
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: CNN&#8217;s Sanchez, ABC&#8217;s Trapper and CBS to FOX News: You Lie</title>
	<atom:link href="http://themoderatevoice.com/46767/cnns-sanchez-abcs-trapper-and-cbs-to-fox-news-you-lie/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/46767/cnns-sanchez-abcs-trapper-and-cbs-to-fox-news-you-lie/</link>
	<description>An Internet hub with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, indies, centrists, moderates, and right</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Wed, 30 May 2012 21:54:33 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: archangel</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/46767/cnns-sanchez-abcs-trapper-and-cbs-to-fox-news-you-lie/comment-page-2/#comment-216253</link>
		<dc:creator>archangel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=46767#comment-216253</guid>
		<description>comments that violate TMV rules for commenters have been removed. The flow of comments that were on topic are not affected. TMV comment area is for comments on the topic of the article. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;thanks.&lt;br&gt;dr.e&lt;br&gt;Editor TMV</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>comments that violate TMV rules for commenters have been removed. The flow of comments that were on topic are not affected. TMV comment area is for comments on the topic of the article. </p>
<p>thanks.<br />dr.e<br />Editor TMV</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: GeorgeSorwell</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/46767/cnns-sanchez-abcs-trapper-and-cbs-to-fox-news-you-lie/comment-page-2/#comment-215927</link>
		<dc:creator>GeorgeSorwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 03:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=46767#comment-215927</guid>
		<description>Scott W. Somerville--&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If there&#039;s a &quot;legitimate photo&quot;, where is it? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Some legitimate source would be very useful to support your assertion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott W. Somerville&#8211;</p>
<p>If there&#39;s a &#8220;legitimate photo&#8221;, where is it? </p>
<p>Some legitimate source would be very useful to support your assertion.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: archangel</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/46767/cnns-sanchez-abcs-trapper-and-cbs-to-fox-news-you-lie/comment-page-2/#comment-215926</link>
		<dc:creator>archangel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 03:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=46767#comment-215926</guid>
		<description>All is well MagicalSkyFather. We&#039;re all rolling forward on track again. Thank you for your comment on this aspect. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;dr.e</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All is well MagicalSkyFather. We&#39;re all rolling forward on track again. Thank you for your comment on this aspect. </p>
<p>dr.e</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: TheMagicalSkyFather</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/46767/cnns-sanchez-abcs-trapper-and-cbs-to-fox-news-you-lie/comment-page-2/#comment-215919</link>
		<dc:creator>TheMagicalSkyFather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 02:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=46767#comment-215919</guid>
		<description>Sorry Dr E, I think a good part of this side track was caused by me which was not the intent.  I think once you find a &quot;nice&quot; topic to discuss with someone you thought you may never agree with things tend to get out of hand.  Then that conversation got blended in with an argument and things got ugly, for that I blame myself.  That and I ramble and roll through topics like a truck driver goes through cups of coffee, sorry for my part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Dr E, I think a good part of this side track was caused by me which was not the intent.  I think once you find a &#8220;nice&#8221; topic to discuss with someone you thought you may never agree with things tend to get out of hand.  Then that conversation got blended in with an argument and things got ugly, for that I blame myself.  That and I ramble and roll through topics like a truck driver goes through cups of coffee, sorry for my part.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: archangel</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/46767/cnns-sanchez-abcs-trapper-and-cbs-to-fox-news-you-lie/comment-page-2/#comment-215914</link>
		<dc:creator>archangel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 02:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=46767#comment-215914</guid>
		<description>Enough now Daveinboca and all others: TMV won&#039;t tolerate your use of special needs kids&#039; diagnosis to insult others, Dave. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The comment board is for commenting on the topic of the article, not each other. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;thanks.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;dr.e</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enough now Daveinboca and all others: TMV won&#39;t tolerate your use of special needs kids&#39; diagnosis to insult others, Dave. </p>
<p>The comment board is for commenting on the topic of the article, not each other. </p>
<p>thanks.</p>
<p>dr.e</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: daveinboca</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/46767/cnns-sanchez-abcs-trapper-and-cbs-to-fox-news-you-lie/comment-page-2/#comment-215908</link>
		<dc:creator>daveinboca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 01:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=46767#comment-215908</guid>
		<description>That was a reply to to TMSF, who was talking to me about possible mutual Wisconsin pals.   But thanks for being that nasty old neighbor who tells everybody to keep off his lawn....&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;No dementia on my part, but you seem to be inaccurate, which is the usual case with delirium.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Your autistic remark about being in marches brought my response.  Sorry for descending to your level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was a reply to to TMSF, who was talking to me about possible mutual Wisconsin pals.   But thanks for being that nasty old neighbor who tells everybody to keep off his lawn&#8230;.</p>
<p>No dementia on my part, but you seem to be inaccurate, which is the usual case with delirium.</p>
<p>Your autistic remark about being in marches brought my response.  Sorry for descending to your level.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/46767/cnns-sanchez-abcs-trapper-and-cbs-to-fox-news-you-lie/comment-page-2/#comment-215891</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=46767#comment-215891</guid>
		<description>Had never heard of &quot;Brobambi&quot; before, not a term this critic of the President would use.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think I prefer&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;One&lt;br&gt;Big&lt;br&gt;A**ed&lt;br&gt;Mistake&lt;br&gt;America&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And my criticism has nothing to do with race.  I&#039;d have loved to have seen Colin Powell as President, or JC Watts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had never heard of &#8220;Brobambi&#8221; before, not a term this critic of the President would use.</p>
<p>I think I prefer</p>
<p>One<br />Big<br />A**ed<br />Mistake<br />America</p>
<p>And my criticism has nothing to do with race.  I&#39;d have loved to have seen Colin Powell as President, or JC Watts.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: LionAslan</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/46767/cnns-sanchez-abcs-trapper-and-cbs-to-fox-news-you-lie/comment-page-2/#comment-215883</link>
		<dc:creator>LionAslan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=46767#comment-215883</guid>
		<description>you&#039;re wrong on all counts Boca. Again. And your little social news about going to your high school reunion,  your social life has nothing to do with this article. Again. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The count on Wash DC marches for the public to be seen and heard, are always contested. Going back to the mid 1800s. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you Boca were &#039;everywhere&#039; as you claim &#039;before anyone else was,&#039; that sounds like dementia on your part. Your inability to count straight about who was where when without you even knowing others here, only highlights your usual self centered illogic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you&#39;re wrong on all counts Boca. Again. And your little social news about going to your high school reunion,  your social life has nothing to do with this article. Again. </p>
<p>The count on Wash DC marches for the public to be seen and heard, are always contested. Going back to the mid 1800s. </p>
<p>If you Boca were &#39;everywhere&#39; as you claim &#39;before anyone else was,&#39; that sounds like dementia on your part. Your inability to count straight about who was where when without you even knowing others here, only highlights your usual self centered illogic.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: daveinboca</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/46767/cnns-sanchez-abcs-trapper-and-cbs-to-fox-news-you-lie/comment-page-2/#comment-215881</link>
		<dc:creator>daveinboca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=46767#comment-215881</guid>
		<description>Indeed, and I&#039;m going to a high school reunion next year in Milwaukee anyway, so I&#039;m ready to network all over again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, and I&#39;m going to a high school reunion next year in Milwaukee anyway, so I&#39;m ready to network all over again.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: daveinboca</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/46767/cnns-sanchez-abcs-trapper-and-cbs-to-fox-news-you-lie/comment-page-2/#comment-215880</link>
		<dc:creator>daveinboca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=46767#comment-215880</guid>
		<description>I&#039;ve read the Miami &quot;cosmopolitan&quot; fact in the Daily Mail &amp; on a UN population survey and saw it on network news, which even semi-lits like urself watch.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Not many michuacanos down here, they&#039;re in Chicago.  You obviously are ESL if you didn&#039;t catch my noting a lot of Hispanics in Miami, of whom less than half are Cuban and a very small fraction Mexican.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I lived in DC around 20 years and have marched and watched marches before you were ever there.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Curb your delirium....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ve read the Miami &#8220;cosmopolitan&#8221; fact in the Daily Mail &#038; on a UN population survey and saw it on network news, which even semi-lits like urself watch.</p>
<p>Not many michuacanos down here, they&#39;re in Chicago.  You obviously are ESL if you didn&#39;t catch my noting a lot of Hispanics in Miami, of whom less than half are Cuban and a very small fraction Mexican.  </p>
<p>I lived in DC around 20 years and have marched and watched marches before you were ever there.</p>
<p>Curb your delirium&#8230;.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: CNN’s Sanchez, ABC’s Trapper and CBS to FOX News: You Lie &#124; USA Business News</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/46767/cnns-sanchez-abcs-trapper-and-cbs-to-fox-news-you-lie/comment-page-2/#comment-215887</link>
		<dc:creator>CNN’s Sanchez, ABC’s Trapper and CBS to FOX News: You Lie &#124; USA Business News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 21:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=46767#comment-215887</guid>
		<description>[...] Read the rest here:  CNN’s Sanchez, ABC’s Trapper and CBS to FOX News: You Lie [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Read the rest here:  CNN’s Sanchez, ABC’s Trapper and CBS to FOX News: You Lie [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: LionAslan</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/46767/cnns-sanchez-abcs-trapper-and-cbs-to-fox-news-you-lie/comment-page-2/#comment-215867</link>
		<dc:creator>LionAslan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 21:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=46767#comment-215867</guid>
		<description>dave in boca says &#039;miams is most cosmopolitan city in the world.&#039;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You&#039;re so small town Boca. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And not an expert on differences between south florida and north florida. The cubanos alone, as well as the michuacanos laugh in your face. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You need to get out. You have obviously been no where recently in Asia, Australia, or elsewhere. Miami cosmopolitan indeed. Most of us who have been there see the dreck, the corruption, the in-fighting, the lack of ability to think in miami except by racial group.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Your posturing is laughable.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The issue is not about dave in boca. Even though bocaboy tries to take over the post with his private wailing about his own boils. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just this: those of us who walked the walk, remember that vets marching in DC, war protesters marching in DC, ALL were rankled by the &#039;official numbers.&#039; This is nothing new. Not at all. Your memory boca, is poor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dave in boca says &#39;miams is most cosmopolitan city in the world.&#39;</p>
<p>Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha.</p>
<p>You&#39;re so small town Boca. </p>
<p>And not an expert on differences between south florida and north florida. The cubanos alone, as well as the michuacanos laugh in your face. </p>
<p>You need to get out. You have obviously been no where recently in Asia, Australia, or elsewhere. Miami cosmopolitan indeed. Most of us who have been there see the dreck, the corruption, the in-fighting, the lack of ability to think in miami except by racial group.</p>
<p>Your posturing is laughable.</p>
<p>The issue is not about dave in boca. Even though bocaboy tries to take over the post with his private wailing about his own boils. </p>
<p>Just this: those of us who walked the walk, remember that vets marching in DC, war protesters marching in DC, ALL were rankled by the &#39;official numbers.&#39; This is nothing new. Not at all. Your memory boca, is poor.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: TheMagicalSkyFather</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/46767/cnns-sanchez-abcs-trapper-and-cbs-to-fox-news-you-lie/comment-page-2/#comment-215865</link>
		<dc:creator>TheMagicalSkyFather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 21:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=46767#comment-215865</guid>
		<description>This is way off topic but I did have to note one of my co-workers that is a huge fan of Glenn Beck is also from WI originally and is now in Portland, I will have to ask if he has any relatives in your area as we may know some common people, small world indeed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is way off topic but I did have to note one of my co-workers that is a huge fan of Glenn Beck is also from WI originally and is now in Portland, I will have to ask if he has any relatives in your area as we may know some common people, small world indeed!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/46767/cnns-sanchez-abcs-trapper-and-cbs-to-fox-news-you-lie/comment-page-2/#comment-215860</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 20:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=46767#comment-215860</guid>
		<description>&quot;Too bad Peter Jennings won&#039;t be around to scold the American people for having a &#039;temper tantrum.&#039;&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They&#039;re more sloppy this time.  That even extends to saying &quot;yell&quot; rather than &quot;shout.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Too bad Peter Jennings won&#39;t be around to scold the American people for having a &#39;temper tantrum.&#39;&#8221;</p>
<p>They&#39;re more sloppy this time.  That even extends to saying &#8220;yell&#8221; rather than &#8220;shout.&#8221;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/46767/cnns-sanchez-abcs-trapper-and-cbs-to-fox-news-you-lie/comment-page-2/#comment-215859</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 20:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=46767#comment-215859</guid>
		<description>&quot;I recommend Jonah Goldberg&#039;s excellent &#039;Liberal Fascism&#039;&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dave, I&#039;ve read it, and while the many critics on the Left are reflexively defensive about it, he&#039;s perfectly right about how fascistic behavior has been a staple of the Left in particular here in the States since the 1930s.  (A more obscure work written at that time, Lawrence Dennis&#039;s &quot;The Coming American Fascism&quot; is as accurate as the book by Rex Tugwell, the New Deal architect, that was written later, with a 1960s-ish flair [&quot;The Emerging Constitution&quot;], in describing as well as justifying, or at least rationalizing, why it made sense.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To this day I&#039;ve never been refuted when I&#039;ve said that the early 1990s HMO-&quot;alliance&quot;-based plan of Hillary Clinton&#039;s was fascistic, _and_ that &quot;single-payer&quot; advocates on the far Left (such as Melvin Konner) were either too afraid or too dishonest to say so (because it exposes the nature of so much of modern liberalism and authoritarianism since the capital-P Progressive era and especially since the 1930s and our modern welfare state establishment).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;ObamaCare, a managed cartel, has elements of this same fascistic scheme, but was more transparent incrementalist takeover attempt and movement toward &quot;single-payer&quot; with its &quot;public option&quot; component.  (Note that this &quot;public option&quot; is the main obstacle to passage and a major object of rejection by much of the public and non-lib Dems in Washington, but is the core of the lib Dems&#039; effort, and is far from doomed at this moment.  I still say the co-op fall-back may be taken and modified and augmented to be more like the public option eventually, as one lib Dem strategy.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I recommend Jonah Goldberg&#39;s excellent &#39;Liberal Fascism&#39;&#8221;</p>
<p>Dave, I&#39;ve read it, and while the many critics on the Left are reflexively defensive about it, he&#39;s perfectly right about how fascistic behavior has been a staple of the Left in particular here in the States since the 1930s.  (A more obscure work written at that time, Lawrence Dennis&#39;s &#8220;The Coming American Fascism&#8221; is as accurate as the book by Rex Tugwell, the New Deal architect, that was written later, with a 1960s-ish flair ["The Emerging Constitution"], in describing as well as justifying, or at least rationalizing, why it made sense.)</p>
<p>To this day I&#39;ve never been refuted when I&#39;ve said that the early 1990s HMO-&#8221;alliance&#8221;-based plan of Hillary Clinton&#39;s was fascistic, _and_ that &#8220;single-payer&#8221; advocates on the far Left (such as Melvin Konner) were either too afraid or too dishonest to say so (because it exposes the nature of so much of modern liberalism and authoritarianism since the capital-P Progressive era and especially since the 1930s and our modern welfare state establishment).</p>
<p>ObamaCare, a managed cartel, has elements of this same fascistic scheme, but was more transparent incrementalist takeover attempt and movement toward &#8220;single-payer&#8221; with its &#8220;public option&#8221; component.  (Note that this &#8220;public option&#8221; is the main obstacle to passage and a major object of rejection by much of the public and non-lib Dems in Washington, but is the core of the lib Dems&#39; effort, and is far from doomed at this moment.  I still say the co-op fall-back may be taken and modified and augmented to be more like the public option eventually, as one lib Dem strategy.)</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: nicrivera</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/46767/cnns-sanchez-abcs-trapper-and-cbs-to-fox-news-you-lie/comment-page-2/#comment-215856</link>
		<dc:creator>nicrivera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 20:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=46767#comment-215856</guid>
		<description>In fairness to Fox News, the 1.7 million number cited by Glenn Beck was apparently verified by the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1YBqpk69s0&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;University of I Don&#039;t Remember&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fairness to Fox News, the 1.7 million number cited by Glenn Beck was apparently verified by the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1YBqpk69s0" rel="nofollow">University of I Don&#39;t Remember</a>.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: TheMagicalSkyFather</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/46767/cnns-sanchez-abcs-trapper-and-cbs-to-fox-news-you-lie/comment-page-2/#comment-215848</link>
		<dc:creator>TheMagicalSkyFather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 19:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=46767#comment-215848</guid>
		<description>They stopped letting people in due to security.  That was why.  I just moved to Portland a few years ago so that is probably why it seems so oddly &quot;clean&quot; to me, that and I moved here from IN with a few year stop over in LA so my bar had been greatly lowered by then as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They stopped letting people in due to security.  That was why.  I just moved to Portland a few years ago so that is probably why it seems so oddly &#8220;clean&#8221; to me, that and I moved here from IN with a few year stop over in LA so my bar had been greatly lowered by then as well.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: nicrivera</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/46767/cnns-sanchez-abcs-trapper-and-cbs-to-fox-news-you-lie/comment-page-2/#comment-215847</link>
		<dc:creator>nicrivera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 19:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=46767#comment-215847</guid>
		<description>As entertaining as I find this &quot;debate&quot; to be, I nonetheless feel compelled to point out just how far everyone has deviated from the initial subject of this post (the factual accuracy of the question asked in the Fox News ad &quot;How Did ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC and CNN miss this story?&quot;).&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Fox News made the assertion that the other news networks missed covering the 9/12 protest, which is demonstrably untrue. As Sanchez points out, Bill O&#039;Reilly, himself, had a story about CNN&#039;s coverage of the 9/12 event.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;How can Fox News assert that its competitor did not cover an event after one of its lead commentators writes a story criticizing its competitor&#039;s coverage of the event? Talk about cognitive dissonance!&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;So, rather than going all &quot;Joe Wilson&quot; on Fox News, I&#039;ll simply point out that in this case, Fox News&#039; ad was &quot;factually incorrect.&quot;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As entertaining as I find this &#8220;debate&#8221; to be, I nonetheless feel compelled to point out just how far everyone has deviated from the initial subject of this post (the factual accuracy of the question asked in the Fox News ad &#8220;How Did ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC and CNN miss this story?&#8221;).</p>
<p>Fox News made the assertion that the other news networks missed covering the 9/12 protest, which is demonstrably untrue. As Sanchez points out, Bill O&#39;Reilly, himself, had a story about CNN&#39;s coverage of the 9/12 event.</p>
<p>How can Fox News assert that its competitor did not cover an event after one of its lead commentators writes a story criticizing its competitor&#39;s coverage of the event? Talk about cognitive dissonance!</p>
<p>So, rather than going all &#8220;Joe Wilson&#8221; on Fox News, I&#39;ll simply point out that in this case, Fox News&#39; ad was &#8220;factually incorrect.&#8221;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: daveinboca</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/46767/cnns-sanchez-abcs-trapper-and-cbs-to-fox-news-you-lie/comment-page-2/#comment-215842</link>
		<dc:creator>daveinboca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 19:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=46767#comment-215842</guid>
		<description>Well, I love hangin&#039; in bookstores &amp; loved SF in the day, where I was at the old Family Dog and saw the Dead on 800 mics of windowpane while Commander Cody &amp; the Lost Planet Airmen, for whom I was the bouncer, doorman, et al, in Ann Arbor, opened for them.  City Lights was my fave hangout, but then I joined the State Dept and life got serious.   Seriously better too, but that&#039;s another story.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;N. Florida is very different from S. Florida, which is an extension in Boca of NYC &amp; New England, and in Miami of South America.  Miami is the most cosmopolitan city in the WORLD, with the highest percentage of foreign born inhabitants of any major metropolis anywhere.   My daughter is a student at U.Miami and loves it, as do I.  The B &amp; N there on Miracle Mile in Coral Gables is virtually a human biodiversity test tube, with at least a dozen languages being spoken at the Starbucks in the store, where I hang out and drink chai.   I gave a talk on Iran there a couple of years ago and keep in touch with the foreign affairs folks there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I love hangin&#39; in bookstores &#038; loved SF in the day, where I was at the old Family Dog and saw the Dead on 800 mics of windowpane while Commander Cody &#038; the Lost Planet Airmen, for whom I was the bouncer, doorman, et al, in Ann Arbor, opened for them.  City Lights was my fave hangout, but then I joined the State Dept and life got serious.   Seriously better too, but that&#39;s another story.  </p>
<p>N. Florida is very different from S. Florida, which is an extension in Boca of NYC &#038; New England, and in Miami of South America.  Miami is the most cosmopolitan city in the WORLD, with the highest percentage of foreign born inhabitants of any major metropolis anywhere.   My daughter is a student at U.Miami and loves it, as do I.  The B &#038; N there on Miracle Mile in Coral Gables is virtually a human biodiversity test tube, with at least a dozen languages being spoken at the Starbucks in the store, where I hang out and drink chai.   I gave a talk on Iran there a couple of years ago and keep in touch with the foreign affairs folks there.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: daveinboca</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/46767/cnns-sanchez-abcs-trapper-and-cbs-to-fox-news-you-lie/comment-page-2/#comment-215834</link>
		<dc:creator>daveinboca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 19:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=46767#comment-215834</guid>
		<description>I recommend Jonah Goldberg&#039;s excellent &quot;Liberal Fascism&quot; for exploring the underlying dynamic in movements of the left and right which try to exclude opposition by any and all means possible.   In the USA, we are protected by the marvelous First Amendment, but in the UK, for example, libel laws constantly hamper free speech because even if no infraction is committed, a person can be tied up in litigious expensive lawsuits by wealthy or influential &quot;victims&quot; supposedly slandered, even if what the &quot;slander&quot; says is true.   Ditto for France, where I worked and had to sit in court hearings as a Vice Consul.  France today is essentially an efficient fascist state where opposition is thwarted by a myriad of means by the government, ditto for Switzerland, the MOST efficient fascist state in the world, according to our American ambassador in my day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recommend Jonah Goldberg&#39;s excellent &#8220;Liberal Fascism&#8221; for exploring the underlying dynamic in movements of the left and right which try to exclude opposition by any and all means possible.   In the USA, we are protected by the marvelous First Amendment, but in the UK, for example, libel laws constantly hamper free speech because even if no infraction is committed, a person can be tied up in litigious expensive lawsuits by wealthy or influential &#8220;victims&#8221; supposedly slandered, even if what the &#8220;slander&#8221; says is true.   Ditto for France, where I worked and had to sit in court hearings as a Vice Consul.  France today is essentially an efficient fascist state where opposition is thwarted by a myriad of means by the government, ditto for Switzerland, the MOST efficient fascist state in the world, according to our American ambassador in my day!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

