speech.
Acccording to Jonatahn Slone, CLSA’s chief executive officer, “It was a great speech…People got a lot of information” and “are now fully informed on Sarah Palin’s views.”
Her speech, according to the Guardian, covered both US domestic issues and foreign policy, with a particular focus on China.
“She basically said the US would like to not see China as a threat, but because it was not free, there would always be suspicions,” said Jeremy Goldkorn, founder of danwei.org, who attended the session.
Relying on her extensive, newly acquired foreign policy experience, Palin called the Obama administration’s decision to impose duties on Chinese tires a “mistake” and said “We simply cannot turn a blind eye to China’s policies and actions that could undermine international peace and security. China has some 1,000 missiles aimed at Taiwan and no serious observer believes that it poses a military threat to Beijing.” “Those same Chinese forces made our friends in Japan and Australia kinda nervous. China provides support for some of the most questionable regimes from Sudan to Burma to Zimbabwe.”
I am sure that Palin’s excellent, by-others-prepared foreign policy speech made a lot of other countries, and people, kinda nervous, too.
Palin received her first passport in 2007 and traveled extensively to Kuwait and Germany. With this trip to Hong Kong, she certainly rounds out her global travels and experience.
According to the Guardian, Hari Sevugan, a spokesman for the Democratic National Committee, told AP before the speech: “We’re curious as to what she’s willing to say in private but not in public.” “Are there other countries that she can see from her window that she doesn’t want us to know about?”
For more enlightening excerpts from Palin’s by-others-prepared speech, please click here and here.
Note: The opening paragraph has been changed to read: “After becoming an expert on U.S-Russia relations during her campaign for the vice-presidency by claiming that Russia could be seen from Alaska, Sarah Palin can now add a second major power to her foreign policy credentials: China.”
91 Responses to “Palin Now Sees China Clearly from Hong Kong Hotel Window”
So tell me again, Palin holds what government position?
I'm honestly surprised and disappointed this liberal Web site hasn't already begun 2-3+ threads on the speech Obama made to the far-too-respected-and-more United Nations today. (This was the speech the fine people at NPR chose to use our tax dollars to make into a major news event with their commentary as well as his speech, post-speech “analysis,” and related info-mercialist drivel and tax money misuse.)
No joke DLS one there was a semblance of living up to the title “The Moderate Voice” now its almost like MoveOn in here. I hope some of the few remaining moderates and the 1 remaining conservative poster can recruit some new contributors. If I want to read liberal drivel I can go to the Democratic Underground.
They've got to keep their eye on the ball, you know. Come to think of it, I haven't even read one story about ACORN or biggovernment.com here, why is that?
By the way, Dorian, are you implying that Mr. Obama writes his own speeches or are you pulling you ideas out of your ass?
John Favreau anyone?
DLS / PWT… Somebody call the Waaaaaaaaahmbulance!
Hey the pom pom squad has arrived.
Speaking of the Vice presidential nominees in 2008.
So why is this guy newsworthy?
http://slatest.slate.com/id/2229197/entry/2
Guys, you need to take it easy on De Wind. He had to patiently wait all morning ignoring all the Obama news on Memeorandum until enough lefty bloggers pushed the Palin article high enough up to the top for him to find it so he could find something to express his opinion on.
Oh liberals, you really don't get it. Palin is the best thing that can happen to you guys. Stop bashing her. Save it for 2012 when it really matters. The last thing you want to do is weaken her before she can win the Rep nomination. Be nice, let her ratings go up, and then destroy her in 2012.
Let go of 2008, you won.
Come to think of it, I haven't even read one story about ACORN or biggovernment.com here, why is that?
Maybe you should do a Google search for TMV site before you go Fox News on us.
http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&…
Results 1 – 10 of about 162 from themoderatevoice.com for acorn. (0.22 seconds)
Back when I had math classes I learned 0/=162…
Even the NEA non story gets two posts, not (haven't even read one story)…
Though generally not a Palin fan, I disagree with the tenor of this post. To the extent that she has been criticized for lacking experience, and told to go get some, this does add to her resume'. That someone else wrote the speech? Non-issue. She went there, reviewed the speech and delivered it. As one who has dissed her in the past, I'll give her credit here.
If Progressive want to score some points I have a suggestion for them. Go after Conservatives who actually hold office or receive funding on political issues. Something that Conservative posters here manage to do regularly vs Liberals. Its a lot more credible than rants about Glen Beck and Sarah Palin who are not office holders, or about Eric Cantor actually trying to help a woman find money to treat her relative.
Rudi, you're right, I even commented on the ACORN post – smooth on my part.
By the way, I don't watch Fox News, nor any news cast in general, I have better things to do with my time after work – either the UFC or NASCAAR
[chuckle] And no, I didn't expect anything on here lately about ACORN, even though it was the hottest story in the news recently. At least T-Steel's thread and one other made it onto here. (I don't consider ACORN properly “cracked and roasted” yet and I still harbor the real concern they'll be involved in some sinister way in the Census next year and subsequent redistricting.)
“either the UFC or NASCAR”
How 'bout drinkin' cheap beer, and shootin' tracer ammo at 'splodin' targets? Bonus points for Obama doll 'n' such. [hiccup]
Steve K — as Roro needs to hope for logical-thinking-related”health” benefits, you could use some, too.
P.S. My apologies for gettin' the end of the last posting wrawng. Should be, “'bama dawl.”
Kentucky Bourbon for me.
“whiskey, oh whiskey, Kentucky Bourbon straight up raw,
if I can't have whiskey for breakfast, I won't have nothin' at all…”
Huh? I've not commented on this post, and don't know to what you are referring.
Let's see. ACORN, NASCAR, cheap beer, shooting at targets of the President.
I thought the post was about Palin in China. Are we being treated to the “Discourse of Distraction” again?
YIKES! It shure's hot in here!
I have a lil' soft spot for Sarah Palin due to her Georgia PTA mom quality (moms that I get along with famously on the PTA). But I digress.
While I don't necessarily agree with much of what she said in her foreign policy speech, I do agree with Leonidas' first comment: she doesn't hold a political office so I really don't care. She's a bit player right now. Now if she's going to try to make a run for the Presidency in 2012, then I'm all ears (Obama style… sorry Mr. President but I couldn't help myself).
And my dear commenters, could we please not attack the entire site and keep the criticism to the author and what he/she has written? Thanks friends.
“Kentucky Bourbon for me.”
[grin] Those big bottles shatter into fabulous glass shards when shawtt, too! [hiccup]
Oops. I missed. Wunder where that bullet went ta…
After becoming an expert on U.S-Russia relations during her campaign for the vice-presidency by claiming that she could see Russia from her house in Alaska,
I'm pretty sure Palin didn't say that, that was the SNL skit.
Lightweights are not invited to spend 90 minutes addressing packed main ballrooms of heavy hitter international investors for six figure engagements. I'd say this is a definitive in your face Eff You and the Little Dog You Rode in On gesture to the skeptics.
How does the “Moderate” Voice respond? With petty snark, repeating the “see Russia from my house” manufactured quote from Tina Fey, not Sarah Palin.
Eat your hearts out “moderates”.
The actual Palin quote is: “”As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where– where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border.” This was in response to a question about her foriegn policy experience. So no, she never said “I can see Russia from my house”, but she did imply that mere physical proximity to Russia counted as foriegn policy experience.
“Palin holds what government position?”
Official object of federal-government-fan hatred. Perhaps, without being concealed well, also the object of fear and loathing among those same people that she may be the next President of the United States.
After all, look at how the lib Dems in (Obama, Congress) are self-destructing, especially with health care.
“Palin holds what government position?”
So, despite the fact that she was recently not only the governor of a huge if sparsely populated state but also the VP candidate less than a year ago, despite the obvious push she will soon make to run for the highest office in the land, despite the fact that she is constantly shoving herself (and her family) into the spotlight at every possible chance, she's not ok to talk about because she doesn't currently hold an office (because of her own choosing)?
I'm with you on this, Tidbits. You can't criticize her for doing what you told her to do. And no, she currently holds no government post, fair enough. That didn't keep a former long-time ago one term Georgia governor from becoming President.
I think the NEA thing is a story. From the sounds of it, some people in the white house broke a number of federal laws.
Ahah, The “Moderate”, er “Liberal” Voice strikes again, trashing the former Gov of Alaska. Funny, I didn't see too many jokes around here when Obama pronounced there were 57 states in the ole USA. I found that as funny as anything Gov Palin has said.
Knob Creek is excellent, if you haven't tried it do so.
It is refreshing to see that there can be plenty of interest, reaction, and comments on a post (satirical or not) that doesn't call a person (whether he or she holds office or not) a Nazi, a Communist, a Soclialist, “palin” around with terrorists, and worse.
Things are looking up
Thanks
Out of respect for you T-Steel, will do. Your one of the reasons I still keep this blog in my moderate/independent blog instead of Left blog section. But let me first make a final appeal to you to recruit more moderate/centrist or right leaning bloggers for some balance.
So has Jazz or any of the other right of center authors here posted a lot of items about John Edwards? Seems that they are generally much more moderate than many of the left of center authors here, or at the very minimum more interested in real issues and not tabloid bits.
Leonidas — I'm not sure how your question follows the quote, but I think I see what you're trying to say. My answer would be: no, but I don't think that that is, in particular, a left-leaning bias. It's that Edwards' career is over, and even those of us who thought he was awesome and wonderfully idealistic and unique as far as passion for the poverty-stricken, even we now just shake our heads in disgust. Palin, on the other hand, was not ousted from her political career (she left it of her own accord and for higher ambitions), and we all know we'll most likely see a lot more of her — like her or not, it seems inevitable that she'll be in the national (and, from this article) international limelight for some time now. So the difference is: one is a story, the other is not. One is relevant, one is not.
Well when Palin attempts to take on a government position, she is a valid target. The vitrol that the left aims at her now is nonsensical. I find such undisguised hatred of her puzzling. I can understand disagreement with her policies, but the left has gone far beyond that. Their suggestions that she wasn't Trigs mother ranks right up there with the “Birther” loons, and there mischaracterizations of her Russian quote and other items aren't much better. She had enough faults for valid criticism, I never liked her much myself (although I did like her attribute of being the only real non establishment outsider in the election), but the left went far beyond the valid. Well campaigns are like that and so be it, no biggie, but the campaign has been over long enough not to continue such nonsense, on a site that calls itself moderate.
I think that Sarah Palin's favorability percentages are just too darned low to be confiding to roro that she plans to run for POTUS.
She ought to set her sites on an office where abysmal support from the American public is just fine…..like Democrat Speaker of the House or Senate Majority Leader.
You're mistaken, DaGoat. She did say it. She said she had foreign policy experience because she could see Russia from Alaska. I don't know if she said her “house” specifically, but that doesn't really make a substantive difference.
“the left went far beyond the valid”
In this, I do agree with you completely. The Trig rumors were beyond the pale, as were many other sexist, below the belt hits. The comment about Russia is fair game, in my opinion — she was answering a question about her foriegn policy experience for a job that's one step away from the presidency, and she thought proximity had something to do with it. By that logic, everyone in El Paso is an expert on Mexico-US relations.
“when Palin attempts to take on a government position, she is a valid target.”
If she is over seas giving speeches to packed ballrooms full of international fund-managers on foreign and domestic policy, she's presenting herself as a politician, as a public figure, as a representative of at least some of the American public, and as someone who believes she has or will soon have some sway over such issues. If she's allowed to make this sort of speech, the rest of us need to have the ability to talk about what she's saying and what she's doing, whether she's currently in an office or not.
Leonidas,
There are several, at least, center-right, centrist, or right-leaning bloggers at TMV. I've named some before, but if you can't see them even when they post, what's the point? Also, TMV has many more bloggers signed up to post than actually post on a regular basis, or at all. That's not TMV's fault or doing, Leonidas. We don't force people to post here.
“I think the NEA thing is a story. From the sounds of it, some people in the white house broke a number of federal laws.”
Of course it's a story. But would it be reported here? Not unless it became so big that the media would be forced to face it, and would sensationalize it. Until then, it's something to be suppressed, and anyone who mentions it is of questionable (politically incorrect) repute.
http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/pcourrielche/…
“I don't know if she said her “house” specifically, but that doesn't really make a substantive difference”
Well then find the quote Kathy. As a matter of fact Roro posted the quote and what she could “see” had nothing to do with it. It was infact a SNL skit that morons keep repeating as if Palin had said it. Take her to task for implying that Alaska's location gives her some international experience, but there is a hell of a lot of difference between the reality and a SNL caricature.
CORRECTION: I should have said:
“And my dear commenters, could we please not attack the entire site and keep the criticism to what the author has written and not what he/she is, should be, will become, etc?”
I was doing a few different things and cut/paste the wrong reply. Sorry about that.
Leonidas, we have a sizable list of authors from all over the map politically but a substantial (unfortunately) are not active. We'll continue to do our best to bring as many different ACTIVE writers as possible. And thanks.
“The vitrol that the left aims at her now is nonsensical. I find such undisguised hatred of her puzzling.”
Given the other silliness I've seen here lately, I'm not that puzzled any more. Annoyed or irritated, yes. She personifies social conservatives and the social-conservative face of the GOP, which makes her a natural object of such vitriol; she's also popular (in fact, attracting defenders if not admirers the more scummy the attacks on her are), doing better than expected, in contrast to President Obama, not to mention the Democratic Party and the loony lib Dems in the House. (Why can't the worst of them be stuffed and left in the UN General Assembly with their fellow freakish zoo creatures?)
(Incidentally, there's still no word on here about Obama's speech to the beloved UN today. Granted, there was nothing that could be “spun” far to the left about it, and the waters didn't part nor any other kind of miracle happen today. Still, I identify this as an example of neglect — which is more laudable than what can be said about the substitution of the Palin “story.”)
Personally I don't get very excited about UN speeches from our Presidents. So I just can't muster the finger strength to write something about. Now if we want to talk about Spongebob Squarepants, my fingers are energized for writing!
In a Sept. 11, 2008 interview with ABC's Charlie Gibson, Sarah Palin said this about Russia: “They're our next-door neighbors, and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.”
And, no she hasn't said (yet) that she could see China clearly from her Hong Kong hotel window.
In a piece that contains satire (perhaps it was too subtle), such parody is common, and is generally not called “vitrol.”.
I am not apologizing (except to those who have never–even in satire–criticized anyone–in government or not in government–or any group, or any political party), I am just clarifying.
Thank you
Dorian
P.S. Perhaps our Site Adminsitrator ( T.S.) can dig up the “tags,” where I clearly included “satire.”
I don't know how to do it
“I don't get very excited about UN speeches from our Presidents”
I don't find the UN very exciting, either. For whatever reason(???), NPR did, however.
“Spongebob Squarepants”
I'm not out of ammo yet.
There is a clear distinction between parody or satire, and true vitriol. The Palin phenomenon and the vitriol routinely directed at her is a broad and deep issue (whose scope obviously is not limited to thie start of this thread alone) and normally is no matter of fine distinction — it is obvious (and crude).
Well, by the time '12 rolls around, Palin will be a world traveler. And its no coincidence that she didn't want any media coverage- she still blames the media for her loss in '08.
Even W was incredulous that Palin was picked for the VP slot, according to the new book out by one of his speech writers.
Well, DLS, I am sorry that you can not tell the difference between the “true vitriol” that abounds, from the left and the right and my satire–albeit critical of Ms. Palin.
But I'll let you have the last word on this.