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	<title>Comments on: Your Tax Dollars at Work: Joe Wilson&#8217;s Censure</title>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/46404/your-tax-dollars-at-work-joe-wilsons-censure/comment-page-1/#comment-215044</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The overreaction to Wilson by lefties (including on this site) was actually worse than the already-bad behavior by the Dems in Congress.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;At least the text of the censure resolution wasn&#039;t out of the ordinary, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The overreaction to Wilson by lefties (including on this site) was actually worse than the already-bad behavior by the Dems in Congress.</p>
<p>At least the text of the censure resolution wasn&#39;t out of the ordinary, too.</p>
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		<title>By: ElZagna</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/46404/your-tax-dollars-at-work-joe-wilsons-censure/comment-page-1/#comment-214964</link>
		<dc:creator>ElZagna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you know that? I&#039;ll ask again - is there any substantive basis for your claim? If so, what is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you know that? I&#39;ll ask again &#8211; is there any substantive basis for your claim? If so, what is it?</p>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/46404/your-tax-dollars-at-work-joe-wilsons-censure/comment-page-1/#comment-214932</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 18:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; This should be titled the &quot;Joe Wilson Re-election Assurance Act&quot;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;d vote for the South Carolina District 2 Economic Prosperity Act.  With all the money pouring in from other parts of the country to both Wilson and his opponent it should be a good boost to the economy of his district.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> This should be titled the &#8220;Joe Wilson Re-election Assurance Act&#8221;.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#39;d vote for the South Carolina District 2 Economic Prosperity Act.  With all the money pouring in from other parts of the country to both Wilson and his opponent it should be a good boost to the economy of his district.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/46404/your-tax-dollars-at-work-joe-wilsons-censure/comment-page-1/#comment-214931</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 18:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh puuuuulease!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If Nancy put her foot down the others wouldn;t have done anything other than mouth off to the press.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh puuuuulease!</p>
<p>If Nancy put her foot down the others wouldn;t have done anything other than mouth off to the press.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisWWW</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/46404/your-tax-dollars-at-work-joe-wilsons-censure/comment-page-1/#comment-214886</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisWWW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 15:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think the reprimand is a big deal, and I would have rather the Democrats not done it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However! The Republicans deserve some public shaming, and they would certainly have raised an even bigger stink if the tables were turned. Remember how Republicans moved Congress to immediately act against MoveOn because of the Betray-us ads?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t think the reprimand is a big deal, and I would have rather the Democrats not done it.</p>
<p>However! The Republicans deserve some public shaming, and they would certainly have raised an even bigger stink if the tables were turned. Remember how Republicans moved Congress to immediately act against MoveOn because of the Betray-us ads?</p>
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		<title>By: ElZagna</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/46404/your-tax-dollars-at-work-joe-wilsons-censure/comment-page-1/#comment-214852</link>
		<dc:creator>ElZagna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I certainly see the rational behind the pro-reprimand comments, I just don&#039;t see this playing out well. Moderate Republicans may very well be disgusted at Wilson&#039;s outburst, but, really, what influence do moderate Republican&#039;s have these days. At this moment in history the party seems to be run by Rush Limbaugh and Fox News, and more recently, by Tea-Bag crazies, and Joe Wilson will become their darling. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What I would like to have seen would be for Pelosi in the House and Reed in the Senate to make very strong statements before the next Presidential address about what the expected decorum is, and remind their members that this is an address from President of the United States to Congress and not some town hall meeting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I certainly see the rational behind the pro-reprimand comments, I just don&#39;t see this playing out well. Moderate Republicans may very well be disgusted at Wilson&#39;s outburst, but, really, what influence do moderate Republican&#39;s have these days. At this moment in history the party seems to be run by Rush Limbaugh and Fox News, and more recently, by Tea-Bag crazies, and Joe Wilson will become their darling. </p>
<p>What I would like to have seen would be for Pelosi in the House and Reed in the Senate to make very strong statements before the next Presidential address about what the expected decorum is, and remind their members that this is an address from President of the United States to Congress and not some town hall meeting.</p>
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		<title>By: Silhouette</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/46404/your-tax-dollars-at-work-joe-wilsons-censure/comment-page-1/#comment-214807</link>
		<dc:creator>Silhouette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 05:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Governor Ed Rendell of Pennsylvania decides his state wants Holiday revenues on the Rachel Maddow show.  Thanks again to Mr. Wilson for inspiring the public to act.  See the seal of the great State of Pennsylvania next to Colorado&#039;s placeofnopity dot com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Governor Ed Rendell of Pennsylvania decides his state wants Holiday revenues on the Rachel Maddow show.  Thanks again to Mr. Wilson for inspiring the public to act.  See the seal of the great State of Pennsylvania next to Colorado&#39;s placeofnopity dot com.</p>
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		<title>By: archangel</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/46404/your-tax-dollars-at-work-joe-wilsons-censure/comment-page-1/#comment-214806</link>
		<dc:creator>archangel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 04:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the people we dont see are the moderate repubs who are watching the day by day carpet bombing with &#039;friendly fire&#039; of their own party. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Certainly those who dislike Obama/Dems/etc., may vote for Wilson in the coming election. But chances are Wilson will lose some of his appointments in the House before the election even takes place. This will hobble his ability to shovel pork. His constituency will note this.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think the light censure is, as Green Dreams says,  a bit of a bulwark. Wilson is unlikely to be trusted ever again by those in his own party, who easily enough made a &#039;he&#039;s in our family&#039; vote today. But, each politician who voted that way, likely did so because their constituency supported that vote, not because they believe Joe Wilson is just fine. And they will conduct themselves in the future as solidifies their own positions, not Joe Wilson&#039;s.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;just my .02&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;From what I hear personally from moderate Repubs, they&#039;re not taken aback, they are angry at Wilson for splattering all GOP with his crack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the people we dont see are the moderate repubs who are watching the day by day carpet bombing with &#39;friendly fire&#39; of their own party. </p>
<p>Certainly those who dislike Obama/Dems/etc., may vote for Wilson in the coming election. But chances are Wilson will lose some of his appointments in the House before the election even takes place. This will hobble his ability to shovel pork. His constituency will note this.</p>
<p>I think the light censure is, as Green Dreams says,  a bit of a bulwark. Wilson is unlikely to be trusted ever again by those in his own party, who easily enough made a &#39;he&#39;s in our family&#39; vote today. But, each politician who voted that way, likely did so because their constituency supported that vote, not because they believe Joe Wilson is just fine. And they will conduct themselves in the future as solidifies their own positions, not Joe Wilson&#39;s.</p>
<p>just my .02</p>
<p>From what I hear personally from moderate Repubs, they&#39;re not taken aback, they are angry at Wilson for splattering all GOP with his crack.</p>
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		<title>By: imavettoo</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/46404/your-tax-dollars-at-work-joe-wilsons-censure/comment-page-1/#comment-214804</link>
		<dc:creator>imavettoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 04:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Had the Democrats taken the high road as Obama and Pelosi wanted&quot;, Joe Wilson, or some other redneck would have felt it alright to scream the same thing with &quot;boy&quot; added to the end at the SOTU in January.  This crap has got to stop somewhere!  Wilson&#039;s own wife couldn&#039;t believe her old man had been such a cretin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Had the Democrats taken the high road as Obama and Pelosi wanted&#8221;, Joe Wilson, or some other redneck would have felt it alright to scream the same thing with &#8220;boy&#8221; added to the end at the SOTU in January.  This crap has got to stop somewhere!  Wilson&#39;s own wife couldn&#39;t believe her old man had been such a cretin.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/46404/your-tax-dollars-at-work-joe-wilsons-censure/comment-page-1/#comment-214798</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 04:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who cares? There are rules of conduct and some in the House wanted there to be a consequence, however mild, of a breach of those rules. Maybe it will prevent future outbursts. Otherwise, the rule is &quot;mouth off and trash civility and protocol, then apologize and all is forgiven.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who cares? There are rules of conduct and some in the House wanted there to be a consequence, however mild, of a breach of those rules. Maybe it will prevent future outbursts. Otherwise, the rule is &#8220;mouth off and trash civility and protocol, then apologize and all is forgiven.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ElZagna</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/46404/your-tax-dollars-at-work-joe-wilsons-censure/comment-page-1/#comment-214797</link>
		<dc:creator>ElZagna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 04:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am astonished and disappointed that the Dems went through with the reprimand. Beyond being a waste of time and a distraction in the middle of one of the most important issues of our time, it is political idiocy. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Had the Democrats taken the high road as Obama and Pelosi wanted, Joe Wilson would be seen as a boor and promptly forgotten, but now they&#039;ve made him a martyr, and we&#039;ll be seeing him on every Fox program until a health care bill is passed (or not), at which point he will be tossed out like yesterday&#039;s news (appropriately enough).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have to wonder what the Dems hoped to gain from this vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am astonished and disappointed that the Dems went through with the reprimand. Beyond being a waste of time and a distraction in the middle of one of the most important issues of our time, it is political idiocy. </p>
<p>Had the Democrats taken the high road as Obama and Pelosi wanted, Joe Wilson would be seen as a boor and promptly forgotten, but now they&#39;ve made him a martyr, and we&#39;ll be seeing him on every Fox program until a health care bill is passed (or not), at which point he will be tossed out like yesterday&#39;s news (appropriately enough).</p>
<p>I have to wonder what the Dems hoped to gain from this vote.</p>
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		<title>By: ElZagna</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/46404/your-tax-dollars-at-work-joe-wilsons-censure/comment-page-1/#comment-214793</link>
		<dc:creator>ElZagna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 03:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Queen Nancy just had to show Obama who is in charge, just because the President accepted Wilson&#039;s apology doesn&#039;t mean its good enough for her highness.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Other than your obvious contempt for Nancy Pelosi, do you have any basis for this statement? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For those of us who have actually been following this story, it is apparent that Pelosi wanted to drop the issue, but was forced to go along with other members of her party. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;From the &lt;a linkindex=&quot;300&quot; href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2009/09/15/ST2009091501027.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Washington Post&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;A vote (to reprimand Rep.Joe Wilson) would reverse the initial sentiment voiced by the president and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) that it was time to &quot;move on&quot; to the debate on health-care. But the White House and Pelosi yielded to senior black Democrats, led by House Majority Whip James E. Clyburn (D-S.C.), and other members of the leadership team, who argued that Wilson&#039;s remark was a breach of conduct that must not be tolerated. &quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Queen Nancy just had to show Obama who is in charge, just because the President accepted Wilson&#39;s apology doesn&#39;t mean its good enough for her highness.</i></p>
<p>Other than your obvious contempt for Nancy Pelosi, do you have any basis for this statement? </p>
<p>For those of us who have actually been following this story, it is apparent that Pelosi wanted to drop the issue, but was forced to go along with other members of her party. </p>
<p>From the <a linkindex="300" href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2009/09/15/ST2009091501027.html" rel="nofollow">Washington Post</a>:<br /><i>&#8220;A vote (to reprimand Rep.Joe Wilson) would reverse the initial sentiment voiced by the president and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) that it was time to &#8220;move on&#8221; to the debate on health-care. But the White House and Pelosi yielded to senior black Democrats, led by House Majority Whip James E. Clyburn (D-S.C.), and other members of the leadership team, who argued that Wilson&#39;s remark was a breach of conduct that must not be tolerated. &#8220;<br /></i></p>
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		<title>By: DaGoat</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/46404/your-tax-dollars-at-work-joe-wilsons-censure/comment-page-1/#comment-214777</link>
		<dc:creator>DaGoat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 03:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This should be titled the &quot;Joe Wilson Re-election Assurance Act&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This should be titled the &#8220;Joe Wilson Re-election Assurance Act&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Silhouette</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/46404/your-tax-dollars-at-work-joe-wilsons-censure/comment-page-1/#comment-214776</link>
		<dc:creator>Silhouette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 02:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;resolution of disapproval&quot;&lt;br&gt;*****&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A congressman gives the world a public display of divisiveness in the one forum where our issues are put aside and we are the United States of America, and he gets a slap from a wet noodle.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We have something else in mind.  Boycott South Carolina online when shopping this holiday season.  Just don&#039;t buy anything at all from that state until a heartfelt and sincere public apology is issued.  If you&#039;re in approval of what he did, then by all means, buy from there.  If you aren&#039;t don&#039;t.  We&#039;ll let the numbers figure out how harsh of a reprimand that is.  Can&#039;t be all that bad, the GOP says they have overwhelming support.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We&#039;ll see...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;resolution of disapproval&#8221;<br />*****</p>
<p>A congressman gives the world a public display of divisiveness in the one forum where our issues are put aside and we are the United States of America, and he gets a slap from a wet noodle.</p>
<p>We have something else in mind.  Boycott South Carolina online when shopping this holiday season.  Just don&#39;t buy anything at all from that state until a heartfelt and sincere public apology is issued.  If you&#39;re in approval of what he did, then by all means, buy from there.  If you aren&#39;t don&#39;t.  We&#39;ll let the numbers figure out how harsh of a reprimand that is.  Can&#39;t be all that bad, the GOP says they have overwhelming support.  </p>
<p>We&#39;ll see&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 02:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Queen Nancy just had to show Obama who is in charge, just because the President accepted Wilson&#039;s apology doesn&#039;t mean its good enough for her highness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Queen Nancy just had to show Obama who is in charge, just because the President accepted Wilson&#39;s apology doesn&#39;t mean its good enough for her highness.</p>
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