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		<title>By: alphonsegaston</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/46370/the-goddess-of-right-wing-ideology/comment-page-1/#comment-215174</link>
		<dc:creator>alphonsegaston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 07:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ayn Rand was a loon. When students asked me how to pronounce her name, my serious reply was &quot;Hind End.&quot;  One of my office mates at university was stalked by a devout follower of H.E. who was writing his own novel influenced by his heroine.  My friend had to call on her husband, an instructror in the medical school, to run him off.  He always showed up around the office in a brown suit, shirt and tie--no doubt a manifestation of his elite status.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ah, memories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ayn Rand was a loon. When students asked me how to pronounce her name, my serious reply was &#8220;Hind End.&#8221;  One of my office mates at university was stalked by a devout follower of H.E. who was writing his own novel influenced by his heroine.  My friend had to call on her husband, an instructror in the medical school, to run him off.  He always showed up around the office in a brown suit, shirt and tie&#8211;no doubt a manifestation of his elite status.</p>
<p>Ah, memories.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Ayn Rand is to blame for &quot;tea parties&quot; (counselling sessions) and all &quot;artificial&quot; opposition to health care reform. Happy now?&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Probably &quot;artificial, racist opposition&quot; should be the claim, if we want to be truly up-to-date.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ayn Rand is to blame for &#8220;tea parties&#8221; (counselling sessions) and all &#8220;artificial&#8221; opposition to health care reform. Happy now?&#8221;</p>
<p>Probably &#8220;artificial, racist opposition&#8221; should be the claim, if we want to be truly up-to-date.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can explain it, but if someone cannot or will not understand...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can explain it, but if someone cannot or will not understand&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kathykattenburg</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/46370/the-goddess-of-right-wing-ideology/comment-page-1/#comment-214925</link>
		<dc:creator>kathykattenburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 18:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh?</p>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/46370/the-goddess-of-right-wing-ideology/comment-page-1/#comment-214915</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 18:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; DaGoat, her &quot;personal shortcomings&quot; -- if by that you mean her increasingly odd and totalitarian behavior toward her followers -- and the extremeness -- lunacy, really -- of her philosophy are connected. In addition, Chait did not rely solely on her personal shortcomings to discredit her theories. Among other things, on the third page, he does a meticulous and detailed analysis of her ideas in and of themselves.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I should introduce you to a friend of mine who denounces planned parenthood due to its founder Margaret Sanger being a eugenicist.  You seem to share some similar perspectives, just on opposite ends.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;P.S.  I laugh at him when he does this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> DaGoat, her &#8220;personal shortcomings&#8221; &#8212; if by that you mean her increasingly odd and totalitarian behavior toward her followers &#8212; and the extremeness &#8212; lunacy, really &#8212; of her philosophy are connected. In addition, Chait did not rely solely on her personal shortcomings to discredit her theories. Among other things, on the third page, he does a meticulous and detailed analysis of her ideas in and of themselves.</p></blockquote>
<p>I should introduce you to a friend of mine who denounces planned parenthood due to its founder Margaret Sanger being a eugenicist.  You seem to share some similar perspectives, just on opposite ends.</p>
<p>P.S.  I laugh at him when he does this.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; Leonidas, did you read the entire piece? And in the quote you mention, did you notice the adjective &quot;personal&quot;?&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes and yes and I still find the title inappropriate. It would be like calling Keynes the God of left wing ideology.  Although influential, Keynes is hardly a god to liberals (excepting maybe a few examples like Paul Krugman).&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> Leonidas, did you read the entire piece? And in the quote you mention, did you notice the adjective &#8220;personal&#8221;?</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes and yes and I still find the title inappropriate. It would be like calling Keynes the God of left wing ideology.  Although influential, Keynes is hardly a god to liberals (excepting maybe a few examples like Paul Krugman).</p>
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		<title>By: T-Steel</title>
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		<dc:creator>T-Steel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah!  Enlightened self-interest.  I&#039;ll drink to that.  Well it&#039;s to early for a &quot;drink&quot; so my coffee mug is lifted in salute.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Although there is a fine line at times between selfishness and self-interest.  And sometimes it&#039;s a matter of perspective as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah!  Enlightened self-interest.  I&#39;ll drink to that.  Well it&#39;s to early for a &#8220;drink&#8221; so my coffee mug is lifted in salute.</p>
<p>Although there is a fine line at times between selfishness and self-interest.  And sometimes it&#39;s a matter of perspective as well.</p>
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		<title>By: TheMagicalSkyFather</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheMagicalSkyFather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 13:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just dislike Ayn Rand because first off Anton Lavey did it first and better.  The other reason is that her books are basically soap opera/romance novels that I have to listen to libertarians go on about while keeping a straight face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just dislike Ayn Rand because first off Anton Lavey did it first and better.  The other reason is that her books are basically soap opera/romance novels that I have to listen to libertarians go on about while keeping a straight face.</p>
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		<title>By: kathykattenburg</title>
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		<dc:creator>kathykattenburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 04:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your thanks, GD. Good for the morale. :-)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It occurred to me just now when I read your second sentence, about the Rand idea of &quot;the virtue of selfishness&quot; that it sounds just like the evil twin of &quot;enlightened self-interest.&quot; Selfishness is not a virtue, but enlightened self-interest is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your thanks, GD. Good for the morale. <img src='http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>It occurred to me just now when I read your second sentence, about the Rand idea of &#8220;the virtue of selfishness&#8221; that it sounds just like the evil twin of &#8220;enlightened self-interest.&#8221; Selfishness is not a virtue, but enlightened self-interest is.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 04:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your post Kathy. I&#039;ve often used &quot;the virtue of selfishness&quot; to describe Republican thought, and it&#039;s all over the right leaning comments here at TMV. They heap derision on anything that is seen as a potential damper on unfettered corporate greed and unthinking mass consumerism. &quot;Income redistribution&quot; is held up as the world&#039;s greatest evil, as if income redistribution toward the wealthy has not been exactly our path for the last 30 years, at least. And conservation, caring for the resource needs of future generations or any thought of treating all Americans as if they&#039;re valued team members is blasted as &quot;childish&quot; or worse.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sad state of affairs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your post Kathy. I&#39;ve often used &#8220;the virtue of selfishness&#8221; to describe Republican thought, and it&#39;s all over the right leaning comments here at TMV. They heap derision on anything that is seen as a potential damper on unfettered corporate greed and unthinking mass consumerism. &#8220;Income redistribution&#8221; is held up as the world&#39;s greatest evil, as if income redistribution toward the wealthy has not been exactly our path for the last 30 years, at least. And conservation, caring for the resource needs of future generations or any thought of treating all Americans as if they&#39;re valued team members is blasted as &#8220;childish&#8221; or worse.</p>
<p>Sad state of affairs.</p>
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		<title>By: kathykattenburg</title>
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		<dc:creator>kathykattenburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 03:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disagreement and unfairness, dishonesty, etc., are not the same thing. You seem to be conflating the two. There are a number of writers and commenters here with whom I frequently disagree but don&#039;t think are dishonest, ignorant, etc. Disagreement is not ignorance; ignorance is ignorance. Not that I&#039;ve used the word ignorant to characterize any of the writers or commenters here.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Political discussions can get heated sometimes, and I certainly can point to individuals who have told me in various ways that I am misguided, don&#039;t know what I&#039;m talking about, dishonest, brainwashed, etc., etc., etc. I don&#039;t usually take offense at words like that because I can give back as good as I get. The only time I get truly offended or upset is when something genuinely cruel and obviously intended to hurt me is said, or something blatantly, demonstrably untrue is said to me -- iow, when the other party clearly intends the insult personally -- and that has never happened in public comments, that I can recall at least. I don&#039;t think I have ever treated anyone here that way, either, but if I am mistaken I&#039;d like to know about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disagreement and unfairness, dishonesty, etc., are not the same thing. You seem to be conflating the two. There are a number of writers and commenters here with whom I frequently disagree but don&#39;t think are dishonest, ignorant, etc. Disagreement is not ignorance; ignorance is ignorance. Not that I&#39;ve used the word ignorant to characterize any of the writers or commenters here.</p>
<p>Political discussions can get heated sometimes, and I certainly can point to individuals who have told me in various ways that I am misguided, don&#39;t know what I&#39;m talking about, dishonest, brainwashed, etc., etc., etc. I don&#39;t usually take offense at words like that because I can give back as good as I get. The only time I get truly offended or upset is when something genuinely cruel and obviously intended to hurt me is said, or something blatantly, demonstrably untrue is said to me &#8212; iow, when the other party clearly intends the insult personally &#8212; and that has never happened in public comments, that I can recall at least. I don&#39;t think I have ever treated anyone here that way, either, but if I am mistaken I&#39;d like to know about it.</p>
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		<title>By: pacatrue</title>
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		<dc:creator>pacatrue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 03:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you ever simply disagree with someone, or are is the other person always unfair, dishonest, misguided, ignorant, or the like? You and I have about a 70/30 agreement ratio, but I don&#039;t think the 30% disagreement is because you are unfair, dishonest, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you ever simply disagree with someone, or are is the other person always unfair, dishonest, misguided, ignorant, or the like? You and I have about a 70/30 agreement ratio, but I don&#39;t think the 30% disagreement is because you are unfair, dishonest, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: kathykattenburg</title>
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		<dc:creator>kathykattenburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 02:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DaGoat, her &quot;personal shortcomings&quot; -- if by that you mean her increasingly odd and totalitarian behavior toward her followers -- and the extremeness -- lunacy, really -- of her philosophy are connected. In addition, Chait did not rely solely on her personal shortcomings to discredit her theories. Among other things, on the third page, he does a meticulous and detailed analysis of her ideas in and of themselves.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Your analysis itself is unfair and dishonest, in my view. The only point you make that is accurate is that the piece is more of a critique (or an article, or an essay) than a review. That&#039;s true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DaGoat, her &#8220;personal shortcomings&#8221; &#8212; if by that you mean her increasingly odd and totalitarian behavior toward her followers &#8212; and the extremeness &#8212; lunacy, really &#8212; of her philosophy are connected. In addition, Chait did not rely solely on her personal shortcomings to discredit her theories. Among other things, on the third page, he does a meticulous and detailed analysis of her ideas in and of themselves.</p>
<p>Your analysis itself is unfair and dishonest, in my view. The only point you make that is accurate is that the piece is more of a critique (or an article, or an essay) than a review. That&#39;s true.</p>
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		<title>By: kathykattenburg</title>
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		<dc:creator>kathykattenburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 02:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leonidas, did you read the entire piece? And in the quote you mention, did you notice the adjective &quot;personal&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leonidas, did you read the entire piece? And in the quote you mention, did you notice the adjective &#8220;personal&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: kathykattenburg</title>
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		<dc:creator>kathykattenburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 02:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, DLS. I can always count on you for substantive, razor-sharp, thoughtful and intelligent commentary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, DLS. I can always count on you for substantive, razor-sharp, thoughtful and intelligent commentary.</p>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention The Goddess of Right-Wing Ideology &#124; The Moderate Voice -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<title>By: T-Steel</title>
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		<dc:creator>T-Steel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 01:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1.  Go to &lt;a href=&quot;http://disqus.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://disqus.com&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;2.  Log in (if not already logged in).&lt;br&gt;3.  Click &quot;Edit Account&quot;.&lt;br&gt;4.  Click &quot;Disqus Profile&quot;.&lt;br&gt;5.  Click &quot;Information&quot;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There you can change your display name.  :-)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I read Atlas Shrugged.  Gave me a headache so I read &quot;Rendezvous With Rama&quot; instead.  Bless you Mr. Clarke!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.  Go to <a href="http://disqus.com" rel="nofollow">http://disqus.com</a>.<br />2.  Log in (if not already logged in).<br />3.  Click &#8220;Edit Account&#8221;.<br />4.  Click &#8220;Disqus Profile&#8221;.<br />5.  Click &#8220;Information&#8221;.</p>
<p>There you can change your display name.  <img src='http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I read Atlas Shrugged.  Gave me a headache so I read &#8220;Rendezvous With Rama&#8221; instead.  Bless you Mr. Clarke!</p>
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		<title>By: DaGoat</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaGoat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 00:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read Chait&#039;s article this morning and it&#039;s really more of a critique of Rand than a book review.  He seemed to use her personal shortcomings to discredit her theories, something which is intellectually dishonest.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On her theories though, just like any other philosophies they tend to fall apart when taken to extremes, and Atlas Shrugged was extreme. Rand admitted that herself.  I think objectivism is most useful as just one tool in your philosophic toolbox rather than a strict guide, and I think that&#039;s the way most conservatives and libertarians regard it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read Chait&#39;s article this morning and it&#39;s really more of a critique of Rand than a book review.  He seemed to use her personal shortcomings to discredit her theories, something which is intellectually dishonest.</p>
<p>On her theories though, just like any other philosophies they tend to fall apart when taken to extremes, and Atlas Shrugged was extreme. Rand admitted that herself.  I think objectivism is most useful as just one tool in your philosophic toolbox rather than a strict guide, and I think that&#39;s the way most conservatives and libertarians regard it.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 23:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kinda funny that your title calls Rand &quot;the Goddess of Right-Wing ideology&quot; then your quoted section insists the opposite &quot; he herself never won sustained personal influence within mainstream conservatism or the Republican Party&quot;.  Its as if you chose to ignore what the piece said and insert your own label.  Not a very good effort in title selection seems to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kinda funny that your title calls Rand &#8220;the Goddess of Right-Wing ideology&#8221; then your quoted section insists the opposite &#8221; he herself never won sustained personal influence within mainstream conservatism or the Republican Party&#8221;.  Its as if you chose to ignore what the piece said and insert your own label.  Not a very good effort in title selection seems to me.</p>
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		<title>By: tidbits</title>
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		<dc:creator>tidbits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 23:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, here you go DLS.   Ayn Rand is to blame for &quot;tea parties&quot; (counselling sessions) and all &quot;artificial&quot; opposition to health care reform.  Happy now?  :)  She is also responsible for Goldwater&#039;s defeat (he wouldn&#039;t take her on as an advisor - true) and Lincoln&#039;s assassination, not to mention World War II (she opposed US intervention - true) and the invention of the hoola hoop.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now if you will excuse my blurry eyes...yes I read the entire link...I must go find an intellectual equal with whom to procreate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, here you go DLS.   Ayn Rand is to blame for &#8220;tea parties&#8221; (counselling sessions) and all &#8220;artificial&#8221; opposition to health care reform.  Happy now?  <img src='http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   She is also responsible for Goldwater&#39;s defeat (he wouldn&#39;t take her on as an advisor &#8211; true) and Lincoln&#39;s assassination, not to mention World War II (she opposed US intervention &#8211; true) and the invention of the hoola hoop.</p>
<p>Now if you will excuse my blurry eyes&#8230;yes I read the entire link&#8230;I must go find an intellectual equal with whom to procreate.</p>
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