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		<title>By: TheMagicalSkyFather</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/46671/obama-gets-the-missile-shield-question-right/comment-page-1/#comment-216044</link>
		<dc:creator>TheMagicalSkyFather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 23:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In those schools, at least in the 80&#039;s.  I saw that but not in any link to Russia nor the dreaded communism.  Just peace activists which are a mix of hippies and Quaker&#039;s with a little bit of everything else mixed in but they make up the vanguard of that movement.  The anti-nuclear movement is not near as strong as it used to be but the industry is much safer and three mile island a much more distant memory.  You can&#039;t lump those movements in with pro-Russia types of which I have yet to meet one and I am a russian history geek(big fan of Peter the Great!).  I am positive those people exist and pretty sure they are or do get involved in those movements but they are an infinitesimally small amount.  Probably similar to the royalists in or extreme authoritarians on the right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In those schools, at least in the 80&#39;s.  I saw that but not in any link to Russia nor the dreaded communism.  Just peace activists which are a mix of hippies and Quaker&#39;s with a little bit of everything else mixed in but they make up the vanguard of that movement.  The anti-nuclear movement is not near as strong as it used to be but the industry is much safer and three mile island a much more distant memory.  You can&#39;t lump those movements in with pro-Russia types of which I have yet to meet one and I am a russian history geek(big fan of Peter the Great!).  I am positive those people exist and pretty sure they are or do get involved in those movements but they are an infinitesimally small amount.  Probably similar to the royalists in or extreme authoritarians on the right.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 21:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;that its a great scifi idea that we are pouring money into without the bang for our buck needed&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s not merely science fiction.  (That&#039;s why the Russians began erecting a defense in the 1960s.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is it difficult?  Oh, yes.  &quot;Hitting a bullet with another bullet&quot; (hitting a bullet, moreover, which has decoys and active maneuvering during the terminal phase and other defense &quot;penetration aids&quot;) has always been difficult.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You probably remember the North Korea- and Iran-based threat study a few years ago:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(Great threat maps and maps that describe the problem of boost-phase interception)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(mid-course is a better approach, and may also need to rely on &quot;catcher&#039;s mitt&quot; terminal interception)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aps.org/about/pressreleases/upload/BPI_Executive_Summary_and_Findings.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.aps.org/about/pressreleases/upload/B...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[full report]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aps.org/about/pressreleases/upload/BPI_Executive_Summary_and_Findings.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.aps.org/about/pressreleases/upload/B...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[briefing slides]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ndu.edu/ctnsp/030814%2520NDU%2520Full%2520Briefing%2520Lamb.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.ndu.edu/ctnsp/030814%20NDU%20Full%20...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;that its a great scifi idea that we are pouring money into without the bang for our buck needed&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#39;s not merely science fiction.  (That&#39;s why the Russians began erecting a defense in the 1960s.)</p>
<p>Is it difficult?  Oh, yes.  &#8220;Hitting a bullet with another bullet&#8221; (hitting a bullet, moreover, which has decoys and active maneuvering during the terminal phase and other defense &#8220;penetration aids&#8221;) has always been difficult.</p>
<p>You probably remember the North Korea- and Iran-based threat study a few years ago:</p>
<p>(Great threat maps and maps that describe the problem of boost-phase interception)</p>
<p>(mid-course is a better approach, and may also need to rely on &#8220;catcher&#39;s mitt&#8221; terminal interception)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.aps.org/about/pressreleases/upload/BPI_Executive_Summary_and_Findings.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.aps.org/about/pressreleases/upload/B&#8230;</a></p>
<p>[full report]</p>
<p><a href="http://www.aps.org/about/pressreleases/upload/BPI_Executive_Summary_and_Findings.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.aps.org/about/pressreleases/upload/B&#8230;</a></p>
<p>[briefing slides]</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ndu.edu/ctnsp/030814%2520NDU%2520Full%2520Briefing%2520Lamb.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.ndu.edu/ctnsp/030814%20NDU%20Full%20&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 21:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the &#039;beloved USSR&#039; thing was good and dead by at the latest the 1950&#039;s early 60&#039;s and certainly did not carry over to the 80&#039;s in any large way&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It got augmented after the radicalization of liberalism in the 1960s here in the West, and obviously became florid in the 1980s after Reagan&#039;s election -- US-Western nuclear &quot;freeze,&quot; nuclear disarmament, bogus religious arguments against US-Western nukes, attacks on missile installations, &quot;peace&quot; marches, propaganda in the schools, and more.  Where else were you then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the &#39;beloved USSR&#39; thing was good and dead by at the latest the 1950&#39;s early 60&#39;s and certainly did not carry over to the 80&#39;s in any large way&#8221;</p>
<p>It got augmented after the radicalization of liberalism in the 1960s here in the West, and obviously became florid in the 1980s after Reagan&#39;s election &#8212; US-Western nuclear &#8220;freeze,&#8221; nuclear disarmament, bogus religious arguments against US-Western nukes, attacks on missile installations, &#8220;peace&#8221; marches, propaganda in the schools, and more.  Where else were you then?</p>
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		<title>By: TheMagicalSkyFather</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheMagicalSkyFather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most complaints I have seen against &quot;Star Wars&quot; dove tail with my own which is that its a great scifi idea that we are pouring money into without the bang for our buck needed.  I also think the &quot;beloved USSR&quot; thing was good and dead by at the latest the 1950&#039;s early 60&#039;s and certainly did not carry over to the 80&#039;s in any large way as the were basically financially bankrupt in the 70&#039;s and everyone knew what Stalin had done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most complaints I have seen against &#8220;Star Wars&#8221; dove tail with my own which is that its a great scifi idea that we are pouring money into without the bang for our buck needed.  I also think the &#8220;beloved USSR&#8221; thing was good and dead by at the latest the 1950&#39;s early 60&#39;s and certainly did not carry over to the 80&#39;s in any large way as the were basically financially bankrupt in the 70&#39;s and everyone knew what Stalin had done.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for those who neglected or failed to see it earlier:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The more subtle thing here is what is being sought instead, and if it is smart rather than a &quot;symbolic&quot; fluff gesture. Theater ballistic missiles are actually a greater threat in most anticipated future US conflicts than future missiles from Iran directed against Europe (such as the UK). Sea-based theater missile defense immediately makes you think of a likely conflict area, the Persian Gulf or Iran&#039;s nervous neighbors. (And in any conflict, Iran has already said, it&#039;ll destroy oil facilities of any neighbor who aids in attacks against Iran, for example.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for those who neglected or failed to see it earlier:</p>
<p>The more subtle thing here is what is being sought instead, and if it is smart rather than a &#8220;symbolic&#8221; fluff gesture. Theater ballistic missiles are actually a greater threat in most anticipated future US conflicts than future missiles from Iran directed against Europe (such as the UK). Sea-based theater missile defense immediately makes you think of a likely conflict area, the Persian Gulf or Iran&#39;s nervous neighbors. (And in any conflict, Iran has already said, it&#39;ll destroy oil facilities of any neighbor who aids in attacks against Iran, for example.)</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Does your beloved system even work?&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There is no system beloved by me.  [dusting hands]  Oh, does the current system work yet?   No.  That&#039;s not the point.  The point is that the concept obviously makes sense and it ought to be made to work, simply weighed against all the other things we&#039;re expecting our military and the rest of our federal government to do now and later, at the same time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Does your beloved system even work?&#8221;</p>
<p>There is no system beloved by me.  [dusting hands]  Oh, does the current system work yet?   No.  That&#39;s not the point.  The point is that the concept obviously makes sense and it ought to be made to work, simply weighed against all the other things we&#39;re expecting our military and the rest of our federal government to do now and later, at the same time.</p>
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		<title>By: shannonlee</title>
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		<dc:creator>shannonlee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 18:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neither the Czechs nor Poles need to worry about a Russian invasion.  Last I checked, they are part of the EU.  If anything, we basically are pulling money we don&#039;t have out of those countries.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now, considering that the real &quot;war&quot; on terror is in Pakistan/Afghanistan, I think Russian help in those areas would be more valuable than the fake projection of power in eastern europe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neither the Czechs nor Poles need to worry about a Russian invasion.  Last I checked, they are part of the EU.  If anything, we basically are pulling money we don&#39;t have out of those countries.  </p>
<p>Now, considering that the real &#8220;war&#8221; on terror is in Pakistan/Afghanistan, I think Russian help in those areas would be more valuable than the fake projection of power in eastern europe.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DLS - Does your beloved system even work? If it does work, what can it stop but a couple of missiles.The sea based Aegis system will work better than the land based Eastern European system. Are you saying your in favor of wasted pork in Poland?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DLS &#8211; Does your beloved system even work? If it does work, what can it stop but a couple of missiles.The sea based Aegis system will work better than the land based Eastern European system. Are you saying your in favor of wasted pork in Poland?</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There no doubt are pathological people who are overjoyed that any kind of Western (especially US) missile defense is being dismantled, and that we are retreating from Russia.  (The lessons to be learned across the Atlantic don&#039;t just involve Poland and the Czech Republic, but Georgia and Ukraine.)  There have been such pathological people fervently agitating against missile defense since the 1980s and the election of Evil Reagan, who confronted their beloved USSR.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The more subtle thing here is what is being sought instead, and if it is smart rather than a &quot;symbolic&quot; fluff gesture.  Theater ballistic missiles are actually a greater threat in most anticipated future US conflicts than future missiles from Iran directed against Europe (such as the UK).  Sea-based theater missile defense immediately makes you think of a likely conflict area, the Persian Gulf or Iran&#039;s nervous neighbors.  (And in any conflict, Iran has already said, it&#039;ll destroy oil facilities of any neighbor who aids in attacks against Iran, for example.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There no doubt are pathological people who are overjoyed that any kind of Western (especially US) missile defense is being dismantled, and that we are retreating from Russia.  (The lessons to be learned across the Atlantic don&#39;t just involve Poland and the Czech Republic, but Georgia and Ukraine.)  There have been such pathological people fervently agitating against missile defense since the 1980s and the election of Evil Reagan, who confronted their beloved USSR.</p>
<p>The more subtle thing here is what is being sought instead, and if it is smart rather than a &#8220;symbolic&#8221; fluff gesture.  Theater ballistic missiles are actually a greater threat in most anticipated future US conflicts than future missiles from Iran directed against Europe (such as the UK).  Sea-based theater missile defense immediately makes you think of a likely conflict area, the Persian Gulf or Iran&#39;s nervous neighbors.  (And in any conflict, Iran has already said, it&#39;ll destroy oil facilities of any neighbor who aids in attacks against Iran, for example.)</p>
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		<title>By: Below The Beltway &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Obama&#8217;s Missile Defense Decision: No, It&#8217;s Not Appeasement</title>
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		<dc:creator>Below The Beltway &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Obama&#8217;s Missile Defense Decision: No, It&#8217;s Not Appeasement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jazz Shaw makes a point that&#8217;s worth taking seriously: As much as some of my hawkish friends might wish it to be so, Russia isn’t going away any time [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jazz Shaw makes a point that&#8217;s worth taking seriously: As much as some of my hawkish friends might wish it to be so, Russia isn’t going away any time [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VEY9 The Aegis system is going to be used instead of the X-band based boondoggle&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.armscontrolwonk.com/2465/a-sensible-missile-defense-architecture-for-nato&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.armscontrolwonk.com/2465/a-sensible-...&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;...&lt;br&gt;Those who would say the decision was about Russia have it backwards — for exhibits A and B check the quotes in stories by WaPo’s Michael D. Shear and Ann Scott Tyson and the NYT’s Peter Baker and Nicholas Kulish.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Bush Administration placed a midcourse interceptor site and X-band radar within the former Warsaw Pact precisely to make a political point to the Russia, not because it provided the best defense. Aegis was always a better technical option.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Once the White House was no longer motivated to be churlish toward Moscow, that allowed technical considerations at the front of the debate. The fact that this may also open up a world of possibilities with Moscow (and I stress may) is nice, but is not the reason to put theater missile defenses into Europe. The reason is to give NATO allies a defense that works against a threat that exists.&lt;br&gt;...&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VEY9 The Aegis system is going to be used instead of the X-band based boondoggle<br /><a href="http://www.armscontrolwonk.com/2465/a-sensible-missile-defense-architecture-for-nato" rel="nofollow">http://www.armscontrolwonk.com/2465/a-sensible-&#8230;</a>.<br />
<blockquote>&#8230;<br />Those who would say the decision was about Russia have it backwards — for exhibits A and B check the quotes in stories by WaPo’s Michael D. Shear and Ann Scott Tyson and the NYT’s Peter Baker and Nicholas Kulish.</p>
<p>The Bush Administration placed a midcourse interceptor site and X-band radar within the former Warsaw Pact precisely to make a political point to the Russia, not because it provided the best defense. Aegis was always a better technical option.</p>
<p>Once the White House was no longer motivated to be churlish toward Moscow, that allowed technical considerations at the front of the debate. The fact that this may also open up a world of possibilities with Moscow (and I stress may) is nice, but is not the reason to put theater missile defenses into Europe. The reason is to give NATO allies a defense that works against a threat that exists.<br />&#8230;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 08:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have a big problem with the decision it has pluses and minuses, but there aren&#039;t enough minuses to make me object to it and there may be many other pluses that I&#039;m not aware of so I&#039;ll give the President the benefit of the doubt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t have a big problem with the decision it has pluses and minuses, but there aren&#39;t enough minuses to make me object to it and there may be many other pluses that I&#39;m not aware of so I&#39;ll give the President the benefit of the doubt.</p>
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		<title>By: deloresfromwarren</title>
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		<dc:creator>deloresfromwarren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 07:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a Polish-American, and once again, the Polish people have been screwed by the US. There are Polish soldiers fighting in Afghanistan along side the Brits and Americans, but I guess that doesn&#039;t matter to him. So, is Obama hanging Europeans out to dry?  I&#039;m not saying Obama is a racist but this action sure seems like it. I wonder if he would have done the same thing if the missiles were pointed at Kenya?  Meanwhile the International Atomic Energy Agency says Iran is almost ready to launch. This is contrary to what US intelligence has told Obama.  You know, the same CIA that he and Pelosi hung out to dry.  So, whose intelligence would you believe?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m a Polish-American, and once again, the Polish people have been screwed by the US. There are Polish soldiers fighting in Afghanistan along side the Brits and Americans, but I guess that doesn&#39;t matter to him. So, is Obama hanging Europeans out to dry?  I&#39;m not saying Obama is a racist but this action sure seems like it. I wonder if he would have done the same thing if the missiles were pointed at Kenya?  Meanwhile the International Atomic Energy Agency says Iran is almost ready to launch. This is contrary to what US intelligence has told Obama.  You know, the same CIA that he and Pelosi hung out to dry.  So, whose intelligence would you believe?</p>
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		<title>By: redbus</title>
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		<dc:creator>redbus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 05:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>President Obama showed some real wisdom on this. In an era of huge budget deficits, he found a way to save some money for once. I don&#039;t doubt, though, that the GOP will seize on this to paint the President and his party as somehow &quot;weak on defense.&quot; On the other hand, if they do, Jimmy Carter will call those comments &quot;racist&quot;, because it&#039;s a &lt;i&gt;black&lt;/i&gt; President who made this decision. And so it goes...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>President Obama showed some real wisdom on this. In an era of huge budget deficits, he found a way to save some money for once. I don&#39;t doubt, though, that the GOP will seize on this to paint the President and his party as somehow &#8220;weak on defense.&#8221; On the other hand, if they do, Jimmy Carter will call those comments &#8220;racist&#8221;, because it&#39;s a <i>black</i> President who made this decision. And so it goes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JeffersonDavis</title>
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		<dc:creator>JeffersonDavis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 01:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You beat me to that one, vey9.&lt;BR&gt;With the ship-based Aegis system and the ground-based Patriot system, the technology (basically the same in both cases to the Star Wars system) is more than proven itself.&lt;BR&gt;I have to agree that it does &quot;poke a stick in the side&quot; of many nations (Russia, et. al.). Like Bush, Obama is a &quot;one-world government&quot; type, only with Bush he wished to use NATO where Obama uses UN. &lt;BR&gt;Within the NATO framework, we were, indeed, working against the Russians. Under the UN framework, we need Russia for key issues.&lt;BR&gt;Take your pick. Both forms of world government stink - be it the militarily powerful NATO, or the diplomatically powerful UN.&lt;br&gt;Given the choice, I&#039;d rather be on top of the heap with Star Wars, than on an equal keel without it.&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You beat me to that one, vey9.<br />With the ship-based Aegis system and the ground-based Patriot system, the technology (basically the same in both cases to the Star Wars system) is more than proven itself.<br />I have to agree that it does &#8220;poke a stick in the side&#8221; of many nations (Russia, et. al.). Like Bush, Obama is a &#8220;one-world government&#8221; type, only with Bush he wished to use NATO where Obama uses UN. <br />Within the NATO framework, we were, indeed, working against the Russians. Under the UN framework, we need Russia for key issues.<br />Take your pick. Both forms of world government stink &#8211; be it the militarily powerful NATO, or the diplomatically powerful UN.<br />Given the choice, I&#39;d rather be on top of the heap with Star Wars, than on an equal keel without it.</p>
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		<title>By: vey9</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/46671/obama-gets-the-missile-shield-question-right/comment-page-1/#comment-215394</link>
		<dc:creator>vey9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 00:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The US does actually have a missile defense system in place. It is based upon Aegis combat system which is found upon the Arleigh Burke class guided missile destroyers. What would that do for Poland or the Czech Republic? Not much. But it would work pretty well for the continental US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The US does actually have a missile defense system in place. It is based upon Aegis combat system which is found upon the Arleigh Burke class guided missile destroyers. What would that do for Poland or the Czech Republic? Not much. But it would work pretty well for the continental US.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Beasley</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/46671/obama-gets-the-missile-shield-question-right/comment-page-1/#comment-215390</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Beasley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 00:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was never anything but defense industry pork and the last time I looked pigs still can&#039;t fly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was never anything but defense industry pork and the last time I looked pigs still can&#39;t fly.</p>
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