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	<title>Comments on: Health Care Debate Makes Life Hard for Black &#8216;Blue Dogs&#8217; in Georgia</title>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh I&#039;m sure they do, but what can the special interest congressional black caucus do but support a more progressive democratic candidate?  If they do and win the primary, they likely kill their chance to win the general election in these Republican leaning districts.  I think they are less likely to do that than the voters are to forgive the Blue Dogs if they fold to the liberals.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Still comes down to partisan support of their party/congressional black caucus or re-election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh I&#39;m sure they do, but what can the special interest congressional black caucus do but support a more progressive democratic candidate?  If they do and win the primary, they likely kill their chance to win the general election in these Republican leaning districts.  I think they are less likely to do that than the voters are to forgive the Blue Dogs if they fold to the liberals.</p>
<p>Still comes down to partisan support of their party/congressional black caucus or re-election.</p>
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		<title>By: Gegenschattenbild</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gegenschattenbild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leonidas, you act as if special interest groups have no influence over the opinions of the folks who vote, or for that matter, vice-versa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leonidas, you act as if special interest groups have no influence over the opinions of the folks who vote, or for that matter, vice-versa.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 19:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Joe Liebermann faced a similar difficulty, he stood by his guns lost the democratic primary, and then got re-elected by the voters in his district.  These blue dogs will likely find themselves in a similar situation, they can please the folks who vote for them, or they can please a special interest group in Congress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Joe Liebermann faced a similar difficulty, he stood by his guns lost the democratic primary, and then got re-elected by the voters in his district.  These blue dogs will likely find themselves in a similar situation, they can please the folks who vote for them, or they can please a special interest group in Congress.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 18:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enjoy the show not only in Atlanta, but outside it, Joe (and T-Steel).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Blue Dogs are a more grown-up bunch, but they face a real test of partisanship and &quot;loyalty&quot; as well as the ideological challenge.  The Baucus bill has fizzled and there&#039;s now probably going to be more, not less, pressure to move eventual legislation farther left than pre-Baucus.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Perhaps it&#039;s time not only for Obama but for other Dems to exploit the &quot;campaign&quot; phenemonon and try to put a more &quot;centrist,&quot; &quot;safe and sane&quot; &quot;We are not radical&quot; face on the effort (even though it is going to be a likely leftward move, preserving some kind of public option or &quot;co-opting&quot; [!] the co-ops to become the &quot;stealth public option&quot; -- make it a state or federal _government_ co-op system).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enjoy the show not only in Atlanta, but outside it, Joe (and T-Steel).</p>
<p>The Blue Dogs are a more grown-up bunch, but they face a real test of partisanship and &#8220;loyalty&#8221; as well as the ideological challenge.  The Baucus bill has fizzled and there&#39;s now probably going to be more, not less, pressure to move eventual legislation farther left than pre-Baucus.</p>
<p>Perhaps it&#39;s time not only for Obama but for other Dems to exploit the &#8220;campaign&#8221; phenemonon and try to put a more &#8220;centrist,&#8221; &#8220;safe and sane&#8221; &#8220;We are not radical&#8221; face on the effort (even though it is going to be a likely leftward move, preserving some kind of public option or &#8220;co-opting&#8221; [!] the co-ops to become the &#8220;stealth public option&#8221; &#8212; make it a state or federal _government_ co-op system).</p>
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