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Joe Wilson Has His Activist Fans

And some visit his office to congratulate him for calling breaking traditional and shouting out and calling a President delivering an address to a joint session of Congress a liar.



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15 Responses to “Joe Wilson Has His Activist Fans”

  1. Leonidas says:

    Actually its not the first time something like this happened.

    Flashback:

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0909/…

    Joe Wilson's 15 minutes of infamy notwithstanding, Democrats were pretty rough on George W. Bush during a joint sessions a few years back.

    Two examples:

    In 2004, Democrats delivered a “Chorus Of Boos” during Bush's Bush’s State Of The Union when he called for renewal of the Patriot Act., according to the Washington Times.

    In 2005, Dems howled, hissed and shouted “No!” when Bush pushed for Social Security reform in the SOU: “Foreshadowing the contentiousness of the coming debate, Democrats broke decorum and booed twice,” according to the National Journal.

    At the time, CNN's Bill Schneider remarked, “It was unusual. I had never heard it at least at that level before. The Democrats clearly were booing, heckling, saying no when the president talked about the crisis in Social Security.”

    Moreover, Obama's claim that illegal immigrants won't be covered — which sparked Wilson's outburst — while technically accurate, doesn't quite tell the entire story. Some of the bills being considered in the House and Senate contain provisions locking in local statutes that prevent providers from inquiring about immigration status prior to treatment. And illegals are treated, and are bound to be treated, in ERs, covered by local, state and federal uninsured pools.

    So why the outcry over Wilson?

    I think it's because Congressional Republicans have used the health care debate to vent a deeper, uglier contempt for Obama that verges on the personal.

    They've done little to discourage the party's fringes from questioning Obama's legitimacy to serve through the birther movement, fitness to govern through the death panel canard — and even the territorial integrity of the US under a Democratic president through Texas Gov. Rick Perry's flirtation with secession.

    Anger may stoke the base at town halls — and goose Glenn Beck — but it just looks ugly on the national stage.

    BTW Joe this is the 12th thread on the speech and the 4th with Joe Wilson in the title.

  2. SteveK says:

    It appears there are those in the GOP's Southern Strategy wing of the south that don't mind throwing the “Southern Gentleman” image under the bus. I for one think that's a shame but it's their party and their part of the country and it appears that the majority of respondents to a poll in Joe Wilson's hometown newspaper think it's a shame, too. h/t Leonidas

  3. D. E.Rodriguez says:

    “BTW Joe this is the 12th thread on the speech and the 4th with Joe Wilson in the title.”

    You know what gets really tiresome?

    The, “well, they did it, too” whining.

  4. TheMagicalSkyFather says:

    Its really nice that someone took the time to lie a little and count every story about Wilson and the Health care speech, I had missed Fox today so its nice to keep up on their talking points and looky I am learning to count as well.

  5. DLS says:

    “So why the outcry over Wilson?”

    Childishness as well as desperation among those looking for scapegoats and more in defense of their own failing health care effort.

    The Nation's founder: “OUTRAGE!” [snicker] At least she was halfway coherent and said that Obama's speech was good in some ways, while not good (extremist and activist) enough in others on behalf of “single-payer.”

  6. rfyork says:

    Many years ago I was at Naval Officer Candidate School. I remember, quite vividly, being told repeatedly that we salute the rank, not the man.

    Over the last 20 years, political discourse, particularly (but not exclusively) on the right has become truly vicious and utterly Un-American.

    I do wish someone would find a way to tone the whole thing down. We're not quite at 1800 levels (pace Jefferson) but, we're getting there.

    It is precisely this kind of stuff that turns off even politically active people like me. One can have strong opinions and still express them in a civil and respectful way.

  7. Father_Time says:

    Republicans cannot justify screaming out LIAR with BS with saying the Democrats booed Bush.

    Republicans cannot justify screaming out LIAR with BS about local ordinances.

    why?

    The republicans Booed before the SCREAM OUT of LIAR.

    Federal Law NEGATES ORDINANCES AND STATE LAW.

    Republicans cannot SPIN this DISRESPECT FOR THE OFFICE OF PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES into some tit for tat 6th grade childish argument!

    MORE THAN AN APOLOGY WITH NO FACE IS REQUIRED! JOE WILSON MUST APOLOGIZE TO THE NATION ON TELEVISION! Our it is meaningless.

  8. Civil_Voice says:

    Disrespect is disrespect, no matter which side it comes from.

  9. Leonidas says:

    Yup agreed, it was no better nor worse then when Harry Reid called Bush a liar on Meet the Press.

  10. SteveK says:

    Yup agreed, it was no better nor worse then when Harry Reid called Bush a liar on Meet the Press.

    Considering the time you spend passing yourself off as some sort of expert in political affairs your ignorance of congressional protocol is quite telling… and time saving.

  11. Civil_Voice says:

    So, are you suggesting that there are times when it is acceptible to disrespect the office of the President of the United States?
    Or do you just have a bug in your rear for Leonidas? Because you'd have saved more time by not responding.
    I don't think there is ever a time when disrespect for the President is acceptible.

  12. Leonidas says:

    “So why the outcry over Wilson?”

    Because Nancy Pelosi can't get enough Democratic votes to pass HR 3200. plain and simple.

  13. DLS says:

    I wonder at this point how much clout the lib Dems in the House have retained, now that Obama has spoken in defense of the public option (in addition to advocating a separate prompt federal expansion).

    The question now is if HR 3200 will be infused with some sanity by the adults in the Senate, or the Baucus bill in the Senate will be placed at the risk of the kiddle lib Dems in the House to “improve.”

    Yes, there is legislation other than HR 3200, even though Obama himself as well as the yammering crowd has fixated on the House bil. Many may not know that; it took a long time after I made multiple references to the caning in the Senate, and then Elrod created a thread on the subject, for anyone on the Left to demonstrate knowledge of the event, and some lefty responses indicated they didn't know about this well-known event before. What else don't they know? No wonder there was so much emotive fluff and many misstatements in Obama's speech along with a tiny number of actual position elements.

  14. Leonidas says:

    Yup agreed, it was no better nor worse then when Harry Reid called Bush a liar on Meet the Press.

    Considering the time you spend passing yourself off as some sort of expert in political affairs your ignorance of congressional protocol is quite telling… and time saving.

    Ummm…. ????

    I was replying to….

    Disrespect is disrespect, no matter which side it comes from.

    ….not a treatise on formal Congressional protocol procedures. Trying to portray my answer as an ignorance of Congressional protocol was uncalled for and unsubstantiated (although I admit I'm no expert, are you?) I did not say that Reid's comments violated the Congressional protocol for meetings in the House, (since Reid's comments didn't take place there this is a no-brainer) but rather they were disrespectful to a similar degree.

  15. Leonidas says:

    Republicans cannot justify screaming out LIAR with BS with saying the Democrats booed Bush.

    Republicans cannot justify screaming out LIAR with BS about local ordinances.

    why?

    The republicans Booed before the SCREAM OUT of LIAR.

    Federal Law NEGATES ORDINANCES AND STATE LAW.

    Republicans cannot SPIN this DISRESPECT FOR THE OFFICE OF PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES into some tit for tat 6th grade childish argument!

    MORE THAN AN APOLOGY WITH NO FACE IS REQUIRED! JOE WILSON MUST APOLOGIZE TO THE NATION ON TELEVISION! Our it is meaningless.

    Using all caps for a silly posting does not lend it credibility, it only brings attention to what should be an embarrassing post.

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